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Poopernickel posted:is the concept dead, or do the youngs just have a different word now? probably dead. shivering with outrage is the new liking things ironically
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Progressive JPEG posted:thinkpads ideapads
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rotor posted:google did the same thing with closure, and macromedia did the same thing with actionscript, typescript aint special well, compared to those, typescript does have the advantage of not being a lisp while also still existing e: gently caress, closure != clojure. hot take destroyed DaTroof fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Is it? I remember last time I used it, I basically gave it all of 20 minutes before I realized that I couldn't just see references to methods, and I basically just wrote it off completely when I couldn't F12 to a definition. Besides that, managing a project of any scope seems to be nightmare fuel inspired by Python's worst tendencies. Maybe this has been addressed, but goddamn, I felt a lot like I was in Notepad++ and less like I was in an IDE. what language? i suspect either the support for it was immature when you tried it or there was an extension you needed to install (or both)
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Gentle Autist posted:Language support is usually based on installing modules. Python was definitely well supported 2+ years ago, and it would have understood python symbols so you could do intellisesne stuff, but you woulda had to install the module and maybe do some light janitoring to get it all going yeah, that's been my experience. sometimes it takes a little tweaking, but i've gotten vscode to support python, ruby, javascript/typescript, elixir, php, and c although... quote:VS is really nice too, no shade from me there i still use vs on occasion because there's no fuckin way i want to do .net stuff in anything else
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idk, maybe that poo poo'll get better, but my experience has been that lsp and domain-specific intellisense is way more useful than ai-based helpers like copilot or whatever
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seriously, in the few projects where i tried copilot, it made terrible suggestions
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i was in the beta tests and i eventually turned it completely off because it was loving up my day jobs
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Shaggar posted:yeah everything i saw wrt copilot was trash which makes the VS stuff even more surprising. i imagine that using a real language like c# instead of a toy p-lang helps a bunch. c# is thoroughly defined. vs integrates with it absolutely completely. we can fight about how well vscode does the same thing with other languages, on some levels it's p good, but one thing i'll absolutely scream is that copilot tries to use ai to reach that level of understanding with p-langs and fails miserably
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there's something bad to be said about a tool that suggests code that fails to compile, compared to a tool that at the very least knows not to suggest code that fails to compile
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chaosbreather posted:there honestly isn't a business case for writing server software in anything except javascript/typescript. "but doctor," the patient sobbed, "i work for the paas provider!"
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Gentle Autist posted:Progressive JPEG with the good posts rotor posted:Did you know? Progressive JPEG's avatar is actually a gif
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chaosbreather posted:yeah for recruiting it's actually better to do something a bit weird and cool like elixir because you only get people who really know their poo poo and you can probably pay them much less ime experience you'll actually pay them more, but you'll also get people who know their poo poo chaosbreather posted:in the business case it matters a lot. big number going up is a massive difference on paper to slightly less big number plateauing or going down. i can crush someone's dreams into pieces with slightly less big number going down on a google slide stop being weird
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chaosbreather posted:an argument for what? what is it that you think i am arguing? i am saying it is bad how difficult it is to form a business case to use anything other than typescript. hahahahahahaha i actually like typescript, and that statement is hilarious to me
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chaosbreather posted:me too and me too how so the latter? are you saying you can't find jobs that aren't full-stack js/ts? because i guarantee that's a personal problem and not an industry-wide fact
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chaosbreather posted:finding a job? what explain yourself
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after that edit about project owners, yeah, i think i know what you mean but i never disagreed that a lot of failures choose their tech stacks poorly
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chaosbreather posted:more than this – we have to win work, right, with competing proposals. typescript has a ton of factors – all those loving words i wrote – that you can just use to tear any other non-typescript proposal apart, it's like a nuke. you can only fight it with other teams doing it faster or better. this is a weird argument. i guess you mean, if you're making a greenfield app, nothing else but typescript makes sense? eh, never mind. this conversation is weird. you're weird.
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rotor posted:i feel pretty confident i could do the same thing with any other modern language given the same audience but sure ok
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chaosbreather posted:finally, awesome. please give me one that would convince my boss. i feel like i've tried everything. it sounds like the problem is not what the best technology is, but who your boss is
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chaosbreather posted:looks like you've only read about a third of the things i wrote if you're there. i sympathise have you seen some of the blocks of cheddar cheese you've posted in this thread? i guarantee there's more than one that not a single yosposter has read completely
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:today im thankful because my friends and coworkers simp for poo poo that's actually interesting and sometimes useful like scala or go or r. if i had to hear them talk about how javascript or python were actually good, id probably choose to drown myself in the nearest body of water. i'm thankful that my coworkers generally don't bother with these discussions at all and just get poo poo done in whatever tech stack is in front of us (semi-relevant albeit petty addendum: the stack never involves javascript on the server)
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