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Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
L E T M E
I I N N N

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Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

flerp posted:

hello everyone im excited for a fun game of mafia with friends :)

F O U N D the S C U M .

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
Wordle 261 3/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Lucky guesses today with the letter spread

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
Wordle 262 5/6

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🟩🟨🟩🟩⬜
🟩⬜🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Eh, a win's a win, yeah?

Who's scum?

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
ORGAN

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

drat!

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
S H O C K

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

:monocle:

I wish.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
Is joke phase over? Someone tell a funny joke. Kill it proper so I can get serious.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Maerlyn posted:

Bif what's different from my response and shwinn's?



Oh sorry my mistake, your pro-town strategy is to pick out a lurker (a less informed flip if killed by double docs)? How does that benefit town?

I dont disagree that a lurker is a valid flip at this point, even though that might technically include me.

What is informed about d1 thus far?

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

No why do you assume the docs all have to claim

Seems a bad move, for sure.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

CirclMastr posted:

Because the town has no NK outside of double-doc vidges, which a scum doc can't prevent by doc'ing the targeted scum. Which means a scum doc has no value outside of claiming to be town doc. If they don't do that, then scum team is just two vanilla goons and a roleblocker unless and until only one town doc is left alive, at which point scum doc just fires their power wildly, hoping to align with town doc on a town target for an extra NK.

:thunk:

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Opopanax posted:

##vote sandwolf bad vibes

Hmmm

##vote opop

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

t a s t e posted:

Did I miss where this is an open setup

lol

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Opopanax posted:

You going to elaborate or anything?

I honestly don't have a developed opinion. The vote just seemed awkward to me. I haven't been following this too closely given that it's day 1. I personally haven't felt that any of the pushes are good.

Nep's this is a serious vote on grandi is probably the most awkward thing I've seen in passing, but actually haven't followed up on that. I'll give it a look here in a few.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Nep-Nep posted:

Grandi how would you feel if I told you my joke vote on you was now a real one

in hindsight, maybe Nep is just being nep.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
Wordle 263 4/6

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Hmm, the maer push looks funky to me.

I don't like Grandi or Bif's votes. Working, but deadline is in 5 hours.

##vote Sandicap

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

Yeah before you just seemed hella wrong about everything but that's hardly weird in Mafia

I may have missed it, but what was hella wrong. Did a reread of their posts and nothing popped out.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
The jump to taste is the only strange thing. The pivot from grandi is curious, but I dont think either candidate is a great choice.

Maer seems like this always and not even really scummy imo.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

shwinnebego posted:

i assume she's referring to me scumreading her early on, and then flip-flopping clumsily between a bunch of increasingly bizarre and mutually incompatible positions for hte rest of the day.

but what do i know

Ah, my usual M.O.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
I'll vote to no lunch but nep, sandwolf ping me.

Grandi I'm not convinced but they're a candidate and we basically are out of time

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
##vote maer

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
Dont no lunch

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
##vote bee

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
Wordle 264 5/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Had some trouble today... Will mull over day 1 and get some thoughts up later tonight probably.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

flerp posted:

oh jesus i forgot amalgam was in this game

Sorry, I'm here. I know I'm lurking egregiously. I swear I'll sit down today after work. Before I even leave the office.

I'm just having "a normal one" lately with work and things and have not invested any energy here. I've got some poo poo to wrap up and then I'll let you pick the pearl of my golden, infallible, thoughts.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Nep-Nep posted:

There are secret blasphemers in this game that play numerle, beware their schemes and especially their calculations

This is one of my favorite posts of the game. All of nep's post have been pretty good lol.

Bifauxnen posted:

##vote Maerlyn

Spin plus pearl clutching at the same time

Here we go. Something that actually looks slimy.

Sandicap posted:

Bif's reading of that post mirrors mine. Maer is scum.

##vote Maerlyn

This was/is bad.

Sandicap posted:

Sandwolf trying to defend as a reasonable towny feels bad too.

Weird discrediting of Sand for defending Maer for having a normal opinion.

Opopanax posted:

This seems a bit overwrought

Agreed

Sandwolf posted:

That’s ironic because I don’t think Bif’s action is very scummy either way, but you encouraging the negative read feels bad to me!! We should kiss

hmm

b-minus1 posted:

Grandicap pinging me a bit. That Maerlyn vote seems scummy to me

Agreed

Opopanax posted:

##vote sandwolf bad vibes

hmm, I can see it.

Mr. Humalong posted:

This feels genuine

This doesn't

This stinks.

b-minus1 posted:

If Maerlyn is scum then grandi is definitely scum. That vote has scumbus written all over it

Nah lol.

Bifauxnen posted:

I believe you binus

:goofy:

CirclMastr posted:

Okay let me go over this, more for my own benefit to get it straight in my head and let the thread correct me where I'm wrong.

Four docs (3 town 1 scum, with the assumption that if all docs are openly claiming then the scum one will claim town doc with the other 3) acting in concert can do two vidges N1. Except they can't because scum will block one of the docs to prevent one of the vidges, use their NK to kill another doc, and then there are 3 docs on day 2. They can, at best, coordinate all 3 on one player for one vidge on N2 (all 3 needed to keep the vidge from being prevented by roleblocker). Except the scum doc can just not actually participate in it, roleblocker stops the vidge, scum NK another doc. We start Day 3 with two docs, one scum one town. There have been two lunches and one vidge at this point, but the vidge was on a VT because scum would preferentially roleblock the vidge on scum. So out of 6 other VTs and 2 scum, we're down to the lunches rather than the vidges to try to hit scum. Assuming the worst we have 4 VTs + town doc vs. 2 scum + scum doc, and a 50/50 call on which doc to lunch to hit scum. If we're wrong, we lose.

This is of course assuming that Day 1, the docs actually coordinate to hit scum on one of the vidges. If the roleblocker lets both vidges through, we are down two VTs plus the lunch result. If the Day 2 coordinated vidge is also on town, worst case we've already lost because 2 mislunches + 3 vidges on town + 2 NKs = 7 dead town, leaving 3 town and 3 scum.

Unless I'm wrong here, the scum roleblocker makes Bif's plan a very high-risk one.

A lot of theory and speculation. Not the best look.

Sandwolf posted:

I’d also vote Maerlyn, something feels odd in her tone

I smell the smelly smell of something that smells smelly.

The subsequent spat with opop also leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Maybe about them both, but certainly for wolf.

Continuing.

Also big pings from Bif though.

General hot-takes or stances I don't particularly like.


Don't feel like wall of quoting any more but to sum up day 1 feelings.

High likelihood to be scum:
Bif
Sandwolf

Potentially Scum
Sandicap
Schwinn

Town reads
Nep-nep
bee (in hindsight, bee's opinions seemed to be reasonable to me).

On the fence:
Opop
Hum


No idea:
flerp
circl


I'll do two review and then commit to a vote seeing if my opinions change.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Sandicap posted:

I am taking the Maer mis-execution way harder than I should.
Between being sure of it, then being unsure of it but wanting it to be true so pushing through never showing my doubt.

Like, my feelings make no sense, I've led misexecutions on town before, especially day 1. I've been on the block d1 and swerved the execution to another town target more times than I can count, but this has really sapped my investment.
I'm here, I am reading, but I am in a weird headspace.
I hope to snap out of it eventually, but for at least the short term I will be more snipey and topical than usual. If this puts me on the block, it is what it is, but I thought transparency was the right way to play this.

:eyeroll:

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

:rolleyes:

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
##vote bif

The push on maer, the deflection onto other players for the defense of Maer is weird. All of our reads and takes seem to be in direct opposition. Also seems more concerned with her own "towniness" and player's perceptions of her "town behavior", definitely a weird flex for someone invested in actually finding scum instead of just labeling anyone who didn't agree with you, or found problems with you,as scum.

Bifauxnen posted:

Another thing from looking back though was this. This was how I made the initial Maer case, in a couple short statements.



Just a few posts later, Opop was already saying this:

In this current context it really feels like foreshadowing the narrative early.

But anyway, I blew up at Opop cause I was already annoyed at being called "overwrought" over making one of my shortest and punchiest cases ever. And then after leaving Maerlyn as my focus for literally the entire day, not even shifting around at deadline, Opop said this:

He allegedly thought just my first two posts were already overwrought, and then after I continued that focus literally the whole game day, he thinks I want to downplay it?

And while tbf I was asking the question that Sandwolf instead of directly to Opop, he never clarified his thoughts to answer this:

Instead, when I go to explain my thoughts in much more detail than anyone wants, he just does this dismissive post instead of actually putting any thought into it:

Opop if you are town, maybe don't do this kinda stuff next time? But rn I'm rethinking my assumption that badposting Opop tends to be town.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

Easily? Shwinn I want you to do a little mediation exercise here ok

I want you to choose your eyes and picture a person going about their life and making time to write every single one of my posts as scum. A living, breathing, human being sitting there and trying to find all these words and writing them all up, as scum.

This is bad.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
That said, I can get behind circl pretty easily.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

Well since everyone else is away how about we play Pretend It's D3 while we're waiting

Get a head start on the untangling,mate. Would my town flip actually even give you anything? Who would you go after once I flip town?

If you flipped town I'd vote sandwolf 100%.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Because you're using the "would scum ever do this?" Plea/argument.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

Also I wasn't even talking to you I was talking to Shwinn who'd been posting with me way more moment to moment so butt out jerkwad

:monocle:

Hey! I'll make my opinions known if I want.

I can see where you're coming from, I'm just not convinced is all.

Sandicap is also still a good vote imo.

Would also vote flerp(happy bday) or circl, but my conviction is in bif or sandi

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
##vote circl

Going to visit family and probably wont be around at deadline.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
I'm vanilla, letter M.

My thoughts on the current thread status are as such: Bif and Circl were both scum candidates up for lunch and the frustrated townie bit was probably a pass to keep a lurking scum doctor around in the hope the scum could use the double doc to make up some deaths if one of them were going to go regardless.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

flerp and Sandwolf, folks. Last one could still maybe be Opop but it's way more up in the air really. Could actually be binus on third thought. Now that he's shown up to add nothing after spending all day doing nothing.

Or hell even Grandi, but that feels kinda dodgy to use an excuse like he did if he's scum. Wouldn't seriously judge him for it, just a bit dodgy

##vote Bif



Look at the call outs here.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

Hm ok killing Taste would still be better than killing me though but Christ I don't wanna have to go through another day of this all over again

Another passive comment on someone other than circl after she votes them reluctantly in 2 posts.

Bifauxnen posted:

Welp here's hoping he was just white-knighting me but if he flips town just kill me tonight docs or this day is gonna be a total waste

Bifauxnen posted:

##vote Circl

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Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
##vote bif

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