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It's also a point of pride that ours, Polish, came just years after the US (course, it didn't last long). I had that repeated to me a lot when I was growing up.
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Conspiratiorist posted:There's something of a constitution age dick measuring game internationally, mainly because of America. Constitution of Pylyp Orlyk is very old. It also never went into effect, is more than a little anti-semitic, and has some ...interesting... takes on history.
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Feb 16, 2022 00:39
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The worst part is how many crazies import their idea about what is in the constitution from misunderstood American idiots. No buddy, we don't have constitutional right to own weapons and that's good.
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Feb 16, 2022 07:26
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https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-greenlights-brussels-power-to-cut-funds-over-rule-of-law-concerns/ CJEU has ruled that EU funding may be cut over rule-of-law concerns, as expected.
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Feb 16, 2022 10:05
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 How American would you guys say this veggie mix is? In Poland baked potato=USA. And corn. Mokotow fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Feb 16, 2022 15:55
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That looks alright, to be frank. I may be biased since I spent my first year working by making myself dinners from random Hortex bags and sausage.
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Feb 16, 2022 16:06
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Mokotow posted:
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Something feels off about that non-brocolli, but I can't quite place it.
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Feb 16, 2022 16:14
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trick question, Americans don't eat vegetables
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Feb 16, 2022 16:46
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No Ranch; Not American, afaik.
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Feb 16, 2022 16:55
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Maybe it's the opposite of fake veggie burgers, and all of that is made from pink chicken slime?
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Feb 16, 2022 16:56
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According to a quick search, broccoli is the most popular vegetable in the US and I don't think cauliflower is a good replacement at all.
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Feb 16, 2022 16:58
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Mokotow posted:
Potatoes don't belong in a frozen vegetable medley. The cauliflower should also be broccoli but that one I'll let slide.
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Feb 16, 2022 17:31
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I remember those things being one of my main dishes before dark ages of parenthood. Just throw them on a pan, add some fish sticks or maybe bacon and dinner for two was done.
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Feb 16, 2022 17:35
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Mexican Mix is superior, imo.
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Feb 16, 2022 17:59
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Paladinus posted:Mexican Mix is superior, imo. Hortex Italian is nice too.
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Feb 16, 2022 18:01
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Kind of surprised you guys know Hortex 
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Feb 16, 2022 18:01
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It's odd to see cauliflower in place of broccoli. It's even odder to see potato chunks in a frozen vegetable medley. I'd probably buy it if was available at my local supermarket though.
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Feb 16, 2022 18:04
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Mokotow posted:Kind of surprised you guys know Hortex Cheapest frozen vegetable brand here. Our largest supermarket chain is Lithuanian, and that way we get a lot of food imported from Poland. Fun fact, there’s a tiny supermarket chain that styles itself as if for rich people, and they also sell Hortex. For like €2.50/bag.
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Feb 16, 2022 18:08
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szary posted:trick question, Americans don't eat vegetables It's funny because there's an American stereotype that Eastern European countries eat a diet of potatoes, turnips, beets, pork, and pretty much nothing else.
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Feb 16, 2022 18:11
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That’s way too many ingredients, to represent an average meal here.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:That’s way too many ingredients, to represent an average meal here. And not nearly enough bread or cereals. (Grechka!)
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Feb 16, 2022 18:14
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Potatoes in the mixed frozen packs is pure scam, so are carrots Just buy separate packs of brocolli, of cauliflower and green beans for pure value
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Feb 16, 2022 18:17
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I actually ate at a lot of Polish restaurants when I lived in England just to avoid British food. Also Polish specialty stores were the only place I could find sauerkraut on that wretched island.OddObserver posted:And not nearly enough bread or cereals. (Grechka!) Americans assume the Soviets stole all the bread and cereals when they left.
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Feb 16, 2022 18:18
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waydownLo posted:Just saying, maybe there’s not that much inherent virtue in having an old constitution. From last page but reading this I thought about the US and laughed. Xarn posted:The worst part is how many crazies import their idea about what is in the constitution from misunderstood American idiots. No buddy, we don't have constitutional right to own weapons and that's good. This happens all the time in Poland. 'People should have free healthcare' 'So why does private hc work so well in America?'. I heard this very line lots of times. Even from one Slovakian lady living in New York.
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Terminally Bored posted:'People should have free healthcare' 'So why does private hc work so well in America?'. I heard this very line lots of times. Even from one Slovakian lady living in New York.  I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
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Feb 16, 2022 18:20
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Mokotow posted:Kind of surprised you guys know Hortex I'd say in Belarus it's pretty much 50/50 between Russian and Polish brands when it comes to frozen vegetables. Poltino is another brand that comes to mind. OddObserver posted:And not nearly enough bread or cereals. (Grechka!) There's also Hawaiian Mix with rice!
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Feb 16, 2022 18:22
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:
Oh it's very simple, really. I respond with 'So why so few Americans can actually afford it?' and then the other person tells me that poors deserve it because they're lazy or it's only the minorities that can't afford it. I stopped talking about it at all.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:
It comes from seeing news stories about how the super-well-funded clinics for the super-rich do cool things like Surgery on a Grape and then mistakenly thinking that's available to everyone, because America is Paradise You See. Same sources that are always going on about NHS waiting times.
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I remember there's this one brand of cherry leaf herbal tea I used to buy from a Polish food store in Manchester (along with rye bread, Christ almighty do the English not understand the joys of rye bread so it was impossible to find anywhere else) that is probably my favorite tea ever but I can't remember what it was called.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:
US healthcare has some specific benefits, such as the rapid development and availability of new medical tech/methods (primarily to people who can afford it), and physician training, which remains incredibly aggressive and selective compared to a lot of other systems. These are entwined with, but not entirely caused by, the private healthcare system. Looking in from outside, though, or through the lens of experiences abroad, people in other systems can see that US healthcare offers some incredible advantages (again, limited to the people who can afford it), and they can attribute it just to the system not being public (which is itself a simplification). It's true that some of those advantages would be compromised in the transition to the capacity of a full public system, or would require seismic refactoring and reinvestment...which is what should actually happen.
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When the public healthcare fails due to underfunding and paying out of pocket for basic things becomes the norm I get why people might look at worse systems, especially with 5% of paycheck already going into trash (judging by Russia)
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fatherboxx posted:When the public healthcare fails due to underfunding and paying out of pocket for basic things becomes the norm I get why people might look at worse systems, especially with 5% of paycheck already going into trash (judging by Russia) Same in Poland, a broken leg or cancer won't put you in debt for life, but on the other hand waiting times times are so long that you either pay out of pocket or your "super urgent!!" procedure gets scheduled for 2025 and you'll be treated like poo poo at the hospital.
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szary posted:Same in Poland, a broken leg or cancer won't put you in debt for life, but on the other hand waiting times times are so long that you either pay out of pocket or your "super urgent!!" procedure gets scheduled for 2025 and you'll be treated like poo poo at the hospital. The thing about US is that waiting times still suck. Not 2025 kind of suck, but it still takes forever because extra capacity = more expenses = less profit. (Of course a public system would probably get the same result due to inadequate funding).
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Speaking of constitutions, there is/was a fair amount of very tedious drama around the Latvian constitution and continuous attempts by nationalists and conservatives to constitutionally ban legal recognition of same sex unions of any kind. Currently it's based on an article amended in 2006 that defines marriage as strictly heterosexual and a constitutional preamble from 2014 which attempts to codify the weird mismash of beliefs that some folks unironically call dzīvesziņa (life wisdom, but a quick search suggests "historical life experiences and moral convictions" as an academical take on the term). I'm not smart enough to criticise the preamble competently, but it's a fairly transparent attempt to codify the ideas that Latvian and Livonian are the majority cultures (I'd prefer to leave the exact interpretation to smarter people) and that the state ideology should be drawing on an interpretation of Christianity with Latvian characteristics. Encouragingly, a recent petition to demand further constitutional amendments to more explicitlyk reject same-sex unions has been stuck at 20k out of 155k needed signatures for months now and a constitutional court ruling has ordered the legislature to figure out recognition of same-sex unions. Which may actually happen. Edit: I forgot that two prior petitions for recognition of same-sex unions were rejected by the parliamentary committee. So this adds a layer of irony. a podcast for cats fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I remember there's this one brand of cherry leaf herbal tea I used to buy from a Polish food store in Manchester (along with rye bread, Christ almighty do the English not understand the joys of rye bread so it was impossible to find anywhere else) that is probably my favorite tea ever but I can't remember what it was called. Funnily enough, a smarmy Southampton Asda is the only supermarket where I’ve ever seen a factory sandwich with rye bread.
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Mokotow posted:
 Seems reasonably close. Broccoli is definitely preferable to cauliflower. I usually see green beans either by themselves or in a mix like this one though: 
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As a famous German philosopher may have once said: A life without rye bread is possible, but pointless.
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a podcast for cats posted:Speaking of constitutions, there is/was a fair amount of very tedious drama around the Latvian constitution and continuous attempts by nationalists and conservatives to constitutionally ban legal recognition of same sex unions of any kind. Oh you have those fuckers too? I still don't get what makes people so broke brained about same sex marriages.
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Xarn posted:Oh you have those fuckers too? I still don't get what makes people so broke brained about same sex marriages. Yeah, like half of our ruling coalition, with addition support in the opposition. It’s completely incoherent xenophobia, which is why the political support is clustered around populist and right-wing parties, which care about bigot vote. a podcast for cats posted:a constitutional preamble from 2014 which attempts to codify the weird mismash of beliefs that some folks unironically call dzīvesziņa I have Opinions ™️ about the preamble to our constitution. As far as I’m concerned, it’s an overtly xenophobic attempt to politely define Latvia as a nationalist ethnostate, which amusingly forgets that we’re supposed to be a secular country. At least I’ll have my bread and circuses when the civil union law project goes to other ministries and the parliament. Another cool thing out of Latvian law is tikumība. Good loving luck finding a coherent definition (because existence of one is an epistemological impossibility), what is there to say about explaining it to a foreigner (unless there’s idk, the exact same verbiage in Lithuanian constitution or something).
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