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boquiabierta
May 27, 2010

"I will throw my best friend an abortion party if she wants one"


don't think anyone's accusing Nate of being a saint

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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die


Grimey Drawer

Guys, I just don't know about this Nate fellow. Something's off about him if you ask me

someusername
Jan 26, 2015


EL BROMANCE posted:

Just out of curiosity, when was this element supposed to be obvious to the audience? The way the episode summaries are written on Wiki etc mention it in the first episode, but I don't recall seeing anything that obviously pointed to her being trans until they did her flashback episode. Just curious if I missed a piece of dialog or something pointing to it.

Episode 1, At the motel, Cal talks to her about his struggle/being closeted which would make no sense if Jules was cis.

Cal's whole story is American Beauty but better by 200%.

Rue almost getting turnt out was heavy. I've been in and out of NA a couple decades and almost nearly every woman, especially opiate addicts, will tell you that trading sex is part of their story. Men get clean when they run out of poo poo to steal or the criming catches up with them. Women have that one last resource before rock bottom.

Withnail
Feb 11, 2004


Why is Aaron the fuckup ? Dude is a little old to be living at home and likes some weird porn. Pretty minor compared to the rest of the household...

Kevin Bacon
Sep 22, 2010



Withnail posted:

Why is Aaron the fuckup ? Dude is a little old to be living at home and likes some weird porn. Pretty minor compared to the rest of the household...

thats exactly why, cause hes the odd one out

Blood Nightmaster
Sep 6, 2011

“また遊んであげるわ!”


someusername posted:

Rue almost getting turnt out was heavy. I've been in and out of NA a couple decades and almost nearly every woman, especially opiate addicts, will tell you that trading sex is part of their story. Men get clean when they run out of poo poo to steal or the criming catches up with them. Women have that one last resource before rock bottom.

Yeah I didn't even realize Laurie was essentially grooming her into sex trafficking til after that episode ended. The way she was so nonchalant about it/casually shooting her up was terrifying and the pans over to the padlocked basement door are very creepy in retrospect

VagueRant
May 24, 2012


Anonymous Zebra posted:

And the way his mother kept egging him on even as he tried to act like a mature adult was absolutely insane.
Every time she tried to get close to an emotional truth, he lied to her face, and she knew it. Your creepy inhuman son trying and failing to gaslight you and keeping you out of his life isn't what I'd call 'acting like a mature adult'.

Blood Nightmaster posted:

Yeah I didn't even realize Laurie was essentially grooming her into sex trafficking til after that episode ended. The way she was so nonchalant about it/casually shooting her up was terrifying and the pans over to the padlocked basement door are very creepy in retrospect
A part of me wishes the show had completely gone there, as long as they handled it sensitively. I feel like they could address that reality and explore that, but it felt like they just wanted to dip their toe in the themes and wouldn't go that far with Rue/Zendaya. Like an audience would judge trading sex as so much morally repulsive than anything else she's done.

But then maybe it would get too far from what the show actually is, or maybe they didn't feel confident handling it properly.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die


Grimey Drawer

VagueRant posted:

A part of me wishes the show had completely gone there, as long as they handled it sensitively. I feel like they could address that reality and explore that, but it felt like they just wanted to dip their toe in the themes and wouldn't go that far with Rue/Zendaya. Like an audience would judge trading sex as so much morally repulsive than anything else she's done.

But then maybe it would get too far from what the show actually is, or maybe they didn't feel confident handling it properly.

But she wouldn't be "trading sex". She would have been locked in a basement and kept hooked on IV heroin. It would not really be something she was willingly choosing.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012


True, but I still think that would be an interesting topic for a piece of fiction to sympathetically cover. And audiences are hosed up enough to still think less of the character/actress for that.

'Willingly choosing' is also kind of a complicated phrase from an addict's perspective, even without Laurie's injections and padlocks - I mean I'm not expecting glowing sex worker positivity from that particular situation either way.

Equally not sure this show could or should handle something like that. I don't even feel super comfortable posting about it, just felt like the show backed down and shied away from something real. :shrug:

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010



Nap Ghost

I have a feeling the Laurie angle is going to be the focus of the last few episodes because Rue can't just pull 10 grand out of her rear end and they've put a lot of work into making Laurie a subtle, but noticeable menace.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004






What was her actual plan for the suitcase? Just do all the drugs and peace out?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013


banned from Starbucks posted:

What was her actual plan for the suitcase? Just do all the drugs and peace out?

Yeah, pretty much.

LOL that this would have ended with her sister being sold into sex slavery, but addicts gotta addict.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010



Nap Ghost

banned from Starbucks posted:

What was her actual plan for the suitcase? Just do all the drugs and peace out?

Basically. The least realistic thing about her recovery has been Rue not seeming to stress about the debt she owes to a psycho drug dealer.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

This episode is hilarious Im gonna poo poo

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Lexi is a lunatic and that was amazing and Im so worried about Fez :(

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL


Casting that play must have been either super loving easy or incredibly difficult.

Open call for anybody who sorta looks like and has the same body type as Cassie, Kat, Maddie, and uh.... I guess a guy too. Yeah any guy will do nobody cares.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?


I dont know if just any guy will do. Im holding out for a hero.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016


They sure do have fun times in the Euphoria High School Drama Department!

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die


Grimey Drawer

Only Kindness posted:

They sure do have fun times in the Euphoria High School Drama Department!

Lexi seems to have really sold these kids on her vision and gotten a whole lot of buy-in.

I loved her mom's cackling every time her character was on-stage. Haha, my daughter sees me as a drunken joke!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/1495779920030621698?s=21

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007


that was one of the most visually impressive episodes of TV I have seen in a long time. Wow!

VagueRant
May 24, 2012


I was real confused by the random shots of Kat doing her pornhub thing being mixed in with the Cass/Nate stuff but someone explained it as contrasting both girls performing for men, which seems to track.

hybridnoisebloom
Nov 16, 2021



really loved the surreal blurring-the-lines-between-theatre-and-reality stuff in this episode. this is a sentence i didn't expect to say about euphoria, but it reminded me of perfect blue, or at least the disoriented tense feeling i get watching perfect blue. also absolutely popped for the loving cannibal holocaust theme song over the ending, the soundtrack choices this season have been incredible just between that, the inxs stuff with cal, and my absolute favorite sade song "you're not the man" in one of the last few episodes. stoked and terrified for the ending, my spidey sense makes me think they're gonna make something horrible happen to fezco but i'm hoping i'm wrong.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004






I wonder if "here's that dress of mine I saw you wear" is all that clock camera is gonna amount to.

drat I can't believe this is the season finale already. Lots of stuff still left hanging.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die


Grimey Drawer

banned from Starbucks posted:

I wonder if "here's that dress of mine I saw you wear" is all that clock camera is gonna amount to.

drat I can't believe this is the season finale already. Lots of stuff still left hanging.

I'm still pretty sure that lady's grooming Maddy

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?


PostNouveau posted:

I'm still pretty sure that lady's grooming Maddy

Yeah and Maddy not freaking out about the dress means shes being taken in, contrasting with Rues escape.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?


Holy poo poo.

What if theyre the very scary people Rue was warned of?

metavisual
Sep 6, 2007



I had a lot to say, but I think Maddie summed it up:

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005






eschaton posted:

Holy poo poo.

What if theyre the very scary people Rue was warned of?

seems like a setup for a high-class escort thing rather than drug prostitution

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.


Pretty good troll job to have me on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens to Fez and then just have a 6 minute long homoerotic dance sequence.

Please do the right thing Faye, dont let my boy Fez get taken down!

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007


That girl staying with Fez -- does anyone else have a hard time just looking at her? Those massive lips...

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit



Grimey Drawer

blue squares posted:

That girl staying with Fez -- does anyone else have a hard time just looking at her? Those massive lips...

Yeah, those collagen lips bother the gently caress out of me.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.


She is apparently an adult film star, good on her.

Withnail
Feb 11, 2004


lol at everyone being sympathetic to the dead eyed dealer who sells hard drugs to children


edit: ^^^ confirmed. Seeing lip jobs is really depressing

Withnail fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Feb 22, 2022

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die


Grimey Drawer

That lady is perfectly cast

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.


Withnail posted:

lol at everyone being sympathetic to the dead eyed dealer who sells hard drugs to children

Yeah he loving owns

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?


He looks out for Rue though.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012


I truly cannot tell if this is a bad soap opera mess of a show that's occasionally accidentally really good (episode 5 of season 2, the Rue special), and really stylish (rotating hallway shot, dickpick presentation, detective Rue) or if it's a good show with a point and a purpose that's just overly self-indulgent on pacing and musical numbers and Riverdale-level drama and is actually going to pay things off.

TheBizzness posted:

Yeah he loving owns
Every company I've worked for has done some unethical poo poo from paying less than minimum wage (inc. mine) or plagiarising, or literally gambling. I can't take the moral high ground on a dealer who looks out for his cleintele.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004




Grimey Drawer

VagueRant posted:

I truly cannot tell if this is a bad soap opera mess of a show that's occasionally accidentally really good (episode 5 of season 2, the Rue special), and really stylish (rotating hallway shot, dickpick presentation, detective Rue) or if it's a good show with a point and a purpose that's just overly self-indulgent on pacing and musical numbers and Riverdale-level drama and is actually going to pay things off.

Yes.

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


every audience reaction shot was incredible. lexi... the play was such a bad idea.

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