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precision
May 7, 2006

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i saw Nealeo has a new one. it's about a super storm because of climate change or something?

is it good?

my thoughts on neal stuff, for reference:

SNOW CRASH: is awesome if you're like 12... gets worse every time i re-read it, though i still would say it's an "okay" book. but man it is super juvenile and stuff like Sushi K has aged really bad (if it was ever funny in the frist pace)

THE DIAMOND DAGE: super good

CRYPTONOMICON: super good

THE BAROQUE CYCLE: my favorite historical fiction novels ever... they are so good

ANATHEM: super good

REAMDE: ehhhhhhhhhh it's Tom Clancy for libertatians lmao

SEVENEVES: it's okay

FALL OR DODGE IN HELL: this is legitimately the worst novel i have ever read

THE RISE AND FALL OF DODO: it was okay... i suspect the better parts were written by the other write tho

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Sid Vicious
Jan 1, 1970



maybe

ChunTheUnavoidable
Sep 27, 2021



I usually donít like him but baroque cycle has me interested, Iíd never heard of it before now

precision
May 7, 2006

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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:

I usually donít like him but baroque cycle has me interested, Iíd never heard of it before now

it is far and away better than his other stuff, and not exactly similar to it either... i mean like it's sort of similar to Cryptonimicon as it is sort of a prequel to that, but it also drops almost ALL of the extreme juvenile stuff he is mostly known for

i mean yes there is a japanese jesuit priest who wields a katana in it... but overall it's very restrained by his standards (though not in the sense of being brief, it's 3,000+ pages over 5 books after all... lmao)

ChunTheUnavoidable
Sep 27, 2021



precision posted:

i mean yes there is a japanese jesuit priest who wields a katana in it...

i am so torn on whether to try these books lmao

Dr.D-O
Jan 3, 2020


I'm going to assume it isn't. He isn't a very good writer and I doubt he's improved significantly since his last novel.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.


Ananthem was so good. I want more poo poo about colleges turning themselves into walled city states and leaving the world to burn.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER


Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Seveneves put me off ever reading his poo poo again.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993




Baron von Eevl posted:

Seveneves put me off ever reading his poo poo again.

I liked it except the whole last part of the book

Nuts and Gum
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49


Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Ananthem was so good. I want more poo poo about colleges turning themselves into walled city states and leaving the world to burn.

Was it the bob dylan of books?

styls trill epic
Dec 28, 2021

by sebmojo


hell, its great

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS

precision posted:


SNOW CRASH: incredibly goony and bad - real neckbeard poo poo the whole way though

THE DIAMOND DAGE: ehhh

CRYPTONOMICON: super good

THE BAROQUE CYCLE: haven't read

ANATHEM: maybe read when i was a teenager and don't remember

REAMDE: haven't read

SEVENEVES: good for the most part and then gets weird/bad at the end

FALL OR DODGE IN HELL: haven't read

THE RISE AND FALL OF DODO: incredibad

hth OP


edit: I think I just don't like Neal Stephenson that much, but his books are referenced everywhere so I always forget and accidentally read them.
Actually the Cryptonomicon audiobook was really good

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die


Nap Ghost

lucky number sleveneyes

Vidmaster
Oct 26, 2002





I just finished Termination Shock a couple weeks ago and it was bad-to-ok. There's a lot of "lol it's the future and we're still wearing facemasks and tracking COVID exposure #topical" which made me groan. The overall premise of rich people using geoengineering to combat global warming in ways that will benefit themselves is neat, and it has some of Stephenson's usual sections where he goes into lots of detail about some obscure topic like Sikh gym etiquette, but the overall story never feels like it has any real stakes to it and I was only really invested in one of the characters.

Plot summary so you can skip reading it: Global warming is bad. A rich man builds a gun that shoots sulfur up into the atmosphere to counteract some effects of global warming. India is mad and sends a Canadian Sikh to shut it down. He hesitates and then dies when one of the other characters shoots the briefcase full of radioactive poo poo that he's carrying. Termination Shock, which is what would potentially happen when people stop loving with geoengineering, is mentioned but is not relevant to the plot at all.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003



i assume the ending of the newest book is absolutely diabolical, op

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Aardvark! posted:

I liked it except the whole last part of the book

That was when it started to get good! And then it just stopped!

precision
May 7, 2006

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yeah SEVENEVES is weird... the first part is good with Tekla and the beginning of the space station, but then it really slows to a crawl with the space porn and then it suddenly is a weird super-future thing...

i guess i can use my audible credit for the month on stephenson and if its bad just refund it... thats what i did with FALL lmao

Play
Apr 25, 2006

So I roll with the rolling thunder
And I howl with the howling wind
And I drift downstream
For as long as it takes
To get up and around the bend


I don't read his books anymore, the reason being that I turned thirteen about twenty years ago

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009



I've only read seveneves from hist post-baroque books and that had me quite excited about his newer stuff, but never got to read anything else so far. The new storm book sounds interesting but guess I'll let someone else read and review it for me first.

Zeluth
May 12, 2001



Reading helps me sleep. I think that was the point of Snow Crash.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all


I was really into him a few years back and adore the Baroque Cycle and Anathem. Reamde was really where I had to reevaluate my tastes but Seveneves was mostly fine. I thought Dodo was really good but I have no desire for more Reamde or his take on climate change.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001

Congratulations on not getting fit on Sunday, dumbass!




Nap Ghost

The first half of Seveneves is an interesting fact-dump on the specifics of orbital mechanics and some of the big complexities of space travel.

However the future space-soldier jacking it after platonically sharing a bed with the main lead, as a cultural norm is extremely weird, even for space science fiction :psyboom:

biznatchio
Mar 31, 2001




Buglord

Count me among the people who liked Seveneves except for the last section.

rotinaj
Sep 4, 2008



Fun Shoe

Been weird and boring so far with a princess also being a secret agent for Finland and infiltrating southern Texas by crashing an airplane into Waco.

His pseudonym airport thriller books are more in line with this than this is with snow crash. Iíve had a really hard time reading much over the pandemic time, and itís not grabbed me.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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I really hated everything with fake Neil DeGrasse Tyson and especially after Actual Murderer Hillary Clinton got on the spaceship until they jumped 5000 years in the future or whatever.

Also wasn't it weird that there were mermaids?

styls trill epic
Dec 28, 2021

by sebmojo


Baron von Eevl posted:

I really hated everything with fake Neil DeGrasse Tyson and especially after Actual Murderer Hillary Clinton got on the spaceship until they jumped 5000 years in the future or whatever.

Also wasn't it weird that there were mermaids?

what op

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.






Itís spoilers for seveneves.

Regarding the second part I didnít take them for mermaids, I took them to look like Maui did in Moana when he got stuck as a dumpy half shark half human so I found it hilarious

Edit: VV you should drop some spoiler tags around that. Seveneves was a perfectly good book that is worth reading that just has 1/3 of another less good book attached at the end.

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jan 20, 2022

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Also one of the main characters is NDT, and another is basically Hillary Clinton, and she shoots a lady to death when she's breaking into the space station.

naem
May 29, 2011



Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Ananthem was so good. I want more poo poo about colleges turning themselves into walled city states and leaving the world to burn.

in the grimdark future, there is only grad school

nut
Jul 30, 2019



Why does he spell his name like meal he can put anything on the book cover just use Neil like a normal person

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS

nut posted:

Why does he spell his name like meal he can put anything on the book cover just use Neil like a normal person

Fair, he should just have a normal name like acclaimed sci fi author Spider Robinson

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all


I've got to wonder what happened in the writing and editing process of Seveneves because even in the first interviews when it was announced it was supposed to be two books.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2007

An A+ Poster (:

I dont know who that is does he write nerd books ?

Shemp the Stooge
Feb 23, 2001


Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Ananthem was so good. I want more poo poo about colleges turning themselves into walled city states and leaving the world to burn.

Yes, it is probably my favorite book he has written. Baroque Cycle is also very strong. The rest are Ok.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009



Nooner posted:

I dont know who that is does he write nerd books ?

yeah

precision
May 7, 2006

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rotinaj posted:

Been weird and boring so far with a princess also being a secret agent for Finland and infiltrating southern Texas by crashing an airplane into Waco.

i love his ability to make stuff like that boring lmao

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all


Nooner posted:

I dont know who that is does he write nerd books ?

He was involved in a successfully funded Kickstarter that featured a pitch video with a cameo from Gabe Newell making a joke about Half-life 3 being on the way shortly and then the product was a late disaster that didn't fulfill any of its promises!

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009


Nooner posted:

I dont know who that is does he write nerd books ?

Write nerd books? Buddy, he pretty much invented the nerd book genre.

Before him, most books were written by nerds, yeah, but few to none were entirely about nerds and for nerds. He's one of the first to really lock that in.

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precision
May 7, 2006

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i dunno i feel like he has transitioned out of "nerd book" into "dad book" territory

FALL is the most "old man writes about stuff he doesn't understand" book i've ever read

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