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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
rust, typescript and kotlin, depending on what kind of hipster you're talkin about

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Poopernickel posted:

hipsters are using these right now:

typescript
angular or react
the ever-moving target that is "modern C++"
I think nodejs still counts as hipster??

angular is like obsolete and node & react are mainstream as gently caress

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

ADINSX posted:

you have no chance to deploy make your time

in AD 2101, jar was beginning

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

ADINSX posted:

that sure is something

still waiting for your entry to catch on in popular use

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=catch%2014

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Gentle Autist posted:

MS briefly had a ‘hey maybe they are good now’ period around the time o365 and windows 10 launched, roughly around that time they also made vscode (a great IDE) and created a language called typescript which is basically javascript with strict type checking. it compiles and deploys to javascript so you can run it in lots of places: it’s very nice to work in

google did the same thing with closure, and macromedia did the same thing with actionscript, typescript aint special

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Lady Radia posted:

wasm still aint quite there. but i am counting the days.

wasm + wasi will replace docker if wasi ever becomes a real thing

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

loving lul

God forbid you want anything to be performant ever for any reason

thats not really the lul imo but theres plenty to go around

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
Did you know? Progressive JPEG's avatar is actually a gif

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
what

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

akadajet posted:

nodejs isn't fundamentally bad, but npm is and kind of sours the whole ecosystem

this is kinda where im at. i have issues with a some of nodejs generally but the absolute insanity of single-line dependencies is completely loving nuts.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
i just use regular javascript idk why people bother with typescript

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
the recruiting argument makes sense out at the tail end where, for instance, hiring a team of perl programmers is like actually really hard.

but js vs java vs python vs whatever? its a nonissue.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

chaosbreather posted:

in the business case it matters a lot. big number going up is a massive difference on paper to slightly less big number plateauing or going down. i can crush someone's dreams into pieces with slightly less big number going down on a google slide

thats super

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

DaTroof posted:

how so the latter? are you saying you can't find jobs that aren't full-stack js/ts? because i guarantee that's a personal problem and not an industry-wide fact

hes saying he can convince people that typescript is more economical by putting a number on a slide and showing it to them

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
which i mean honestly i completely believe that

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

chaosbreather posted:

it's really hard to make a business case for using something other than typescript to project owners

the only time this is true is when the project owners are really invested in using typescript to begin with

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

chaosbreather posted:

more than this – we have to win work, right, with competing proposals. typescript has a ton of factors – all those loving words i wrote – that you can just use to tear any other non-typescript proposal apart, it's like a nuke. you can only fight it with other teams doing it faster or better.

i feel pretty confident i could do the same thing with any other modern language given the same audience but sure ok

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
like the fact that program managers for these "digital transformation" projects are easy marks doesnt really matter to anyone here, but i'm happy you're out there doin what you're doin.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

chaosbreather posted:

finally, awesome. please give me one that would convince my boss. i feel like i've tried everything.

who would i bill this work to?

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Gentle Autist posted:

also lol chaosbreather, forced to use typescript against their will. lmao owned

foreverially typescripted and loving it

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

30.5 Days posted:

Hipsters are doing this now op

https://charm.sh/

gently caress yes

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

rotor posted:

gently caress yes

oh no its all go

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Fortaleza posted:

the neatness levels are still off the charts though

agreed, i love all kinds of curses type interfaces

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

qirex posted:

“we put the sh in IT”


xD

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