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The German and British banking systems are little more than Russian money laundering fronts at this point, the real estate markets are flooded with that clean cash and virtually every right wing politician of influence in Europe is business partners with someone two steps removed from an oligarch. This is even before you consider what effects sanctions might have in their home countries, which can and will topple governments. No one has an appetite for meaningful, long lasting sanctions.
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McNally posted:Effective immediately, the United States has banned the importation of Russian cars, computers, and pineapples. Is this the joke or foreal? Didn't know the US had any demand for ladas.
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I just do not agree that the borders were in disarray and was a "patchwork of conflicted borders and puppet states." I think Ukraine is a nation and Kyiv is its capitol, and there's no real question at all about where the border lay or whether its a patchwork to be interpreted at will. Russia does not get to annex Crimea and portions of donbas and then have people say "See? No one even knows where the borders are really, I guess. What a patchwork!" That's not a take I agree with. Especially in response to Russia announcing regime change goals. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Defenestrategy posted:Is this the joke or foreal? The sanctions I've seen announced so far are, broadly speaking, banking and high tech, with some kind of generic sanctions against Russian oligarchs. Realistically, US sanctions will only go so far - the US and Russia just aren't major trading partners. Handicapping Russia economically will be primarily a European activity unless China gets on board. Bored As gently caress posted:He's probably gonna try to talk to Xi and somehow convince him to join the west in sanctions. This won't happen immediately, but in the weeks/months to come it may be more likely than a lot of people currently appreciate. One thing China and Xi both want is international political legitimacy - and stepping in to curtail Russia helps them tremendously on that front. That helps them transition from "Sure, you're a wildly wealthy country but you still step on everyone's toes on a daily basis" to "Hey, thanks for helping to prevent WWIII."
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The German and British banking systems are little more than Russian money laundering fronts at this point, the real estate markets are flooded with that clean cash and virtually every right wing politician of influence in Europe is business partners with someone two steps removed from an oligarch. This is even before you consider what effects sanctions might have in their home countries, which can and will topple governments. No one has an appetite for meaningful, long lasting sanctions. I actually agree with all of your assertions, and they're the exact reason I want to see meaningful, long lasting sanctions. Cut the loving rot out, even though it will hurt.
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This is the opening of a thread that gives a general assessment: https://twitter.com/DanLamothe/status/1496881025477226499?s=20&t=_mLzbDtYPywCPp_6XwvyIQ
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As a UK Tankie (Tank Commander) I know little of air C2 but what's stopping NATO feeding ukraine SIGNIT and AWACS information from the polish side?
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This is metal AF https://mobile.twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1496866811110834176?s=21
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The German and British banking systems are little more than Russian money laundering fronts at this point, the real estate markets are flooded with that clean cash and virtually every right wing politician of influence in Europe is business partners with someone two steps removed from an oligarch. This is even before you consider what effects sanctions might have in their home countries, which can and will topple governments. No one has an appetite for meaningful, long lasting sanctions. If this was an intended play by the russians it seems a smart one
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My wife is friends with a lady from Kyiv who is currently fleeing for her life together with her mom with little more than the clothes on their backs. They're heading for the Polish border. We're looking to see if we can paypal them some money once they get there. poo poo is hosed up.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:This is metal AF WE CANNOT ALLOW A BABUSHKA GAP
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https://twitter.com/sichrismannix/status/1496921473025703936?s=21 I know he’s been retired from boxing for a while now and, became heavily involved with Ukrainian politics, but it’s still kind of wild to read this.
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If something positive came out of 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's that the CIA and the Ukrainians they will soon train have some expert experience with IEDs now.
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MonkeyLibFront posted:As a UK Tankie (Tank Commander) I know little of air C2 but what's stopping NATO feeding ukraine SIGNIT and AWACS information from the polish side? Ukraine has limited ability to translate that into kinetic use against Russia right now, so you can't easily tell what help they're getting.
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psydude posted:If something positive came out of 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's that the CIA and the Ukrainians they will soon train have some expert experience with IEDs now. I’m willing to bet that there’s a bunch of small-town Ukrainian machinists who are bewildered but delighted by the nice young men who spoke Ukrainian with an American accent and paid them lots of money after showing them how to use their machines to make large copper discs; same with the fertilizer factory across town who just had their entire supply of ammonium nitrate purchased by the aforementioned nice young men. 
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Still very much unconfirmed, but Ukraine may have taken back the Hostomel Airport from the Russian special force dudes.
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A page late here but all this sounds like maybe a loving 80 year old shouldn't be President 
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Source This has to be a stunning upset the Russians couldn't have seen coming, right?
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The Economist mentioned that the Ukrainians are claiming to have destroyed an entire Russian tank column (15 tanks - that's almost an Armor company's worth, if I'm not mistaken) with Javelins. Raytheon engineers probably patting themselves on the back right now.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Ukraine has limited ability to translate that into kinetic use against Russia right now, so you can't easily tell what help they're getting. Very true but a more passive bonus would be early warning for ground units, air states for troops, positioning of man portable air defence. Just breaks my heart as a service member of the UK seeing scenes of that Ukrainian pilot and ground forces literally fighting for their lives and country.
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Colony dropppppp https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1496954831545810944
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psydude posted:The Economist mentioned that the Ukrainians are claiming to have destroyed an entire Russian tank column (15 tanks - that's almost an Armor company's worth, if I'm not mistaken) with Javelins. Raytheon engineers probably patting themselves on the back right now. A Russian-pattern tank company is 3 platoons of 3 plus one commander's tank, so more than a company.
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CBJSprague24 posted:This has to be a stunning upset the Russians couldn't have seen coming, right? I'd hazard a guess they had gambled on clearing out a corridor for heavy lift to reinforce through before an effective response came and Failed.
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psydude posted:The Economist mentioned that the Ukrainians are claiming to have destroyed an entire Russian tank column (15 tanks - that's almost an Armor company's worth, if I'm not mistaken) with Javelins. Raytheon engineers probably patting themselves on the back right now. Literally this scene but with more modern weaponry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXDemoHHinw
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:I'd hazard a guess they had gambled on clearing out a corridor for heavy lift to reinforce through before an effective response came and Is such a plan even feasible in this pitched theater of war? I know the French did similar actions during Operation Serval but that was against an unorganized militia with a bunch of technicals.
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Fragrag posted:Is such a plan even feasible in this pitched theater of war? I know the French did similar actions during Operation Serval but that was against an unorganized militia with a bunch of technicals. The failure of "they'll welcome us as liberators!" plays out yet again.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:I'd hazard a guess they had gambled on clearing out a corridor for heavy lift to reinforce through before an effective response came and Yep. NYT had an unnamed US defense official saying there were a number of transport planes airborne that were likely destined for the airfield. It looks like the attack from the north is being stymied by bad roads, so this is Russia's main effort. Ukraine probably knows this and is sending everything they've got to ensure it stays contested.
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Fragrag posted:Is such a plan even feasible in this pitched theater of war? I know the French did similar actions during Operation Serval but that was against an unorganized militia with a bunch of technicals. It could be if it's far enough from enemy troops, sudden and undetected, and it's the Soviet vdv operating per standard doctrine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2G4K-5ZvDw It's been a big idea for them for a long time.
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Not to put too much of a damper on our nice new sci-fi war crimes, but this is probably referring to progress module that the ISS uses for station keeping. Which is mostly just busy work for the Russians. There are other ways of doing it that have been used in the past.
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Space Force’s time to shine!
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Heavy fighting in Sumy in eastern Ukraine. This was supposed to be in Russia's control earlier in the day. https://mobile.twitter.com/ua_industrial/status/1496955222299590656
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Wasn't conventional wisdom, before the start of the invasion, that the Javelins wouldn't be that useful? https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1496955582254825478?s=21 Regardless, it appears the javelin is working pretty drat well and useful.
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Taking their war strategy straight out of Goldeneye, I see.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Wasn't conventional wisdom, before the start of the invasion, that the Javelins wouldn't be that useful? If the problem was the anti-Javelin cages the Russians put on their tanks, surely the answer to that is "keep hitting them until they die."
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