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Green Wing posted:Yet to post: Buncasti; Cloacamazing; My Second Re-Reg. Timezones. I was sleeping. Probably should have picked a vampire character. Speaking of, are we supposed to post in character or is that only for the inevitable death scenes?
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Jun 29, 2022 06:33
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My Second Re-Reg posted:I feel like everybody playing this has way more experience in what "forums mafia" is/does than I do. Unless anybody can convince me otherwise, I'm going for whatever vote seems the most chaotic at the last minute. Don't worry, I can tutorialize for you! If you are a law-abiding citizen of this beautiful suburb, you will naturally be confused at to what is going on. Sadly, criminal elements seem to have made their home here and are trying to destroy all that is good and wholesome. We need to root out this evil as soon as possible! Unfortunately, we have no idea who these evil miscreants are, so that is going to be a little bit difficult. As time goes on, we will need to gather our collective wisdom to uncover them and prevent them from taking over our beloved hometown. Some of us might be more helpful than others, but will likely fear to speak up, as this will put them in grave danger. However, remember that even the lowliest Newbie can still do their part to keep our town safe and recover the Pong upper paddle! As of now, we do need to act and vote for a suspicious character as soon as possible, but there is a danger. The criminal elements are better organized than we are. They know who they can trust, we don't. So there is a good chance they will attempt to sway the public vote into descending on an innocent. Stay vigilant! If you are one of those evil scum, I have nothing to say to you. Wait, actually I do: Return the upper paddle at once and renounce your evil ways! Meanwhile, I vehemently refuse to tutorialize for you! Go ask your fellow scum, you probably have a hideout somewhere. A scummy hideout!
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Jun 29, 2022 06:45
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wologar posted:Yes please, everyone should buy avatars so I can be the only Stupid Newbie. I got bad news for you...
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Jun 29, 2022 07:06
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I've played a couple forum mafia games before, so I'm definitely not a newbie. (Please don't execute me for this.) Honestly, the first vote is almost guaranteed to hit a townie, between nobody having any clues and the scum being the only ones able to organize themselves.
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Jun 29, 2022 16:51
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I don't really trust the sudden ganging up on MSSR here. The thread had been going that way for a while, but Green Wing has been pushing for it a bit too hard in my opinion. ##vote Green Wing
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Jun 30, 2022 06:10
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Green Wing posted:Eh, in my post where I voted I listed two other people in suspicious of, and then set out how I'm not sure about HCT. Like, I've been posting a lot, but that's just...sort of what I'm like. (my instinct is to point at this post and say 'hm this is possibly scum trying to distance themselves, maybe MSRR is a townie' but I think this is a post it's impossible to analyse before the flip. That's probably just an "oi, how dare you vote for me" instinct) That's Mafia for you. It could be like you said, or you could be trying to trick some of the less experienced players into ganging up on someone, or you're just trying to move the game along, because as unfair as it is, someone has to be the first on the chopping board.. MSRR could make rookie mistakes, or they could be scum panicking on the first vote. We won't know until it's too late.
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Jun 30, 2022 12:58
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Oof, thanks. Ten posts per game day is kind of a lot for me to be honest. Especially for day 1 where there's really not much to talk about. Going by the stats, almost all of us will get lurker warnings too.
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Jun 30, 2022 14:57
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NeverHelm posted:I'm sure we'll see more I know, just a bit iffy on the two strikes role since I pretty much need to fart out some posts in order to not get my first strike already, and I'm nowhere near the worst off.
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Jun 30, 2022 17:21
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Green Wing posted:Eh, maybe. I'm keen to get my thoughts out before nightfall in case I die at night. We can still talk at night, right? First night is usually when people start yelling at each other over how the first vote turned out.
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Jun 30, 2022 17:22
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Okay, I think this should put me at the requisite 10 posts? Really sorry for the hot air, I can't think of anything else to talk about and it's evening.
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Jun 30, 2022 18:45
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Green Wing posted:OK looking back at day 1: Stop prodding me, it was midnight in my timezone when you posted this and I get cranky if I don't get enough sleep! Green Wing posted:I can't sleep and I'm grumpy about it. Anyway I've decided that actually the idea of doing a "prod vote" is dumb when I could just say I'm prodding somebody so I'm going to [unvote] again. First things first, I am very disappointed that the great witch Beatrice was both town-aligned and killed on the first night. For shame, Beato, for shame. Mason is a role I'm not familiar with, but it seems like an interesting role. Even with the element of not being entirely sure if the other mason is also town, you'd get one other player you can privately talk things out with. The great advantage scum have is that they can do that from the beginning, so this is huge. At least, it is huge when you have, you know, more than one mason. Regarding the "Would Shellception put a scum mason in a newbie game?" question, I would lean to No if it was intentional, but it could just as well have been a random roll for the mason role. In which case, it's more likely that both are town, but not impossible for one of them to be scum. Hyper Crab Tank posted:Right now I'm getting "excited town" vibes from Green Wing, not scum. Yeah she's posting a lot, but I don't think any reasoning has really been outright suspicious. Frankly my head is more at the people who voted but didn't offer a great deal of justification as to why - that feels like scum sliding into the vote late when it looks like town is already leaning a particular direction. I mean we know some of the votes on Re-Reg have to be scum, right? quote:I wonder why scum chose to kill Question Mark though. He wasn't contributing much either, so why kill him? There seems to be more obvious targets. Could be that they want us to target one of the people advocating most closely for Re-Reg, or maybe they're trying to skirt around protective roles which might have had the same thought and were guarding Green Wing or whoever last night.
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Jul 2, 2022 07:30
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Bucnasti posted:RE: Hammering MSRR I'd argue that offing someone who is probably town is a worse outcome for day one. Having the second mason around would have still been more useful for you than otherwise, although how useful depends on the player. Even being in contact with someone you suspect is scum can give you valuable information. But I do agree with Jadecore that you hammering MSRR for the stated reasons seems more like a townie action.
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Jul 2, 2022 17:17
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Jadecore posted:If that was their play, though, wouldn’t that be pretty shortsighted? I mean, from the very start, Green Wing was saying “I’m not sure you’re actually scum but I think that’s a very anti-town attitude” openly. Which is perfectly legitimate reasoning for day 1. And when that turned out to be true and the statistically likely thing happened with MSRR being town, nearly everyone said “yeah, that tracks” and didn’t blame Green Wing as being a ringleader for it. Witch hunts are a thing.
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Jul 2, 2022 17:17
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My current thoughts: Bucnasti: Probably town mason like they claim. Nobody else has come forward to dispute the mason part at least and I think that scum would have at least made a token effort to keep MSRR in the game if they could influence them through the mason chat. Caffeinated Jerkoff: Not much to go on here, aside from voting for MSRR on the first day. Kind of neutral there. They do throw out a lot of suspicion, so if I had to pick, I'd lean scum. cuntman.net: Not much to go on here. Green Wing: Probably townie. She's still throwing out a lot of suspicions (and votes!), but it's always backed with a lot of reasoning, so I'll go with my gut-feeling of excited townie here. Hyper Crab Tank: I think townie, but that might be because they seem to think along the same lines I do as regards to speculating on the scum's motivations. Jadecore: Hard to get a read on, despite them posting a lot. Could go either way. Lupus Ater: Slightly leaning scum there for the insistence we shouldn't think too much about why the scum chose to kill AFancyQuestionMark. NeverHelm: They were one of the people pushing for MSRR on Day 1, but nothing else suspicious comes to mind. Kind of neutral here. Plastic Automaton: I think the Mafia Dad people have mentioned was a joke in the lines of "veteran player here", but he's not really posting anything, only hinting at stuff. Could just means he's bored, could mean scum busy in the mafia chat. Now he just popped in, voted, and left again with the promise of posting in the future. Probably the most suspicious one so far, but him getting a decent amount of votes seems to suggest otherwise? wologar: Reads townish to me, there's some good speculation. I disagree with the idea that the missing player has to have an important role and Plastic Automaton was brought in for that purpose. The game was supposed to have 13 players, even missing a townie would change the balance. I don't really have any good scum reads at this point. Think I'll take advantage of the longer deadline and not vote just yet.
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Jul 4, 2022 06:09
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I've been going back and forth between wologar and Plastic Automaton, and I'm still not entirely sure, but with the most recent posts, my gut feeling is on wologar. End of day is coming, so ##vote wologar .
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Jul 5, 2022 17:17
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Sorry, kind of tired, so I I didn't feel like making a long post, most of what I was thinking had already been said by others and I was getting frustrated that I couldn't think of much to say during this day and will get my first strike. I've slightly recovered now, so here's my reasoning: The problem with this day was that, despite a good start, nothing much has happened in the later parts that could give any clue whatsoever. There have especially been no votes, just people saying who they think might be kind of suspicious, but not putting anything forward (discounting Green Wing, who has at this point voted more than the rest of us combined, but the constant retracting didn't really help). I went through most of the post for my big list at the beginning of the day, and the wologar/Plastic situation stuck out to me. wologar has been fixated on Plastic Automaton being scum literally since the game started. quote:Hello my dear friends! It feels so wonderful to be here with you on my first Mafia game. quote:PlasticAutomaton posted: quote:That said, since Green Wing brought up no execution, I would rather vote PlasticAutomaton. As the only one here with previous game experience, he would be a great asset for the mafia team. And if he's town, we would still have superior numbers. In the beginning it might have been a joke, but it's gone on a bit too long for that. From wologar's later posts on this day, I'm reaching the conclusion that they're scum who believe that Plastic Automaton, due to him being a replacement and because of the hints he's been dropping, has an important town role and are trying to push for that. It seems likely, and it's something I've seen before where a scum player was trying to jokingly get people to vote for a player they thought was dangerous. (edit for grammar stuff, changed "getting to the conclusion" to "reaching the conclusion")
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Jul 5, 2022 19:30
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quote:Do not edit your posts. There is a big reason for that: mafia games rely on reading the other players’ intentions, including those things they didn’t necessarily intend to post in the first time, but slipped through. Usual way to correct mistakes in a post is with a mafia edit: quote your own post, and note the correction underneath, or correct the quote, so everyone knows what you meant to say in the first place.
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Jul 5, 2022 19:36
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Caffeinated Jerkoff posted:wologar isn't double and tripling down, they've retracted their vote and are speculating about what would happen if all of their suspicions were wrong, and what would happen if they and/or Plastic got voted out That kind of makes them more suspicious to me. Wologar was one of the first people to go after Plastic when it looked like he was going to be the next one to be voted out. Now a lot of people have changed their votes (well, mostly Green Wing, since the rest of you people refuse to actually vote), so they're removing their votes.
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Jul 5, 2022 20:08
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Also, is it just me or are some people allergic to pinning down their votes? Jadecore especially, you've been speculating and suspecting people the entire day, but never actually voted. You, Lupus Ater and cuntman.net are the only ones who haven't voted at any point in this day, and I'm not entirely sure those two are even still around.
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Jul 5, 2022 20:09
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Caffeinated Jerkoff posted:That's fair. The accusation was intentionally a little inflammatory, because she voted with minimal reasoning and I wanted to see if I could get her to respond. Seeing her reasoning, I regret making the assertion so aggressively. Her take on the wologar vote is reasonable and something no one had pointed out yet. No worries, I needed that wakeup call.
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Jul 5, 2022 20:10
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Green Wing posted:For real. Those three are starting to give me the vibes, but it's far too late in the day to do anything about it. I'm curious as to whether any of them are around and feel strongly enough about the vote to say anything. Like, 3 is a big block. It's the avatar. You look very trustworthy. (In all seriousness, I'll admit that I'm getting a townie read from you too despite my day 1 suspicions.)
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Jul 5, 2022 20:16
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Aw crap. I was really confident in my reading of wologar at the end. It looks like their secret love affair with the paddle clouded their judgement.Green Wing posted:In fact, I'll now go at far to say - I think the lack of a night kill confirms that Plastic is Town. I mostly agree with that. If Plastic was town, the whole discussion leading up to wologar's vote would have painted a target on his back, because while scum knew wologar wasn't one of their own trying to get rid of a threat, they might have shared the role suspicion. I was expecting either Plastic to get killed at night, or one of the lurkers to give us no information. (In that case, I would have voted for Plastic.)
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Jul 7, 2022 05:29
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LupusAter posted:First of all, I wasn't defending Plastic, just pointing out that trying to divine the scum's motives from a single kill was faulty logic at best, and I still am suspicious of people who keep trying to sell that as a viable avenue. Maerlyn linked this earlier, it's been very helpful for me to keep track of my post count: https://forums.somethingawful.com/misc.php?action=whoposted&threadid=4004626 You're currently sitting at 18, so 17 before this day phase. Looks like you closely missed the cutoff both times. I try to poop out stuff towards the end of the day if I'm close, true to my name.
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Jul 7, 2022 05:33
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You're looking to much at the votes and not at the posts. There was a lot of talk between the vote shift, actually for most of day 2 no votes were cast. I'm starting to think scum is banking on us doing that. It's a lot easier to say "X voted for Y first, that's suspicious", because votefinder neatly lists that information and links to the vote, but a lot of the discussion posts also contain reasoning meant to influence other people. And if you can get enough people to do that, you don't need to make your vote obvious, or vote at all.
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Jul 7, 2022 05:50
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Cloacamazing! posted:You're looking to much at the votes and not at the posts. There was a lot of talk between the vote shift, actually for most of day 2 no votes were cast. mafia edit: too much
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Jul 7, 2022 05:50
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I'm opposed to the idea of kicking LupusAter out at this point. I'm a bit suspicious of most of the lurkers and non-voters because it's hard to get a read on them and might be a sign they're busy posting in their Discord channel, but it's not enough for me to cast an elimination vote here. Add to that, while people are swinging back and forth on the matter, nobody has really spoken up against voting him out, which scum would have an interest in. Of course half the thread has voiced their suspicions about me after yesterday's debacle, so saying that might have the opposite effect now. And since despite all that I haven't even gotten a single vote, I'm beginning to suspect myself here.
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Jul 7, 2022 20:55
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At least this time I'm happy that I was wrong, although it's still weird that I was the only one to specifically not want to vote for LupusAter. To be honest, at this point my only defense for this and wologar is down to "Would scum really be so open about trying to influence people?" Basically, when I cast my vote for wologar, them and Plastic were sitting at two each. The general consensus had turned against wologar, but nobody was voting and it had been like this for a while. I took the first step there and people followed durung the next couple of hours. Since wologar turned up town, the obvious suspicion was always going to fall on me. Same with LupusAter, since he flipped town, I'm the only one to openly speak up about not wanting to vote him out. I see how this could read as a last ditch effort to save him, but on the other hand, my opinion probably holds little sway with most townies at this point and as we saw, it fortunately turned out that I was advocating for the wrong person. My reluctance to vote really did come only from me not liking the idea of kicking someone out for lurker rules. I'm a habitual lurker myself, and as you might be able to glimpse from my posts, I've been paranoid about the lurker rules since the beginning. I'm starting to calm down on that front, the thread statistics are helping, along with the fact that I made it past the threshold on the first two days, but it's a thing for me. I sympathized with a fellow lurker. Logically speaking, I knew that an inactive townie was a bit of a risk, but I was banking on the elimination vote being a wakeup call. Unfortunately, since LupusAter was removed for lurker rules, there's not a lot of stuff to go on. He voted for MSRR on Day 1, nobody on Day 2 and NeverHelm on Day 3. The question is, dig at NeverHelm for voting for him or scum buddies trying to make each other look innocent? Looking through both their posts, the two have been kind of at each other's throats for a while now, so it could go both ways. They were relatively early on all votes, so at the very least, nobody can accuse them of bandwagoning.
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Jul 8, 2022 06:08
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Cloacamazing! posted:At least this time I'm happy that I was wrong, although it's still weird that I was the only one to specifically not want to vote for LupusAter. To be honest, at this point my only defense for this and wologar is down to "Would scum really be so open about trying to influence people?" Oh for crying out loud. LupusAter flipped scum, not town, of course. I need to stop changing my posts a dozen times. Someone give me my edit button.
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Jul 8, 2022 06:09
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PlasticAutomaton posted:I'm starting with the last post in this exchange. This whole argument with Cuntman and CJ felt weird, and I'm still not sure I get the point of it, as it seems to boil down to. "Don't look at the evidence, that's just what scum wants you to do." Which is the most mind-boggling take. I should probably clarify my thought process here. Votes are the easiest evidence to collect, given that we have a nifty bot that collects and regularly lists them. But this makes it very easy to look only at the votes and not the discussion that lead to them. My idea was that scum might post to cast suspicion on someone and influence others to vote, but not vote, in order to make it seem like they didn't help vote a townie out. Basically, I'm not saying "Don't look at the evidence", I'm saying "Look at all the evidence, not just the one handed to you."
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Jul 8, 2022 18:20
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Seems a bit early at two votes, at this point it kind of looks like we won't eliminate anyone.
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Jul 8, 2022 18:28
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NeverHelm posted:Well, I'm not going to waste any time. Cloacamazing has been under suspicion from many of us for good reason, and she seems aligned with both Plastic and Lupus. I especially don't by "lurker sympathy" as a reason not to vote LupusAter, that's just a smokescreen for "scumbuddy". Considering how Plastic tried to cover for her earlier, there's no longer any doubt in my mind that she's scum. ##vote Cloacamazing! Yeah I kind of figured that was going to happen as soon as as Plastic flipped scum. Hell, I would be suspicious of myself if I didn't know I was town. At this point the only chance I have is if a detective role investigated me.
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Jul 9, 2022 15:41
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From my perspective, Plastic pretty obviously intended to throw me under the bus with the whole claiming I was likely town before flipping scum. LupusAter threw out a vote on NeverHelm before he got eliminated, which struck me as suspicious yesterday. Why vote for someone when you're scum and you know you'll be eliminated soon? It seems to me like a plan to use their flip to make a scum ally seem like town. So that's what I'm going with: ##vote [NeverHelm]
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Jul 9, 2022 15:47
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I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that. I was against eliminating LupusAter, because I've been having trouble with getting the required post count too. At the point where i said that, I didn't know if he was scum or town. Now I know he was scum, I'm looking at that throwaway vote he did and find it suspicious. Chill out, it's not like anybody is going to follow my lead on that vote anyway.
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Jul 9, 2022 17:43
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Great game, everyone! I was on the edge of my set for the final day!
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Jadecore, you did awesome. It really looked like you might be able to pull it off.
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