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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Hadlock posted:

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraines-security-service-visits-kyiv-independent-ceos-home-says-its-in-unrelated-investigation/


quote:

Ukraine's Security Service visits Kyiv Independent CEO’s home, says it’s in unrelated investigation
October 1, 2025

An employee of Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) visits the residential building where the Kyiv Independent's CEO, Daryna Shevchenko, lives, on Sept. 30, 2025, attempting to gather information about her, according to witnesses.


seems not great

Ukraine government recently tried to roll back corruption laws which is weird, you'd think they'd be pushing a pro freedom agenda in alignment with the eu given their desire to join nato etc and all the assistance they keep asking for (and getting)



They picked the best hilarious/creeper looking photos too, can't attach an image to an existing post sorry not sorry

e: page snipe

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Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Blistex posted:

It doesn't seem smart to bait someone into a war with you when your conventional forces are currently next to depleted and unable to open a second front.

Then again. . .Putin.

A sudden influx of X0,000 violent warcrimers headed to your populated areas in the middle of a collapsing economy no longer propped up by wartime production is an immediate and acute problem for putin.

The slow grind of hybrid warfare with existing conventional and non-conventional capabilities creates a future problem whose resolution can be slow-rolled for years. Maybe even won if you're cool with dying a natural death before the chickens come home to roost.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Hadlock posted:

a pro freedom agenda
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

That Works
Jul 21, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



“I want my two dollars!”

standard.deviant
May 16, 2012

Globally Indigent

Guest2553 posted:

A sudden influx of X0,000 violent warcrimers headed to your populated areas in the middle of a collapsing economy no longer propped up by wartime production is an immediate and acute problem for putin.
I don’t know how accurate the rest of this post is but that number needs another zero

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

x=10

standard.deviant
May 16, 2012

Globally Indigent

Boom, got me!

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

Seems bad

https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3m2heiv5aec24

e: for context, Russia launched a massive air raid last night that was concentrated on Lviv with 700+ drones and cruise missiles.

Nuclear Tourist fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Oct 5, 2025

Giganticon
Mar 9, 2010

Pillbug
There was a time when Russia was a great space power, I guess no longer. I wonder if we will see anyone trying out their anti satellite countermeasures, communication dazzling and the like.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Nuclear Tourist posted:

Seems bad

https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3m2heiv5aec24

e: for context, Russia launched a massive air raid last night that was concentrated on Lviv with 700+ drones and cruise missiles.

Did the satellites do something, like change orbit specifically to make multiple passes there? Or is that just the way their existing orbits happened to fall this morning? Satellites are always over something, and over the course of a day or so, a typical low orbit will pass near pretty much every spot on Earth that's at a latitude lower than their orbital inclination.


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Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




quote:

Satellites from the Yaogan 33 series – Yaogan 33, Yaogan 33-03 and Yaogan 33-04 – were recorded flying over the city of Lviv, making a total of nine passes over the region between 00:00 and approximately 11:30.

Later, at around 06:00, the optical reconnaissance satellite Yaogan 34 entered the region and completed seven orbits over it on 5 October.

Militarnyi notes that Chinese reconnaissance satellites fly over more than just western Ukraine. Overall, more than 60 different Yaogan series satellites, capable of optical, radar and electronic reconnaissance, have orbital parameters enabling them to operate over Ukraine.

These satellites are placed in low Earth orbit at an altitude of about 700 km, enabling them to complete one full revolution around the planet approximately every 90 minutes.

Militarnyi reports that little is known about the true capabilities of the Yaogan 33 satellites. Officially, China claims they are used for scientific experiments, land resource studies and disaster prevention. However, they are believed to be military reconnaissance satellites equipped with synthetic aperture radar (SAR), similar to ICEYE satellites.

The Yaogan 33 satellites, launched in 2022-2023, replaced the first-generation SAR reconnaissance satellite Yaogan-1, which was first deployed in 2006.

"It is not yet known whether these satellites conducted actual reconnaissance during their flyovers of Ukraine," Militarnyi writes.

Quote above is from
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/10/05/8001337/
and
https://militarnyi.com/en/articles/at-least-three-chinese-reconnaissance-satellites-recorded-over-lviv-region-during-russian-strike/
and probably other sources copy and pasting it

Reuters had very little info here https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-provides-intelligence-russia-ukraine-targets-ukrainian-intelligence-says-2025-10-04/

Sat data pulled from https://www.heavens-above.com/


So on one hand it's bad, on the other hand it seems to happen a lot more than that on a routine basis so... doubleplus bad I guess?

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Most people have severely exaggerated notion of amount and kind of maneuvering satellites can do.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Also poo poo, pro-Russian shitheads ala Fico took power in Czechia in the elections just now.

That's a big and ardent supporter of Ukraine turned down a lovely path, not to mention what it means for the wider EU sphere in general.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

OddObserver posted:

Most people have severely exaggerated notion of amount and kind of maneuvering satellites can do.

This. Orbit changes are expensive as gently caress in terms of propellant, so I'm not surprised to see that no, these sats didn't do so.

Might China be providing satellite intel to Russia? Sure, there'd be no technical reason they couldn't. But just the fact that all these spacecraft "have orbital parameters enabling them to operate over Ukraine" is meaningless. It's equally correct to say that they can "operate over" Cape Town, Jakarta, or Walla Walla, Washington.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Utterly Dethpicable

OddObserver posted:

Most people have severely exaggerated notion of amount and kind of maneuvering satellites can do.

What is delta V and what is the rocket equation???

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
Polar orbits, how do they work

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Powered Descent posted:

This. Orbit changes are expensive as gently caress in terms of propellant, so I'm not surprised to see that no, these sats didn't do so.

To clarify, orbit changes are so expensive they effectively are impossible for all but a handful of spacecraft

I think the X-37B has demonstrated in flight orbital adjustment but only by 2-3 degrees

I forget how much fuel is required but basically if you need 1000m/s of Delta v to get in orbit, you need another 500m/s of Delta v to change your orbit (one time) by 30°

It's a lot cheaper to just launch 10 spy satellites in the inclination/timing you need, rather design a satellite that can change it's orbit

Starlink satellites can raise/modify their orbits slightly to get into their assigned orbit, but they're using tiny baby ion thrusters and it takes weeks to do so

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
When you’re in something like a molniya orbit making corrections at apoapsis is “efficient” as far as anything in space mechanics can be.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

OddObserver posted:

Most people have severely exaggerated notion of amount and kind of maneuvering satellites can do.

Satellites can make a large move once

Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS

PurpleXVI posted:

Also poo poo, pro-Russian shitheads ala Fico took power in Czechia in the elections just now.

That's a big and ardent supporter of Ukraine turned down a lovely path, not to mention what it means for the wider EU sphere in general.

The stuff I've seen about him so far has painted him as arguing for reducing Czechia's contributions to Ukraine and divert those resources to domestic issues which, while bad for Ukraine, is not necessarily as bad as also trying to oppose efforts by the entire rest of the EU to help Ukraine.

Are there any sources on him stating support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, or opposition to what the rest of the EU is doing?

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Bronze Fonz posted:

So on one hand it's bad, on the other hand it seems to happen a lot more than that on a routine basis so... doubleplus bad I guess?
Like other posters already explained, the actual content of these articles is "China has a fleet of modern Earth observation satellites". Just like the US, or even the EU. What were you expecting, really?

I guess the bad part here would be "and they're possibly providing some data to the Russians".

DTurtle
Apr 10, 2011


Slashrat posted:

The stuff I've seen about him so far has painted him as arguing for reducing Czechia's contributions to Ukraine and divert those resources to domestic issues which, while bad for Ukraine, is not necessarily as bad as also trying to oppose efforts by the entire rest of the EU to help Ukraine.

Are there any sources on him stating support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, or opposition to what the rest of the EU is doing?
He wants to end the Czech-led program to source artillery munitions from around the world and deliver them to Ukraine.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 13, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Herman Merman posted:

I guess the bad part here would be "and they're possibly providing some data to the Russians".

Beijing Head Aerospace Technology is already subject to sanctions by multiple states for selling satellite imagery to Russian military suppliers.

It's unclear whether this is about the same or a different company or direct state cooperation in intelligence sharing between Russia and China.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Slashrat posted:

Are there any sources on him stating support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, or opposition to what the rest of the EU is doing?

He's not quite Orban-tier but...

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/61471

quote:

Babiš, 71, is campaigning on pledges of welfare and halting military aid to Ukraine.

When he was prime minister from 2017 to 2021, Babiš was critical of some EU policies and is on good terms with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and Slovakia’s Robert Fico, who have maintained ties with Moscow despite its invasion of Ukraine.

From his Wikipedia article:

quote:

In a debate held on 22 January 2023 on Czech Television, Babiš stated that he would refuse to help defend NATO allies (Poland and the Baltic states) in a possible conflict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrej_Babi%C5%A1#Presidential_bid

Also apparently used to be an informer for the Czech version of the Stasi, might have had people kidnapped to prevent them giving evidence in his corruption cases, etc. yeah dude might not explicitly be a horrid fuckup in the exact same way as Orban but he is definitely a titanic rear end in a top hat.

quote:

Babis praised Trump's State of the Union Address and even paraphrased his rhetoric ("Make the Czech Republic great again"). In an interview Trump praised the Czech economy, army, people, and good business relations with the US.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/61495

quote:

Drones hit Russia’s largest explosives plant

During the overnight attack drones also struck the Sverdlov Plant in Dzerzhinsk, Nizhny Novgorod region - one of Russia’s largest explosives manufacturers - sparking a fire.

The facility, located about 900 kilometers from the Ukrainian border, is a key enterprise in Russia’s military-industrial complex.

According to the ASTRA Telegram channel, explosions began around 2:30 a.m. local time, with residents reporting between 25 and 30 blasts within an hour. Bright flashes lit up the sky, and the shockwaves triggered car alarms across the town.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
drat smoking accidents

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
That's just Ukrainian ingenuity right there, extremely efficient. Why bother importing your own explosives when Russia has a domestic supply sitting around waiting for you to use?

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

i was reading a piece of analysis from frontline intelligence highlighting an accelerating rate of russian recruitment of mercenaries from the global south, with an uptick from several hundred positively identified from open source and hacked records in 2024 to low 1000's identified in 2025. there have been several headlines this year about non-russian pows reporting that they thought they were applying for a regular work visa and then ending up being inducted into the russian army on arrival

recruiting soldiers or ex-soldiers like the alleged contingents from cuba, north korea, or veterans of middle east conflicts makes some amount of sense and mirrors ukrainian measures to allow for foreign brigades from georgia, ex-nato, etc. but i'm kind of curious how this could possibly be worth the time and effort to import civilians with no russian to be put on the front line. even as chaff, it can't be that cheap to human traffic migrants who are at best going to hopefully share english as a second language with some russian troops, can it? and even if you consider them solely grist for the mill, the fact that max recruitment is in the low thousands, that's still a drop in the bucket from the attested russian figure of ~30,000 recruits per month in 2025. is there some utility i'm missing here?

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

there have been several headlines this year about non-russian pows reporting that they thought they were applying for a regular work visa and then ending up being inducted into the russian army on arrival

Personally I'm always dubious of these stories. This is exactly what I'd tell my Ukrainian captors to present myself as just a lil' guy who should be treated nicely because I've been so poorly deceived.

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

is there some utility i'm missing here?

I could imagine that individual recruitment officers have quotas they need to make, so while 200 randos from sub-Saharan Africa might be zilch in the greater scale of the war, it's what lets Ivan Recruiterman pass his quota and maybe get a bonus.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB
The problem with mercs is they generally want to get payed and live to spend it. Using them as chaff will spread around I’m sure and mess with recruitment

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010
Assuming there was ever an honest desire to pay them.

If they just delay payment until most of them are dead then they probably can hem and haw about paying out for ages.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
surely mistreating migrant laborers, the people with the fewest rights, will have consequences

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


PurpleXVI posted:

Personally I'm always dubious of these stories. This is exactly what I'd tell my Ukrainian captors to present myself as just a lil' guy who should be treated nicely because I've been so poorly deceived.

considering russia's notorious information suppression, how little training russian forces have had, how frequently russian troops surrender, how many russian troops simply left early on in the conflict, and how many stories have come up of attempted human trafficking operations to kidnap foreign laborers to be deployed on the frontlines, i could absolutely see the likelihood of it. you absolutely do have a point that it's a very convenient excuse, but that's because there are so many things pointing towards it

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

PurpleXVI posted:

Personally I'm always dubious of these stories. This is exactly what I'd tell my Ukrainian captors to present myself as just a lil' guy who should be treated nicely because I've been so poorly deceived.

I could imagine that individual recruitment officers have quotas they need to make, so while 200 randos from sub-Saharan Africa might be zilch in the greater scale of the war, it's what lets Ivan Recruiterman pass his quota and maybe get a bonus.

i do agree that such individual stories are suspect, but you do have recent incidents like the kenyan police breaking up a human trafficking ring where it's alleged that people were being lied to and sent to the front once they got to russia

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxqjqjln1ko

i guess re-reading that article answered some of my questions, because it was reported that they were conducting the usual scummy human trafficking practices of charging upfront finders fees and require deposits for "paperwork" for their services, so the recruiting system might be paying for itself

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Kith posted:

considering russia's notorious information suppression, how little training russian forces have had, how frequently russian troops surrender, how many russian troops simply left early on in the conflict, and how many stories have come up of attempted human trafficking operations to kidnap foreign laborers to be deployed on the frontlines, i could absolutely see the likelihood of it. you absolutely do have a point that it's a very convenient excuse, but that's because there are so many things pointing towards it

if they're actually foreign and not like, active north korean military, would you actually bother to hold them or just deport them to face judgement back home?

idk how you'd figure out which ones didn't join to obtain russian citizenship (i dont suppose you can just call up the russian consul and ask), but if they're going back to wherever else id imagine the likelihood of them going back to join the russian army again is probably pretty low

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3m2zghxj2cc26

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Haven't seen a Russian armored column get hit in a while.

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1976950496574509547

Russia's been trying to rescue a pocket the Ukrainians encircled with armored and mechanized assaults. Doesn't seem to be going too well for them.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Cythereal posted:

Haven't seen a Russian armored column get hit in a while.

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1976950496574509547

Russia's been trying to rescue a pocket the Ukrainians encircled with armored and mechanized assaults. Doesn't seem to be going too well for them.

If the usual loss ratios hold, and they've lost about 50% of their armor, then they've also taken about 10% personnel casualties, which means this was a reinforced battalion-sized attack?

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Cythereal posted:

Haven't seen a Russian armored column get hit in a while.

Russia's been trying to rescue a pocket the Ukrainians encircled with armored and mechanized assaults. Doesn't seem to be going too well for them.

It's almost like they forgot why they don't clump vehicles together anymore. At least when the Ukrainians do an armoured push they do their best to thin out the drone operators in the area and have anti reconnaissance drones ready to blind whatever eyes Russia has in the skies.

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Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 13, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Blistex posted:

It's almost like they forgot why they don't clump vehicles together anymore. At least when the Ukrainians do an armoured push they do their best to thin out the drone operators in the area and have anti reconnaissance drones ready to blind whatever eyes Russia has in the skies.

Preston Stewart's said in his YouTube video on this attack that the Russians were trying to take advantage of rainy weather, which can ground many drone types. It wasn't completely suicidal, but a gamble that ended really badly nevertheless.

Before you go looking for it, be advised that it contains a lot of footage of troops one second away from getting hit by FPV drones.

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