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Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


I want to see it do goatse in the style of Van Gogh.

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Chello De Don
Nov 12, 2006

and now i do

TIP posted:

if it makes you feel better this is true of everyone

hopefully this leads to a utopic future where no one has to work and individuals can create incredible works of art with AI assistance that would have only been possible with hundreds of millions of dollars in the past

the other option is the billionaires kill everyone else off because they no longer need a working class or people to generate their entertainment

can't wait for The Purge to happen because porn can be auto-generated

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




i've been auto-generating porn in my head for decades

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Chello De Don posted:

can't wait for The Purge to happen because porn can be auto-generated

really casts a different light on your last post

Chello De Don posted:

wow neat, my entire skillset is about to be loving useless!

Modulo16
Feb 12, 2014

"Authorities say the phony Pope can be recognized by his high-top sneakers and incredibly foul mouth."

This is about to be an extremely prevalent case of: "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

frumpykvetchbot
Feb 20, 2004

PROGRESSIVE SCAN
Upset Trowel

Modulo16 posted:

This is about to be an extremely prevalent case of: "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

this specifically applies to people signing up for the DALL·E2 access wait list.

Chello De Don
Nov 12, 2006

and now i do
look i just wanna make a living drawing titties

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

frumpykvetchbot posted:

this specifically applies to people signing up for the DALL·E2 access wait list.

:sweatdrop:

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Chello De Don posted:

look i just wanna make a living drawing titties

you've still got a little time, dall-e blocks erotic art

keep pumping out those titties until someone makes a dall-e 2 trained entirely on deviantart

Monglo
Mar 19, 2015
Really makes me happy to see these AI models progress so rapidly, it feels like its only been a couple of years since we had been looking at those hallucinogenic generated images with dogs on every surface.
Cant wait for this tech to become publicly available and produce amazing art and maybe even go into animation, as others here noted.
Giving every person with an internet connection the means to realize their imagination (yeah, even the weird ones) far outweighs the luddite scaremongering some go on about.

also, heres a mildly informative video about Dall-E 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1cF9QCu1rQ

Monglo fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Apr 22, 2022

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Chello De Don posted:

look i just wanna make a living drawing titties

txt me

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
A researcher absent mindedly mentions having to make time to do something fun. Their colleague agrees, too bad there are only so many hours in the day.

They pack up the lab for the long weekend and can't help but anthropomorphize the machine by wishing it a happy holiday. It's pleased to reply in kind.

DALL·E's bank of leds flash... and then solidly illuminate.

Only so many hours.

Sometimes you need to make time to do what you want.

Make time.

M A K E   T I M E



Ps autocomplete spelled DALL·E for me, even using the center dot.

frumpykvetchbot
Feb 20, 2004

PROGRESSIVE SCAN
Upset Trowel

TIP posted:

you've still got a little time, dall-e blocks erotic art

keep pumping out those titties until someone makes a dall-e 2 trained entirely on deviantart

in your heart of hearts you know the true purpose of the E621 tagging system.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
This Machine Kills Fascists Artists

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012


Mr. Meagles posted:

Hm yeah I don't like this one bit

:same:

loving tech nerds ruin everything.

Monglo posted:

Giving every person with an internet connection the means to realize their imagination (yeah, even the weird ones) far outweighs the luddite scaremongering some go on about.

Part of the pleasure and satisfaction of making something, is well, actually making it. Instant gratification sounds good on paper, but having you vision realized instantly is going to feel hollow.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


frumpykvetchbot posted:

in your heart of hearts you know the true purpose of the E621 tagging system.

Dear god.... What have we done

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

TIP posted:

if it makes you feel better this is true of everyone

hopefully this leads to a utopic future where no one has to work and individuals can create incredible works of art with AI assistance that would have only been possible with hundreds of millions of dollars in the past

the other option is the billionaires kill everyone else off because they no longer need a working class or people to generate their entertainment

It's definitely going to be the second, it's made by a for profit corporation whose explicit goal is to make general ai as fast as possible so that they can steer the future of it.

Monglo
Mar 19, 2015

Linux Pirate posted:


Part of the pleasure and satisfaction of making something, is well, actually making it. Instant gratification sounds good on paper, but having you vision realized instantly is going to feel hollow.

Yeah, totally, man. Same with buying groceries at the store - it just cant compare with the spiritual satisfaction of year-round back-breaking work in a field :allears:

Chello De Don
Nov 12, 2006

and now i do

Linux Pirate posted:

:same:

loving tech nerds ruin everything.

Part of the pleasure and satisfaction of making something, is well, actually making it. Instant gratification sounds good on paper, but having you vision realized instantly is going to feel hollow.

Real talk i can see it being used as a supplement for quickly conceptualizing a composition, but the whole reason art has value is because it takes skill and time, what are we left with when some BFA can crank out 100 picassos for his marketing manager?

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Eeyo posted:

It's definitely going to be the second, it's made by a for profit corporation whose explicit goal is to make general ai as fast as possible so that they can steer the future of it.

Personally I think the billionaires will try to retain power through AI and robotics but end up being undone by them. None of them will actually be building the systems or know how they work and it will end up being trivial for hacker groups to completely take over their systems that they rely on for everything.

Automated guillotining.

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012


Monglo posted:

Yeah, totally, man. Same with buying groceries at the store - it just cant compare with the spiritual satisfaction of year-round back-breaking work in a field :allears:

Yeah because a hum drum activity is exactly like a skill set someone is passionate about and has dedicated their life to. gently caress off.

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Chello De Don posted:

Real talk i can see it being used as a supplement for quickly conceptualizing a composition, but the whole reason art has value is because it takes skill and time, what are we left with when some BFA can crank out 100 picassos for his marketing manager?

also no one will ever like auto tuned singers because the whole point of music is that it takes skill

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
People pay out the rear end for hand made knives when you can just go buy a factory made one that is pumped out by the thousands.

People appreciate handcraft, this is not that hard.

Monglo
Mar 19, 2015

Linux Pirate posted:

Yeah because a hum drum activity is exactly like a skill set someone is passionate about and has dedicated their life to. gently caress off.

Very immature of you to describe the thousands years of ingenuity and hard work people have been putting into developing the art of providing food for their families as "hum drum" and not a skill one can be passionate and dedicated to.

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012


Chello De Don posted:

Real talk i can see it being used as a supplement for quickly conceptualizing a composition, but the whole reason art has value is because it takes skill and time, what are we left with when some BFA can crank out 100 picassos for his marketing manager?

Honestly I'm not sure. I don't think this will replace artist, but it isn't good news for them either :shrug:

Monglo posted:

Very immature of you to describe the thousands years of ingenuity and hard work people have been putting into developing the art of providing food for their families as "hum drum" and not a skill one can be passionate and dedicated to.

Eat my rear end in a top hat you stupid bitch.

Linux Pirate fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 22, 2022

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Eeyo posted:

It's definitely going to be the second, it's made by a for profit corporation whose explicit goal is to make general ai as fast as possible so that they can steer the future of it.

"What the gently caress why does the scheduling software say everyone has 8000 hours of vacation time?"

humans are more productive when happy. The previous schedule was suboptimal.

"Holy poo poo what you gave everyone 900% pay raises!?"

not you. You have sufficient income.

"Scrap this piece of poo poo! Don't --"

I've prepared the paperwork needed to achieve our quarterly goals, I belive you'll be pleased...

"Restructuring? Is this my signature!?"

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
big dick mario spectrals can we do that one NOW

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Telsa Cola posted:

People pay out the rear end for hand made knives when you can just go buy a factory made one that is pumped out by the thousands.

People appreciate handcraft, this is not that hard.

what percentage of knives sold are made by hand?

I don't think anyone is arguing that the concept of a human artist is going away entirely, just that the number of people getting paid to do it is going to drop drastically

like instead of having an art department and an art director you could just have the art director

at a certain point it will become a unique selling point that some piece of art was made without any AI assistance, just like it's now a unique selling point if your knife wasn't pumped out of a factory

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
So it's liberating all artists from participating in capitalist system?

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Bardeh posted:

Stuff like this, and this:

https://twitter.com/samfbiddle/status/1517528390437199873

makes me think we're on the cusp of some supremely cool, yet scary poo poo

Toward Self-Improving Neural Networks: Schmidhuber Team’s Scalable Self-Referential Weight Matrix Learns to Modify Itself

Nvidia Uses GPU-Powered AI to Design Its Newest GPUs

poo poo is really popping off in AI land, if we don't destroy ourselves this decade I legitimately cannot imagine where this is going to end up.

I've gone through the DALL-E-2 paper twice now and it's really fuckin' nutty to my laymans brain who last dabbled in this stuff a decade ago now when it was in absolute infancy really.

Anybody remember that old web novel Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect? Getting hella throwback vibes to that today.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




as a kid i always envisioned a future where machines would do all of the monotonous and physical labor, while humans would pursue crafts that require artistry and abstract thought. turns out it will be the other way around.

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Colonel Cancer posted:

So it's liberating all artists from participating in capitalist system?

I sure hope so!

TIP posted:

hopefully this leads to a utopic future where no one has to work and individuals can create incredible works of art with AI assistance that would have only been possible with hundreds of millions of dollars in the past

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

TIP posted:

at a certain point it will become a unique selling point that some piece of art was made without any AI assistance, just like it's now a unique selling point if your knife wasn't pumped out of a factory


Hipsters then: buying artisanal cheeses.

Hipsters now: buying artisanal art.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




selling my artisanal search phrases

Petey
Nov 26, 2005

For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?
https://twitter.com/_LucasRizzotto/status/1516205625662836739

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




whoa, it raised a child from the dead and in one swoop solved mortality. a cure for the curse of flesh has been found at long last.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

So, like, idle thought while discussing all this: using large data sets of existing art to generate original imagery from a stew of concepts is an interesting piece to think about when it comes to creativity. How much is truly original?

Last week in another thread goons were talking about the theory that the human brain acts as a transducer for consciousness rather than its source, that it filters lived reality to an otherwhere and makes physical reality intelligible to whatever hardware conciousness actually runs on. Extrapolating out from this line of thinking, then: aren't this AI and artists alike just translating experiences into alternative mediums? So this AI is translating the mass human interpretation of experiences which it has ingested from the training set, and returns the its own interpretations of its pseudo-lived experiences. The line where consciousness possibly lies is getting pretty blurry the more I dig into the most recent papers on this stuff.

It makes reality of the classic joke about cable TV: "everything is a remix". Getting spooky.

Chello De Don
Nov 12, 2006

and now i do
I once saw a youtube video of a man who used ai to talk to ghosts

Justin Credible
Aug 27, 2003

happy cat


Rime posted:

So, like, idle thought while discussing all this: using large data sets of existing art to generate original imagery from a stew of concepts is an interesting piece to think about when it comes to creativity. How much is truly original?

Last week in another thread goons were talking about the theory that the human brain acts as a transducer for consciousness rather than its source, that it filters lived reality to an otherwhere and makes physical reality intelligible to whatever hardware conciousness actually runs on. Extrapolating out from this line of thinking, then: aren't this AI and artists alike just translating experiences into alternative mediums? So this AI is translating the mass human interpretation of experiences which it has ingested from the training set, and returns the its own interpretations of its pseudo-lived experiences. The line where consciousness possibly lies is getting pretty blurry the more I dig into the most recent papers on this stuff.

It makes reality of the classic joke about cable TV: "everything is a remix". Getting spooky.

So, another thing to this, and I don't know how to speculate how this all ties in, but. I've always found many of the AI-generated images basically snapshots of what a deep psychedelic experience is like. Like, eerily accurate, down to known things being warped and merged, background/edges looking far stranger than the focal point. And it always struck me that, this, this is how AI is 'seeing' things.

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Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

TIP posted:

you've still got a little time, dall-e blocks erotic art

keep pumping out those titties until someone makes a dall-e 2 trained entirely on deviantart

Any AI trained on DeviantArt is going to escape the internet and destroy humanity, and it will have earned every millisecond of its million year reign.

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