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mystes: May 31, 2006

rotor posted:

can u blame them tho

hbag isn't that bad, op

# ¿ May 24, 2022 21:53

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# ¿ Mar 27, 2023 04:12

mystes: May 31, 2006

hbag posted:

hdad hates python and says it's "not a real programming language" lmao

another box on the "hdad is a goon" checklist

# ¿ May 25, 2022 14:04

mystes: May 31, 2006

They probably should have just made the new unicode behavior something you could opt out of at the file level rather than doing a hard break but I guess they underestimated how amazingly whiny their users are

# ¿ May 25, 2022 14:08

mystes: May 31, 2006

InternetOfTwinks posted:

It takes like 2 minutes to just throw some code up in a repository, come on. Now having said that I fully expect a drive failure to happen to me.

Everyone gets to lose one hard drive, imo

After that if you lose more data it's your own fault

# ¿ May 25, 2022 15:31

mystes: May 31, 2006

Prometheus is what Tesla should have been named, IMO

# ¿ May 25, 2022 16:29

mystes: May 31, 2006

Fortaleza posted:

Now that Garamond's fully settled in I can probably restart work on the miter station in the basement and use power tools without worrying that he's going to flip the gently caress out

I'm going to assume that Garamond is a cat that you stole from Sagebrush or something based on the name

# ¿ May 25, 2022 16:36

mystes: May 31, 2006

SSD's are very reliable until they suddenly stop working and lose all your data with no warning

# ¿ May 25, 2022 17:22

mystes: May 31, 2006

Tayter Swift posted:

wORST_cASE

wURSt-cASe

# ¿ May 25, 2022 20:49

mystes: May 31, 2006

Silver Alicorn posted:

sorry I'm late but someone said pandas??

Yes, get off the tv and get to work transforming that data

# ¿ May 26, 2022 13:07

mystes: May 31, 2006

Meetings are about as much for listening to what other people are saying as internet forums are

# ¿ May 26, 2022 13:39

mystes: May 31, 2006

If your company is somehow not using source control you should find a new job ASAP but in the mean time you should absolutely use git locally at least for your own sanity.

# ¿ May 26, 2022 16:28

mystes: May 31, 2006

Jonny 290 posted:

rippittsburgh

Tori they blaming this on antifa or crt yet?

e: lol at the image opto query params for this

I guess this isn't another bridge collapse but that's still a lot of bridge-related accidents

Achmed Jones posted:

i dont understand what youre trying to say

They're trying to say "google intentionally makes their search results worse so you'll click on the ads instead" which is probably not actually true

# ¿ May 27, 2022 16:43

mystes: May 31, 2006

I guess that's what you get when you combine a desire to eliminate the social safety net with policies that just constantly cause housing to get more expensive.

# ¿ May 27, 2022 20:13

mystes: May 31, 2006

If you're not a psychopath you could just stop until he gets off

# ¿ May 28, 2022 00:27

mystes: May 31, 2006

akadajet posted:

I'd have to assume that the guy filming tried this.

I would definitely not assume this and it also doesn't really matter? If someone's on the hood of your car, you need to stop. Even if they don't get off, that doesn't give you the right to just be like "oh whatever I guess I'll just murder this guy."

I honestly don't understand why I need to explain this but I guess americans are already psychopaths and then they're doubly psycopaths when they get behind the wheel of cars?

mystes fucked around with this message at 01:22 on May 28, 2022

# ¿ May 28, 2022 01:19

mystes: May 31, 2006

KidDynamite posted:

mystes dumb rear end is going to say he should have called the cops next.

No that's still murdering the guy

I'm actually going to say that you should not immediately go into some weird castle doctrine self defense thing and just let the guy get off your car.

# ¿ May 28, 2022 02:12

mystes: May 31, 2006

Is there a gofundme to upgrade it to a permaban?

# ¿ May 28, 2022 16:06

mystes: May 31, 2006

Cat Face Joe posted:

p. sure ait has ten dollars

Yeah but you wouldn't want to send the message that toxic posts using the r-word and telling other people to kill themselves aren't encouraged on SA

# ¿ May 28, 2022 16:12

mystes: May 31, 2006

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

gotta keep the busytown theme

I guess there's always this?

# ¿ May 28, 2022 17:12

mystes: May 31, 2006

RokosCockatrice posted:

lol at "the r-word". I want to go back in time to the ninties and say 'you know how people were afraid of saying the devils name in like 1800's, well that's coming back big time but for everything you call your friends'

Thank you for showing up to voice your support for using slurs

# ¿ May 28, 2022 20:05

mystes: May 31, 2006

fart simpson posted:

look at all those top tier powerlifters. all they do is lift weights and the their fat as hell

You realize that weightlifters have to spend tons of time specifically cutting to reduce their weight right?

It's not like having all that muscle magically makes them have low body fat

# ¿ May 30, 2022 15:15

mystes: May 31, 2006

endlessmonotony posted:

The added muscle increases the amount you burn.

it's extremely negligible though

# ¿ May 30, 2022 15:17

mystes: May 31, 2006

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

bottom right is hbag

Sure if the other three images were fat nerds in their 30s-40s

# ¿ May 30, 2022 15:20

mystes: May 31, 2006

endlessmonotony posted:

It is very significant if you keep maintaining the muscle mass. It adds up.

If you spent all the time for weight lifting to build and maintain the muscle mass on intense cardio you would burn insanely more total calories.

Like I'm not saying lifting weights isn't good it's just that burning extra calories is not really a good a good reason.

It isn't a myth since it's real, but the effect just isn't significant enough to be worth thinking about.

mystes fucked around with this message at 15:25 on May 30, 2022

# ¿ May 30, 2022 15:22

mystes: May 31, 2006

akadajet posted:

no I�m saying you�re a moron and lifting weights will burn calories and help you achieve a calorie deficit without having to starve yourself

This seems to be a fairly common idea, but ignoring the actual number of additional calories people are really going to be burning every day from normal amounts of weight lifting, it really only makes sense if the caloric level at which you "starve yourself" (or feel like you're "starving yourself") is independent of your BMR (including the calories you burn from the muscle), and I don't know if it actually works like that anyway?

Fundamentally if you're a person who tends to eat a caloric surplus, regardless of your activity level, you're probably going to have to eat at a level that leaves you feeling slightly hungry if you want to lose weight.

mystes fucked around with this message at 16:10 on May 30, 2022

# ¿ May 30, 2022 16:08

mystes: May 31, 2006

endlessmonotony posted:

This is incredibly clear. All of akadajet's statements on the subject today are correct.

It's true that you increase your BMR a tiny bit from additional muscle. It's also true that that's not a significant reason for lifting weights because you would burn much more from cardio and you even burn much more (even though it's not as much as cardio) from the actual weightlifting.

I'm not sure there is actual evidence to support the idea that having additional muscle mass helps you maintain a caloric deficit without "starving yourself". First of all, the idea of "starving yourself" is something that is almost always completely misrepresented when normal people talk about dieting, including the idea of "starvation mode" at moderate caloric deficits which is basically 100% fictional.

If by "starving yourself" you're just talking about feeling slightly hungry, appetite is something that is incredibly complicated and affected by various hormones, and it is not necessarily the case that you can continue to eat the same amount and not feel hungry if you increase your caloric expenditure from exercise. The exact relationship between all these factors and how they relate to actionable advice for weight loss is not even really understood by current science.

I guess the reason we are still discussing this in 2022 is that basically everything people say about diet on the internet is just bro science, and even actual nutritional research tends to be dubious and not replicate.

I don't know why I'm even bothering to discuss this since everyone just "knows" that muscle burns tons of calories and isn't going to listen anyway.

mystes fucked around with this message at 17:04 on May 30, 2022

# ¿ May 30, 2022 17:01

mystes: May 31, 2006

endlessmonotony posted:

Is what you're saying here "I don't know much, and neither does anyone else, and that's why I can make authoritative statements about how lifting doesn't really help burn calories"?

An additional pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. Unless you're insanely muscular, this isn't going to be significant.

There are also the actual calories burned from the weight lifting, and a short term increase in metabolic rate for 24-48 hours after weight lifting because the body is repairing the muscles, but when you're comparing weight lifting to cardio these amounts tend to be pretty low.

None of these things changes the fact that there are tons of other reasons to lift weights even if you aren't putting on lots of muscle (which most people aren't going to be doing).

mystes fucked around with this message at 17:13 on May 30, 2022

# ¿ May 30, 2022 17:10

mystes: May 31, 2006

endlessmonotony posted:

Do tell me how large you think the average calorie surplus is.

If you are lifting weights enough to put on pounds of muscle, the increase in BMR is going to be insignificant compared to 1) the calories you burn from weight lifting directly and 2) any increases or decreases in food consumption and/or other activity resulting from weight lifting.

The muscle mass you put on from weight lifting also depends on how much you eat. It is hard to put on significant amounts of muscle mass without eating a caloric surplus and also gaining fat, which is why body builders do cycles where they build mass and then cut.

All together this means the idea that you should just lift weights because the increase in BMR will make you lose fat is extremely overly simplistic.

If you want to lose fat you should reduce how much you're eating and also lift weights to preserve muscle mass but you will not put on a significant amount of muscle at a caloric deficit and therefore not increase your BMR (also, fat also consumes calories, albeit at a lower rate than muscle, so by losing weight you will actually slightly decrease your BMR).

# ¿ May 30, 2022 17:17

mystes: May 31, 2006

Tell them it's a lan party

# ¿ May 30, 2022 17:44

mystes: May 31, 2006

On the subject of health and weight loss, today I baked a cheesecake that contains among other things (including the topping and crust):
5 eggs and 2 egg yolks
4 packs of cream cheese
1.5 sticks butter
1.5 boxes of graham crackers
8 ounces of goat cheese
at least 1 cup of sugar

RokosCockatrice posted:

yeah the things that affect hormones being so effective make me put more weight on the hormonal theory of obesity. eat sugar or carbs, insulin spikes, your body reads insulin in your system as 'time of plenty dont touch the reserves' and you never actually burn fat. in like 30 years we're going to look back on fat america with 20-20 vision and know why the entire nation was obese, but today they're still figuring out how it's not another case of american exceptionalism.

the idea that carbs are responsibility for current obesity levels was already thoroughly debunked decades ago, way before Gary Taubes wrote his lovely book that popularized it

It's pretty clear that people just tend to eat too much given unlimited access to tasty food

bob dobbs is dead is right that drugs that affect appetite are the only reliable means of weight loss but this stuff has gotten way too wrapped up various moralistic ideas and the naturalistic fallacy

mystes fucked around with this message at 17:56 on May 30, 2022

# ¿ May 30, 2022 17:51

mystes: May 31, 2006

hbag posted:

alright i did 1 rep of 12 box squats and either im doing them wrong or they're not that bad

I think the other people in this thread have been talking about squats with weights not bodyweight squats

# ¿ May 30, 2022 17:59

mystes: May 31, 2006

Sucks that tomorrow is Monday

# ¿ Nov 1, 2022 21:28

mystes: May 31, 2006

It's cluedo in the UK, beep

# ¿ Nov 1, 2022 23:30

mystes: May 31, 2006

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

lol a few of my mates are quitting smoking because durries hit AU$45 (~$30) per pack

Jesus and I thought $8 was bad

Imaging paying a whole bluecheck's worth for cigarettes

# ¿ Nov 1, 2022 23:38

mystes: May 31, 2006

Truman Peyote posted:

cjs: 8am meeting to discuss all the meetings we're having and whether we maybe need more meetings

Better schedule a meeting at 4am tomorrow to determine the timetable for the decision about how many additional meetings to have

# ¿ Nov 3, 2022 15:11

mystes: May 31, 2006

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

isn�t that illegal since you didn�t authorise it and now your credit history will be shorter

Violating the constitutional right to a credit history

# ¿ Nov 4, 2022 13:47

mystes: May 31, 2006

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

would corporations really do that? just go out there and break laws with no consequences?

Actually there's only one law and it's "corporations can do whatever they want"

# ¿ Nov 4, 2022 13:56

mystes: May 31, 2006

MrQueasy posted:

Alright, which of you cocksuckers made it so cold that I had to wear a jacket while I smoked my cigar outside?

All the outside thermostats are actually centrally managed, but they're working on increasing the temperature settings by popular demand

# ¿ Nov 5, 2022 01:34

mystes: May 31, 2006

President Beep posted:

no credit cards, no checks, not even cash. i only trade in beef tallow and crushed pop cans.

Get a Bank of American Barter Card with promotional 0% APR grain loans for the first week

# ¿ Nov 5, 2022 12:25

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# ¿ Mar 27, 2023 04:12

mystes: May 31, 2006

You had a bachelors in poli sci and then you got an associates degree?

Did you fake your death and assume a new identity or is it just massively easier to do community college > NYU undergrad > NYU law school or something even if you already have a BA?

mystes fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Nov 6, 2022

# ¿ Nov 6, 2022 03:27

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