dr_rat posted:

It's best to remember the boring blue aliens represent the investor/capitalist class, the people who pretend to be boring blue aliens represent class traitors, and the marines workers seizing the means of production. Cameron is trying to lie to you by saying change can not happen, he is wrong!

THIS IS TEXT!!!!!

Darko posted:

Visually, it was amazing. I dont even have an issue with the base plot. The action sequences were also directed so much ridiculously better than most of the nonsense we've been getting as tentpoles over the past 10 years.

My main issue, outside of disappearing characters in action sequences, is the repetition of scenes/setups. I dont care if you make an in-joke about it; its still annoying to see things happen over and over again.

In fact, one character does the same thing 4 different times to drive the plot!

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

lol we’re at this stage already huh

mcmagic posted:

Did anyone else have trouble figuring out which of the sons was the one that died?

Renreeja posted:

I went to see it in a theater in Korea morning time, most everybody in the theater was older people, parents watching when their kids are in school. At the end of the movie everybody was wiping tears, wife and me included. Its funny after having a kid myself the "MYY SONNNN!" stuff hits so hard

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

If they don't have a quick time event where a big X appears on the screen and you press it and your character puts an arrow right through the glass into the pilot I'm gonna be a little disappointed.

KVeezy3 posted:

Any opinions on a 10 year old seeing this film without having seen the first one?

Tom Guycot posted:

teagone posted:

https://twitter.com/Mubi_Dick/status/1610674684781285376

teagone posted:

Madkal posted:

Humans have discovered the fountain of youth? You would think this would be a bigger deal than how it is treated as a throw away line in the movie.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Well, on that we certainly agree. The only difference is that you don't see it as a problem.

Chewbaccanator posted:

I walk out halfway through James Cameron's Avatar 2: The Way of Water, shaking my head and wondering out loud:

"How could the Resources Development Administration's HR department allow them to clone one of their crazed contract killers? Surely they are aware of the implications this would have on payroll."

Steve Yun posted:

Just got out of the theater

Movie was corny as hell but I had a good time because so much time and money was thrown at making everything look cool, and Cameron is, for all his faults, still an excellent action director

Enjoying the last few pages of debate about class consciousness

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

It clearly felt like Jake getting chased by the Thanator 2.0 including hiding in roots/bones that the predator tries to break through.

Arglebargle III posted:

I never really thought about this but it seems obvious that the RDA and the military don't have the capacity to transport large numbers of humans from Earth. As the elite class abandons Earth for the colonial project on Pandora, the vast majority of genocide victims will be humans living on an Earth in ecological collapse.

Edie Falco doesn't say as much but reading between the lines the colonial elites have written off most of Earth's population.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

But the Navi manhood ceremony is an explicitly heterosexual marriage ritual:

teagone posted:

Watched this with my mom the other day, and she is never into sci-fi things. She LOVED this though And goddamn, the movie looked beautiful even on a modest 4K set in HDR. Movie still slaps. Feel like I loved it even more this time tbh; watching with family has the effect of making it more enjoyable I think, at least for me. Really hope we get an HFR release.

Horizon Burning posted:

this is actually what sky people believe

Chemtrailologist posted:

This guy is good at everything

https://twitter.com/JedDogKingly/status/1672390620789309441?s=20

Neo Rasa posted:

This movie owned. I thought the three hour run time was absurd before watching but like, I'm not going to act like it flew by but it slowed down at points in the EXACT right ways. Like everything with the outcast whale owned I appreciated the movie not half-assing how all the water related stuff works for the Na'vi. I feel like a lesser movie would have just smash cut to them all having mastered the way of water after the first instance of them loving up once or whatever.


I'm already looking forward to the drama when Jake/etc. learn what Spider was responsible for in Avatar 3 lol


For real though I went in blind and was not expecting the entire whale aspect of the movie at all it ruled.

Movie looks fuckin' awesome too, like I was really impressed at some points.

ThinkTank posted:

It was also an unbearably horny movie and Sigourney Weaver eye loving a teenager young enough to be her grandson even if she was playing a teenaged alien made me very uncomfortable.

henpod posted:

I liked the movie, did exactly what I expected and didn't feel long, even though it was. The only weird thing (i'm sure there are more), is that at the end Jakesully and family are assaulting the big boat with all the water people, and suddenly it's night time and all the other natives completely disappeared, leaving just the Sully family. Even a line of dialogue like 'we must go and protect our shores from other potential attackers' would have made sense, but nope, everyone just straight up disappeared.

quote:

The movie came out just before Christmas. Kenneth Turan, the film critic for the L.A. Times, gave “Titanic” a scathing review. “Just as the hubris of headstrong shipbuilders who insisted that the Titanic was unsinkable led to an unparalleled maritime disaster, so Cameron’s overweening pride has come unnecessarily close to capsizing this project,” he wrote, calling it “a hackneyed, completely derivative copy of old Hollywood romances.” Turan, who continued to write critically of the film even as it became a box-office phenomenon, was besieged with hate mail. One correspondent, a teen-age girl, sent him a letter to which she’d stapled her multiple “Titanic” ticket stubs. In March, Cameron delivered his own rebuttal, which was published in the arts section of the L.A. Times. It was incisive, and maybe more revealing than he knew. “Poor Kenny. He sees himself as the lone voice crying in the wilderness, righteous but not heeded by the blind and dumb ‘great unwashed’ around him. It must be a great burden to be cursed with such clear vision when your misguided flock bray past you, like lemmings, unmindful.” Even now, Cameron resents the media’s treatment of the film. “We were branded as the biggest idiots in movie history,” he told me. “They were just sharpening their knives so they could really take the film apart. Then they couldn’t. So, gently caress them. gently caress ’em all.”

Necrothatcher posted:

I looked up Cameron's full response and it owns:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-mar-28-ca-33428-story.html

quote:

Turan has forgotten, if he ever knew, the role of senior film critic for a large urban newspaper. When people spend their hard-earned money on a movie at the end of a long work week, all they ask is that their local critic steer them toward the good ones and help them avoid the turkeys. It’s not too much to ask. And it’s a fairly simple job, once you grasp it. You get to go to a movie first, before anyone else, and then come back and tell everybody about it. You even get to trash it if you didn’t like it. What you don’t get to do is grind on and on, month after month, after the audience has rendered its verdict in the most resounding of terms, telling everybody why the filmgoers are wrong and you are right.

teagone posted:

Oh shiiiit, it's happening!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cCVYAcIIAo