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Welcome to the new USCE thread for 2022. This is a quick reminder that USCE is for discussing of current events and news about the United States in the year of our LORD 2022. If anyone has some interesting articles they wish to talk about, post it here! And please add some of your own commentary to it first. This isn't supposed to be a place to just dump bad tweets. There are plenty of other places to do that on SA, or if you just like reading those, do it on Twitter with the weirdos. Another reminder, this isn't a place to make broad, sweeping ideological statements without providing new content in ways to discuss them. This would be probated under the D&D rule 2.C: "Fresh or Falsifiable." Here is just a quick update on your regularly scheduled horrible news coming from the United States in the past week. The Texas Republican Party has released their new platform, and it is purestrain crazy. quote:LGBTQ Americans Joe Biden fell off his bike. He appeared mostly fine afterward. Eric Greitens, former Gov. of Missouri who resigned in disgrace 3 years ago, is running for Senate, and has a new campaign video that says to kill all RINOS. Twitter and Facebook took the video down. quote:“Join the MAGA crew,” Greitens tells the camera, referring to Republican former President Donald Trump’s slogan, Make America Great Again. “Get a RINO hunting permit. There’s no bagging limit, no tagging limit and it doesn’t expire until we save our country.” Happy posting! Somebody fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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picking up on a recent post in the old threadMr Hootington posted:I would like to draw some of your attention to what Larry Summers said after meeting with Joe biden. i've seen a fair number of pundits lay the current conditions on the fed for choosing to emphasize the unemployment portion of their mandate a few years back, and for easy money policies in response to the '08 and '20 crises. there had been a movement by progressive economists in the wake of the drawn-out recovery and wage stagnation following '08 calling for more intervention on behalf of the unemployed and low wage earners, and i have a feeling that's going to be smothered for another generation
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Jun 21, 2022 01:15
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The White House is releasing a broad LGBTQI+ EO tomorrow, the text is here: https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...sex-individuals Lots of actions are involved, but relatively few can have direct impact since the problems are occurring at the state level. Highlights include instructing HHS to expand programs to explicitly cover LGBTQI in several areas with related reporting, and a multiprong attack on the funding and permissibility of conversion therapy.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:25
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The FDA is also extending the comment period for its proposed rule that will render flavored cigars and all menthol-flavored cigarettes illegal. Proposed rule for flavored cigars: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/05/04/2022-08993/tobacco-product-standard-for-characterizing-flavors-in-cigars Comment docket: https://www.regulations.gov/document/FDA-2021-N-1309-0001/comment Proposed rule for mentholated cigarettes: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/05/04/2022-08994/tobacco-product-standard-for-menthol-in-cigarettes Comment docket: https://www.regulations.gov/document/FDA-2021-N-1349-0001/comment There are about 140k comments on these so far, so there's clearly botting and form comment campaigns going on. What I'm finding unusual is how many comments appear handmade, including from both the pro and anti sides. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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Jun 21, 2022 01:32
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:picking up on a recent post in the old thread Larry Summers, in particular, has been lusting for the poor to suffer at least since he was consulted on student loan forgiveness, where he said he was against it because it would lead to loan-havers having too much money to spend.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:34
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Discendo Vox posted:Comment docket: I did not realize that these were online, and i am getting bigtime "Pawnee citizens at Town Hall" vibes e: also, randomly clicking, i've already found four "i am a tobacco retailer that is strongly opposed to this ban Craig K fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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Jun 21, 2022 01:39
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On account of my mental health and/or blood pressure, can I just ignore whatever poo poo's spewed out of Texas for the rest of the year? I have a feeling this will bite Texan Chuds later.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:44
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MickeyFinn posted:Larry Summers, in particular, has been lusting for the poor to suffer at least since he was consulted on student loan forgiveness, where he said he was against it because it would lead to loan-havers having too much money to spend. yeah, he was also vocally opposed to additional stimulus in late 2020/ early 2021 for the same reason. it seemed that the white house didn't pay him much mind at the time, but who knows what sort of cachet has now been attached to this line of thought by "serious" policy folks there seems to be a tendency to set aside the continuing supply shocks we've been seeing for the last year to focus on the anemic increase in wage growth following decades of stagnation. i guess it goes to show that technocratic paths to relief for those in need are a thin branch to hang your hopes on, it takes years to build a narrative and get people into place to implement policy, and then it can all gets swept away in less than a year
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Jun 21, 2022 01:45
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Grouchio posted:On account of my mental health and/or blood pressure, can I just ignore whatever poo poo's spewed out of Texas for the rest of the year? I have a feeling this will bite Texan Chuds later. Lol “Surely, this’ll alienate the moderate Republicans!”
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Jun 21, 2022 01:46
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Remember everyone to make time for self care and relaxation, too much politics is not good for your health.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:50
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Grouchio posted:On account of my mental health and/or blood pressure, can I just ignore whatever poo poo's spewed out of Texas for the rest of the year? I have a feeling this will bite Texan Chuds later. yes, you have permission to not bury yourself in anxiety spirals over all the bad poo poo: AtomikKrab posted:Remember everyone to make time for self care and relaxation, too much politics is not good for your health.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:51
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Craig K posted:I did not realize that these were online, and i am getting bigtime "Pawnee citizens at Town Hall" vibes Not only are they generally public, the agency has to respond to all substantive comments. Regulations.gov is a treasuretrove. Similarly, for those interested in federal activity, the federal register is an excellent resource of what new regulations most agencies are implementing on a day to day basis.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:54
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Craig K posted:I did not realize that these were online, and i am getting bigtime "Pawnee citizens at Town Hall" vibes big yikes, also lmao: quote:do not take another choice of Americans away, many people of all colors races chose menthol, people have free will, they know the risks, if you ban menthol cigs, you have to ban all cigs........leave us alone ,let us make our own choices, decisions, stop using race to push this threw, class actions suits to follow of course for the gov violating our freedoms , stop regulating our choices, your not my mamma or daddy, and no i am not black, it affects all races free choices Was the first one I clicked.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:56
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Discendo Vox posted:Not only are they generally public, the agency has to respond to all substantive comments. Regulations.gov is a treasuretrove. This is what leads to things like the US government officially stating that nuking hurricanes would be a "bad idea", isn't it. I feel bad for the folks who have to write that stuff.
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Jun 21, 2022 01:59
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Fritz the Horse posted:yes, you have permission to not bury yourself in anxiety spirals over all the bad poo poo:
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Jun 21, 2022 02:01
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Discendo Vox posted:The FDA is also extending the comment period for its proposed rule that will render flavored cigars and all menthol-flavored cigarettes illegal. I don't smoke, but I used to enter a lot of online contests and stuff and the tobacco sites all gave away awesome crap - as such I have been getting tons of email from all of them urging to go make your voices heard against the menthol/flavored ban.
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Jun 21, 2022 02:02
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Actually do pay attention to the news. Maybe a decade ago you were overworking yourself into a tizzy over not much when it was just Obama getting cucked nonstop but now the fascism is real and it’s happening. Republicans had three decades of literal fear mongering broadcasted into their brains, and it seemed to work out well for them. And unlike them, we actually have real things to worry about! We don’t have to monger our fears! Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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Jun 21, 2022 02:02
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To lighten the mood, I was reading one of the bad threads and I ran across this extremely darkly funny excerpt from Yesterday's Man: Joe Biden had never once passed up a chance to have his wallet inspected, has he
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Jun 21, 2022 02:09
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:picking up on a recent post in the old thread GhostofJohnMuir posted:yeah, he was also vocally opposed to additional stimulus in late 2020/ early 2021 for the same reason. it seemed that the white house didn't pay him much mind at the time, but who knows what sort of cachet has now been attached to this line of thought by "serious" policy folks Is there an official D&D Econ thread to dive deeper on this? "The Economist posted:People’s inflation expectations are rising—and will be hard to bring down
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Jun 21, 2022 02:27
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Can someone good at math explain what federal fiscal budgets have to do with consumer price inflation.
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Jun 21, 2022 02:32
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The current economic situation has nothing to do with central banks and everything to do with supply shocks/supply chain breakdown, and greed. We're still dealing with the effects of supply chain fuckery dating back to 2020, and it's being compounded by things like China doing periodic lockdowns and the Ukraine War. It's raising the cost of everything, and the Fed raising interest rates is going to just make this worse and probably cause a recession, since the causes of inflation are almost entirely out of the hands of the Fed's reach. I am very nervous about the Fed causing a stagflation spiral by raising rates so fast, which is more than likely going to trigger a recession. Of course the Fed and a lot of the people who support raising interest rates are mostly trying to argue that higher wages are a major cause of inflation, but these issues have been going on before wages generally increased for people, and inflation has more than overtaken any wage gains made in the last 2 or so years.
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Jun 21, 2022 02:49
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God they will just torpedo the entire planet before giving people a raise, huh
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Jun 21, 2022 02:54
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I definitely, absolutely believe they're trying to get the inflation rate down but also that the only tool they're interested in using is depressing wages, which is something they themselves have also said, so yes I expect they will keep going up on account of everybody in the Fed being Austrian economics idiots
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Jun 21, 2022 03:03
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Mendrian posted:Can someone good at math explain what federal fiscal budgets have to do with consumer price inflation. monetary policy tends to be viewed through the lens of inflation, fiscal policy less so, though fiscal policy does occasionally get a mention the case study i've seen cited the most is us deficit spending to fund the vietnam war in the late 60's and early 70's (many will often point to the great society, but it paled in comparison to the outlays for the war). at a few points war expenditures peaked at over 9% of gdp. this money being pushed into the domestic defense industry encouraged expansion, which tightened the labor market, which increased wages, which increased labor costs, which increased prices, which drove labors demand for higher wages, ad nauseum, setting the stage for the rampant inflation in the 70's and 80's this ignores things like the supply chain shocks that followed the rise of opec and the revolution in iran. the focus of the narrative always tends towards keeping consumers and wage earners desperate
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Jun 21, 2022 03:03
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some plague rats posted:To lighten the mood, I was reading one of the bad threads and I ran across this extremely darkly funny excerpt from Yesterday's Man: Honestly incredible. It's not a surprise to me that Biden considers politics be nothing more than a game played with people's lives, but I'm still shocked at how loving bad he is at playing the game.
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Jun 21, 2022 03:22
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A big flaming stink posted:Honestly incredible. It's not a surprise to me that Biden considers politics be nothing more than a game played with people's lives, but I'm still shocked at how loving bad he is at playing the game. eh you're confusing the win conditions of politics with getting stuff done. you win in politics by getting elected to progressively higher office
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Jun 21, 2022 03:29
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FlamingLiberal posted:The current economic situation has nothing to do with central banks and everything to do with supply shocks/supply chain breakdown, and greed. We're still dealing with the effects of supply chain fuckery dating back to 2020, and it's being compounded by things like China doing periodic lockdowns and the Ukraine War. It's raising the cost of everything, and the Fed raising interest rates is going to just make this worse and probably cause a recession, since the causes of inflation are almost entirely out of the hands of the Fed's reach. I am very nervous about the Fed causing a stagflation spiral by raising rates so fast, which is more than likely going to trigger a recession. Of course the Fed and a lot of the people who support raising interest rates are mostly trying to argue that higher wages are a major cause of inflation, but these issues have been going on before wages generally increased for people, and inflation has more than overtaken any wage gains made in the last 2 or so years. This is the plan. The Fed is saying it is the plan. Biden is on board. The recent FOMC forecast numbers are stagflation numbers.
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Jun 21, 2022 03:35
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The global economy is going to be less global going forward. Companies are moving away from horizontal international supply chains and towards vertical integration and more regional supply chains. This is less efficient and everything will cost more. To stop inflation they’ll raise rates to cause demand destruction which isn’t working so far. Because it’s service demand bring destroyed. But all the other countries are also raising rates and capital is moving back into the states. This is to say raising rates will eventually cause overseas demand destruction too. It will stop inflation eventually but this is all very very bad. And more bad for places that aren’t the US.
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Jun 21, 2022 04:07
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some plague rats posted:To lighten the mood, I was reading one of the bad threads and I ran across this extremely darkly funny excerpt from Yesterday's Man: While that is an entertaining anecdote, please stick to current events.
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Jun 21, 2022 04:47
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Everyone I know has told me that the inflation is because Biden gave people $1400 and heaped lavish unemployment benefits on them during peak Covid. How come no one I know has suggested that maybe the recent housing and stock market bubbles that created zillions of dollars in fake wealth out of nothing has something to do with it.
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Number_6 posted:Everyone I know has told me that the inflation is because Biden gave people $1400 and heaped lavish unemployment benefits on them during peak Covid. Because they are the beneficiaries of this fake wealth and they will blame free money on problems just like people blame homelessness on monetary issues. There's 1600 homeless people in my city of 200,000 and they are blamed for everything and describes as "living it big and happy in their encampments" it's loving annoying and your people are just as corrupted.
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Number_6 posted:Everyone I know has told me that the inflation is because Biden gave people $1400 and heaped lavish unemployment benefits on them during peak Covid. “The problem is poor people being wastrels” is a fiction as old as time to make sure the rich get richer. Hell, during the last gilded age the likes of Carnegie said his wealth was a social good because he would spend it on libraries and schools instead of being frittered away by the poor.
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Number_6 posted:Everyone I know has told me that the inflation is because Biden gave people $1400 and heaped lavish unemployment benefits on them during peak Covid. Because there's an absolute fuckton of money being spent to make sure the have that belief. Propaganda works
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Jun 21, 2022 08:37
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Koos Group posted:While that is an entertaining anecdote, please stick to current events. With respect, that post seems to be highly relevant context to current events. At least I found it to be and appreciated the detail.
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Reporting in from the northeast: yesterday I was mulching outside a bank (which was closed as teenth was on sunday) and got to hear five or so people exclaim "what the gently caress" finding it closed, and then further "are you loving kidding me?!?!" upon learning about juneteenth. It was hard to keep my mouth shut, but I do have to have some sense while wearing company colors. Also just walking about I heard random other work crews bitching or chortling about the "holiday - can you believe this bullshit!?" I'm genuinely surprised at how awful people are and it's hard not to go full misanthrope in the face of poo poo like that. I do think things like the holiday or forms of representation, while important to affected groups, aren't far from the entirely performative gesturing corporations and politicians will do. If people yesterday were complaining in that sense it would be so much more tolerable. No, though, just selfish ignorant reactionary outrage because they were mildly inconvienanced and didn't read or listen to news at all apparently. Step two is determining its because of the "other" (blacks? Democrats?!?) and then loudly bitching to signal/dog whistle so your pathetic rear end can feel both wronged and part of something. This culture war insanity is part of the reason I can no longer see political solutions. I know things have been a lot worse in the past but drat it sure feels like we're backsliding.
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BRJurgis posted:Reporting in from the northeast: yesterday I was mulching outside a bank (which was closed as teenth was on sunday) and got to hear five or so people exclaim "what the gently caress" finding it closed, and then further "are you loving kidding me?!?!" upon learning about juneteenth. It was hard to keep my mouth shut, but I do have to have some sense while wearing company colors. It's the American way of life; sheer outrage at anything that causes you a minor inconvenience.
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Jun 21, 2022 13:15
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IT BURNS posted:It's the American way of life; sheer outrage at anything that causes you a minor inconvenience. a) Happy to have the day off. b) Pissed that their employer is not giving them the day off.
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BRJurgis posted:Reporting in from the northeast: yesterday I was mulching outside a bank (which was closed as teenth was on sunday) and got to hear five or so people exclaim "what the gently caress" finding it closed, and then further "are you loving kidding me?!?!" upon learning about juneteenth. It was hard to keep my mouth shut, but I do have to have some sense while wearing company colors. Exact same thing in the South East. I didn't know the banks were closed myself and ran into a few people spouting similar sentiments to the ones you heard when I went to go in. What a dumb thing to get upset about. There's, what, two Holidays honoring black people? MLK and this one? For a race of people who built this loving country for free and against their will.
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BRJurgis posted:Reporting in from the northeast: yesterday I was mulching outside a bank (which was closed as teenth was on sunday) and got to hear five or so people exclaim "what the gently caress" finding it closed, and then further "are you loving kidding me?!?!" upon learning about juneteenth. It was hard to keep my mouth shut, but I do have to have some sense while wearing company colors. Getting an extra day off every year in perpetuity is probably the best thing Biden has done and the fact that it ends up simultaneously educating and bothering some of the worst people in the country is just a bonus.
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cat botherer posted:You'd think they'd be either: That's not how americans think, alas. We are very much the gently caress You Got Mine society and that extends to virtually all expressions of culture.
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