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IcePhoenix posted:I brought a sign that said F*** TED FARO to a wrestling PPV does that count 
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I'd seen banner ads for horizon for a while but a week before it released I finally went and watched a trailer for it and grabbed since I didn't have anything else I wanted to play at the time. One of the best snap gaming decisions I've ever made and I'm gonna no-life the gently caress out of forbidden west. Need to make space for the mammoth too though.
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Jan 19, 2022 23:21
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Yeah, I think we'll find that he lived out his life just fine in his bunker alone but fine, dying of natural causes as an old man. It's the most aggravating (for the audience) end for him.
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Jan 19, 2022 23:22
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There's always hope, maybe one of his sexbots murdered him horribly.
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Jan 19, 2022 23:24
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He probably started a sex cult with a few
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Jan 19, 2022 23:59
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IcePhoenix posted:I brought a sign that said F*** TED FARO to a wrestling PPV does that count I’ll allow it. Bonus points if Maffew actually managed a picture of it to display.
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mutata posted:Yeah, I think we'll find that he lived out his life just fine in his bunker alone but fine, dying of natural causes as an old man. It's the most aggravating (for the audience) end for him. Doesn't sound like a great ending. The rest of the Alphas were already going squirrelly being cooped up like they were and with the prospect of spending the rest of their lives that way. Doing it alone would suck.
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I mean... Thebes is still out there, somewhere. So presumably we'll find it at some point (see also: Elysium); but how much Ted Faro plays a role from there remains to be seen.
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Jan 20, 2022 00:18
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God drat, thanks for the plot synopses guys! I'd forgotten a lot of the story but reading them gets me pumped up for Forbidden West! Requesting OP links them in the first post, for future reference
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Jan 20, 2022 00:42
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Yeah great plot reviews. I was going to play the game again but honestly don't think I'll have the time and also don't want to go from 1 to 2 lest I wear it out, so thanks!
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WHY BONER NOW posted:God drat, thanks for the plot synopses guys! I'd forgotten a lot of the story but reading them gets me pumped up for Forbidden West! Requesting OP links them in the first post, for future reference I've added them all to the OP!
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Lobok posted:Doesn't sound like a great ending. The rest of the Alphas were already going squirrelly being cooped up like they were and with the prospect of spending the rest of their lives that way. Doing it alone would suck. "Not a great ending" is the core theme of the Old Ones storylines. Unfairness and tragedy are kind of the point. It contrasts with Aloy fighting for survival and collecting allies and helping to forge relationships among disparate tribes. mutata fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Jan 20, 2022 |
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Lobok posted:Doesn't sound like a great ending. The rest of the Alphas were already going squirrelly being cooped up like they were and with the prospect of spending the rest of their lives that way. Doing it alone would suck. Ted didn't go alone. It's mentioned in exactly 1 datapoint but just before the glitch he joined a cult called "Pantah Antimod" and the cult's leader and some of their most loyal subjects were locked in Thebes with him.
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Jan 20, 2022 01:22
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That's an anagram for... phat damnation
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I love the arc of Frozen Wilds because it’s just so perfectly RPG “May I go through that door?” “No, only the chief of the tribe may go through the door.” *becomes chief of the tribe* “Now may I go through that door?” “…yes.”
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That whole DLC is good. "You may be chief of the tribe but just so you know you ain't poo poo and I think of you as such." - "Glad we had this talk." Snarky Aloy is so good. Jimbot fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jan 20, 2022 |
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I stopped playing the first one partway through because I moved into a new apartment with horrible sun glare. By the time I measured, ordered, and installed blinds I had lost interest. Wondering if I should move on to the sequel and if not, whether I should start over or continue where I left off.
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ultrachrist posted:I stopped playing the first one partway through because I moved into a new apartment with horrible sun glare. By the time I measured, ordered, and installed blinds I had lost interest. Wondering if I should move on to the sequel and if not, whether I should start over or continue where I left off. You have a month. You could start over or continue and you’ll have plenty of time to finish it.
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ultrachrist posted:I stopped playing the first one partway through because I moved into a new apartment with horrible sun glare. By the time I measured, ordered, and installed blinds I had lost interest. Wondering if I should move on to the sequel and if not, whether I should start over or continue where I left off. it's a wonderful game to experience, especially if the sequel is piquing your interest. you could skip the DLC if you're afraid of burnout
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DarklyDreaming posted:Ted didn't go alone. It's mentioned in exactly 1 datapoint but just before the glitch he joined a cult called "Pantah Antimod" and the cult's leader and some of their most loyal subjects were locked in Thebes with him. Oh, interesting. They aren't mentioned anytime else? Not gonna lie, that seems like it raises the probability of more Faro shenanigans in the new game. Sylens also mentioned something about cryogenics, right?
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Jimbot posted:That whole DLC is good. The best part of her character is her steadily ignoring every NPC who tries to hit on her.
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Lobok posted:Oh, interesting. They aren't mentioned anytime else? Not gonna lie, that seems like it raises the probability of more Faro shenanigans in the new game. Sylens also mentioned something about cryogenics, right? Well basically there's a log in the main FAS building that says Ted is shopping around for religions, then when you get to GAIA one of the Alphas mentions that Ted Faro is locked away with "nothing but sex robots and Pantah Antimod weirdoes" Beyond that no, their core tenets or who their founder is goes unmentioned. If I had to guess just from the name, they're against some kind of body modification either genetic or getting tricked out prosthetics, however "Pantah" doesn't mean anything but the vibe I get from it is vaguely Indian. So my guess is they're some kind of wellness scam that lost the thread when robots ate the world
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I do feel like there's no way we avoid finding out something about Ted's final fate, even if it's just him going mad inside his pyramid in a few logs before he died foreve rago, because you need to go there for some special passkey or something. Gameplay wise I'm most excited about a glider. Love using them in games.
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My only Ted Faro wish is for Aloy to show absolutely zero respect to his corpse. Freshly made corpse, super old corpse, I'm not picky.
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exquisite tea posted:My bold prediction: Faro will be dead, no clones, no cryo, no take-backsies. As entertaining as it would be to have him survive 1,000 years only for Elisabet's clone to stab him in the dick, I think he got away with it. My money is on this as well. The Horizon series plays fast and loose with some of its science fiction (in particular, its robots and AIs), but in some other aspects, there are some hard rules set in stone. Namely, no one has survived from the old world, too much time has taken place, there is no way to put together a self-sustaining colony. Similarly, if any humans have origins in Odyssey/Far Zenith they aren't the original members of the board, they aren't old worlders, they too were decanted from creches just Aloy and the ancestors of the new world. But they have access to an alpha version of APOLLO, which lacks development in the social sciences, so indeed they are fully capable of realizing the worst excesses of humanity with full control of all of the old world's weapons of war.
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DarklyDreaming posted:Well basically there's a log in the main FAS building that says Ted is shopping around for religions, then when you get to GAIA one of the Alphas mentions that Ted Faro is locked away with "nothing but sex robots and Pantah Antimod weirdoes" Beyond that no, their core tenets or who their founder is goes unmentioned. My money on this was that they were neo-luddites who blamed the FARO plague on the general state of 2060s technology, and not on Faro himself. Faro would naturally want to surround himself with people who would give him answers that would flatter him. It is for this reason that I've been pushing back (on this forum) against the idea that Faro deleted APOLLO for a reason as crass as wanting to hide his complicity. No, the truth is even stranger. Faro, under the influence of these neo-luddites, genuinely believed that he could save the future generations from repeating the mistakes of the old world, the wars, the environmental destruction. He was absolutely wrong. Humanity has always made war, and without knowledge of the social sciences, are more likely to continue doing so. Humanity has always exploited natural resources without care for sustainability, and without knowledge of HEPHAESTUS's machine's functions, hunters would attack and dismantle them for resources. Maybe a fully functional APOLLO would not have dampened the worst demons of human nature. Maybe there would have been a new series of world wars in the 2600s, fought with railguns and warbots. But whatever the possibilities, Faro deleting APOLLO guaranteed the rise of blood-soaked empires like the Carja Sundom.
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Faro definitely allowed himself to be influenced by the Antimod neo-luddites, but he only actively sought out their approval and reassurance after kickstarting the plague that would doom civilization. It became a reactionary and very convenient justification for his individual actions that led to the downfall of humanity -- "It wasn't my fault, anybody in my position would have done it, the technology's to blame." Whether Faro truly believed his own lies or not is tangential, he was always in process of rationalization for his actions.
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There's this novel, Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky, that is about long-abandoned terraforming projects going haywire (specifically one of them where a race of gene-modded spiders becomes sentient and builds a civilisation, it's cool as hell). Anyway there's this part where a human ship visits one of the failed projects, which overlaps with Horizon in a neat way; it presents one of the scenarios where you'd need Hades to step in, which might be what's happening with that red weed in the new game. Anyway:Tchaikovsky, Adrian. Children of Time. Pan Macmillan UK, 2015 posted:‘As you know, I have been overseeing a survey of the planet that we are currently in orbit around. It seems unarguable now,’ and she was good enough to throw a tiny nod Holsten’s way, ‘that we have arrived at one of a string of terraforming projects that the Old Empire was pursuing immediately before its dissolution. The previous project we saw was complete, and under a quarantine imposed for unknown purposes by an advanced satellite. As we are discovering, work at our current location appears to have been arrested during the terraforming process itself, and the control facility abandoned. I am aware that Engineering has been undertaking the formidable task of investigating that facility, whilst I have been investigating the planet itself to see if it might serve us in any fashion as a home.’
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Kazzah posted:There's this novel, Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky, that is about long-abandoned terraforming projects going haywire (specifically one of them where a race of gene-modded spiders becomes sentient and builds a civilisation, it's cool as hell). Anyway there's this part where a human ship visits one of the failed projects, which overlaps with Horizon in a neat way; it presents one of the scenarios where you'd need Hades to step in, which might be what's happening with that red weed in the new game. Anyway: This was so engrossing. I want to read the whole thing now! Thank you for posting it.
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Oh it's good as hell. There's a sequel, not as good but I'd say it's worth a read too.
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I'm really eager to see what the game does with the DualSense controller. I've been playing Ghost of Tsushima and I love the way archery feels. Combat in Zero Dawn felt so satisfying and I hope they take advantage of the controller to make each piece of equipment feel distinct if they can.
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I think we're going to run into a ted faro clone. Aloy will be tempted to stomp his head in but probably won't because she's a good person. The faro clone will be required to open doors in faro's bunker
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WHY BONER NOW posted:I think we're going to run into a ted faro clone. Aloy will be tempted to stomp his head in but probably won't because she's a good person. The faro clone will be required to open doors in faro's bunker At about 1:30 into the story trailer you can see Aloy and a new companion Alva at a door that looks like the entrance to Thebes. The fact that they conspicuously have not yet mentioned the name of her tribe, that they seem to be familiar with Ted's bunker, and are already equipped with their own Focuses make me think they're connected to Faro somehow.
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Having some kind of Zombie/Robo-Ted would be really disappointing. Faro works as a villain because he's untouchable. He already "won" a thousand years ago, all you can do is pick up the pieces.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI22T1CXwR0
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I'll admit, seeing Lance Reddick be genuinely happy to play Sylens made my day 
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Laughing that the Carrie-Anne Moss character who looks like Tilda Swinton is named Tilda.
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zakharov posted:Laughing that the Carrie-Anne Moss character who looks like Tilda Swinton is named Tilda. Tilda Swinton doesn't even often look like Tilda Swinton
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