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Jodi Balfour (Ellen Wilson) has gotten engaged to her A League of Their Own Costar Abbi Jacobson!
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Yeah as someone else noted having her go from astronaut housewife to bar owner to space hotel operator to CEO of a MegaCorp was a bit clunky. Make Molly the CEO of Helios, she has the qualifications and Molly vs Margo is a much better arc. Eh, it's been 25 years. I assume she has also done a bunch of learning in the majority of that time we haven't watched.
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Nihonniboku posted:Jodi Balfour (Ellen Wilson) has gotten engaged to her A League of Their Own Costar Abbi Jacobson! good for her
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Terror Sweat posted:The girl from broad city? Be more specific, there's a whole city of em.
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Grand Fromage posted:The podcast never goes into a ton of detail unfortunately, the production guy just said that capturing the authentic vibe of how lovely 90s TV looked is very hard when you don't have the equipment they used and trying to do it with VFX doesn't look right. A common complaint in filmmaking is that it is very difficult with modern equipment to make TV stuff look old and bad.
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muscles like this! posted:A common complaint in filmmaking is that it is very difficult with modern equipment to make TV stuff look old and bad. I can't believe no one has ever thought to call up Cathode Ray Dude. He has a bunch of SD broadcast quality stuff and he has experience getting the video into modern equipment.
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Aug 8, 2022 04:47
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I just noticed on IMDB that the North Korean Martian is played by C.S. Lee, Vince Masuka from Dexter. If this character is like Vince, he's had plenty of porn to keep him company.
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Aug 8, 2022 13:08
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So did North Korea get to Mars first, or did this dude just randomly show up without anyone noticing? I love the reference to the Soviet's Soyuz capsules... apparently this is still a thing in our timeline.
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Aug 8, 2022 18:49
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There's was a news broadcast referencing that North Korea launched their rocket 1 week before the others. I think it's probable that he landed first but because communications equipment was damaged NK assumed he died on impact and never announced it.
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Aug 8, 2022 19:59
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i cannot believe they have karen loving danny now. that's bonkers.
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roomtone posted:i cannot believe they have karen loving danny now. that's bonkers. It's the worst.
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roomtone posted:i cannot believe they have karen loving danny now. that's bonkers. Official welcome to the thread. 
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roomtone posted:i cannot believe they have karen loving danny now. that's bonkers. Buckle up
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For ALL mankind, that means the creeps too alas
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They're going to have it be that he landed way later because their engine was shittier. He will have just gotten there or something like that. There's no way he survives as long as they have without the room for as much supplies. Book it.
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Whether he was on the surface or in space doesn't matter for the survival time really. The only difference is you could process oxygen out of the atmosphere but lol. Anyway launching a week early doesn't mean anything, it's not like all four craft were traveling the same speed on the same course. I don't know why I'm still thinking about reality in this show though.
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he's actually from the future when north korea takes over the world (2146 in our timeline)
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It turns out that an old soyuz capsule is the only thing that can survive time travel. That's why he landed in that. He is going to use future technology to build the rest of his base.
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I'm still annoyed they skipped over the whole pregnancy reveal and options discussion. It's fine for the plot and for dRaMa to need there to be a Mars baby, but why couldn't we have at least seen some back-and-forth about the pros and cons of that happening, up to and including discussion of ABORTION. You know that Russian doctor was like abort this poo poo now.
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It's so weird to me that they ended on a cliffhanger about the Russians conspiring and then the next episode, nothing. Not as bad as that cliffhanger from Season 2 of The Terror, but still pretty inexplicable.
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Open Source Idiom posted:It's so weird to me that they ended on a cliffhanger about the Russians conspiring and then the next episode, nothing. I was annoyed at that right at that moment because I thought we might have a little humanising scene between the commander and the doctor who have systematically lost everyone under their duty of care, without immediately accelerating into 'We must deliver компромат to Mother Russia'.
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I thought they would come across a North Korean capsule and find a dead body. Total suicide mission so they could say they won the race. Would have been a really interesting wrinkle. Then the added politics of everyone else admitting they were beat to Mars (and whether they tried to hide it). The twist that he is alive and well is incredibly dumb. Not just surviving the landing in an old outdated ship, but somehow staying alive for months. It's enjoyable for what it is but it's now below average SyFy channel writing with a much bigger budget.
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The Phoenix has to have some sort of controlled drop system besides the Popeye lander, since they got the mobile habs and the huge drill down (and didn't they say they had a second drill?). Surely they have enough spare parts to do a small capsule with a parachute or airbags to get vital parts down.
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Vegetable posted:I’m never sold by the actor playing Dev. Maybe it’s also because his character hasn’t been given much depth. But I don’t buy him as a Musk analog, and that whole monologue about his poor upbringing was incredibly didactic and… boring. Now they’ve appeared to write him out and all I can say is, blegh. That went nowhere. He would have been a good character if they didn't wait 9 episodes to give him some depth. The story about his Dad losing his job after the botched launch was a great backstory. That the reason he wanted to do this private is because he had no faith in NASA or government agencies. Million times better than quirky rich tech guy.
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Niwrad posted:I thought they would come across a North Korean capsule and find a dead body. Total suicide mission so they could say they won the race. Would have been a really interesting wrinkle. Then the added politics of everyone else admitting they were beat to Mars (and whether they tried to hide it). I'm not sure how NK could spin this into anything positive. It's going to be looked at as cruel and barbaric. Nobody is going to care about them having the first boot on the ground. The point of the space race from the Soviet perspective was to demonstrate that their society had achieved technological parity or even superiority to the west. The Sputnik shock created credibility and prestige for them in the west. They could have shot someone to the moon in a one-way trip before the US, but it would have been seen as primitive, barbaric and desperate. It's not a win.
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GABA ghoul posted:I'm not sure how NK could spin this into anything positive. It's going to be looked at as cruel and barbaric. Nobody is going to care about them having the first boot on the ground. The point of the space race from the Soviet perspective was to demonstrate that their society had achieved technological parity or even superiority to the west. The Sputnik shock created credibility and prestige for them in the west. They could have shot someone to the moon in a one-way trip before the US, but it would have been seen as primitive, barbaric and desperate. It's not a win. Dev made the point of how many settlers of North America died. Sure they would be condemned now, but for all time they would be remembered as first long after no-one really cared about the details.
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Nihonniboku posted:Jodi Balfour (Ellen Wilson) has gotten engaged to her A League of Their Own Costar Abbi Jacobson! 
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GABA ghoul posted:I'm not sure how NK could spin this into anything positive. It's going to be looked at as cruel and barbaric. Nobody is going to care about them having the first boot on the ground. The point of the space race from the Soviet perspective was to demonstrate that their society had achieved technological parity or even superiority to the west. The Sputnik shock created credibility and prestige for them in the west. They could have shot someone to the moon in a one-way trip before the US, but it would have been seen as primitive, barbaric and desperate. It's not a win. The entire space race bullshit was stupid dick measuring that got like four people killed, no sure why you think the stupidest guy with the biggest dick doesn't win in a dick measuring contest.
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The Soviets pushed their engine into meltdown, leading to NASA astronaut deaths in the rescue, for no reason other than trying to win, and nobody was even mad at them.
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Just started this series and holy hell this is pretty great 5 episodes in. I had no idea about it until recently. Too much good poo poo to watch!
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Philthy posted:Just started this series and holy hell this is pretty great 5 episodes in. I had no idea about it until recently. Too much good poo poo to watch! Enjoy the ride, this is one of the best active tv shows.
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Open Source Idiom posted:It's so weird to me that they ended on a cliffhanger about the Russians conspiring and then the next episode, nothing. I actually quite like they dropped this quietly, because it got dangerously close to "the Soviets are cartoonishly evil". What I like the most about this show is that they never really go into that (outside of the KGB scene early this season). We are told the Soviets are bad, and the show presents them as austere and dicatatorial, but all of their decisions are mostly rational. The entire plot of the second season revolves around an ever escalating scenario on the moon that's not caused by any one party being evil, but misunderstandings and miscommunications in a climate of mutual fear. Having the Russians (presumably via force) terminate Kelly's baby would be a step way too far. There's not really a way to come back from that.
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They never followed up on the "Gordo sees some red lights over at the Russian base" tease from Season 1, did they? Same with rumors that they were digging or building something?
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EvilHawk posted:I actually quite like they dropped this quietly, because it got dangerously close to "the Soviets are cartoonishly evil". What I like the most about this show is that they never really go into that (outside of the KGB scene early this season). We are told the Soviets are bad, and the show presents them as austere and dicatatorial, but all of their decisions are mostly rational. The entire plot of the second season revolves around an ever escalating scenario on the moon that's not caused by any one party being evil, but misunderstandings and miscommunications in a climate of mutual fear. Yeah you could see the other side of the second season 2 as "Americans show up at soviet dig site, kill one person, injure the other, kidnap both and take them to the American base. Then brave soviet soldiers raid the American base to recover abducted soviet citizens." Did the soviet encroach on the American dig site? Sure, but that didn't justify shooting unarmed people.
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EvilHawk posted:Having the Russians (presumably via force) terminate Kelly's baby would be a step way too far. There's not really a way to come back from that. You had a way different read on that scene than I did. I imagine they are going to try and manipulate events so that the baby, and maybe Kelly, go to the Soviet Union when they return to Earth, claiming that since the father was Russian, then the baby should be raised there, and they can claim the first person born on Mars was Soviet. JazzFlight posted:They never followed up on the "Gordo sees some red lights over at the Russian base" tease from Season 1, did they? Same with rumors that they were digging or building something? I feel like in season 2 they suggested that the Soviet base was mostly underground, compared to the American site that was above ground. But no, they never confirmed what the red light was, or what exactly they were digging for. I would have liked to have seen the Russian base at some point, but I imagine they are still purposely limiting a Soviet perspective to keep the mystery going.
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Nihonniboku posted:You had a way different read on that scene than I did. I imagine they are going to try and manipulate events so that the baby, and maybe Kelly, go to the Soviet Union when they return to Earth, claiming that since the father was Russian, then the baby should be raised there, and they can claim the first person born on Mars was Soviet. Unless the two soviets left somehow take control of the Phoenix, they wouldn't be able to dictate where anyone goes.
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