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Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006

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Grimey Drawer

Zugzwang posted:

I'm not even sure how often they still prescribe the stronger painkillers for vasectomies these days, given the opioid crisis and whatnot. I was advised to alternate ibuprofen and Tylenol every few hours for a week or two. The only prescription I got was for the two valiums to take before the procedure. And the OTC meds did the trick. Jockstraps definitely helped too for the first few weeks.

Anyhoo, I myself had like 3 weeks between consult and procedure. The only thing I'd change was that I wish I'd known about the doctor I ended up going with sooner. I initially made an appointment with a urologist, and after waiting 3 months, his office called to cancel a week before the consult. He had become "unexpectedly and indefinitely unavailable" :iiam:. I made a second urologist appointment that was a 4-month wait. Two months into that wait (so 5+ total months at this point), a doctor acquaintance recommended a family medicine doctor at a different place. I got in to see him literally 2 weeks after calling. Coulda gotten this all overwith a while ago. So it goes.

Ah gotcha. I was fortunate that the urology practice around me was looking for recruits. I called in July / August and I had the procedure done by September.

But I had mine done back in 2018 so that was pre-craziness.

what a lousy snipe. sorry.

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Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006

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Grimey Drawer

Anne Whateley posted:

He was talking about IVF. For that they don’t hook up all the plumbing again, they just go in with a syringe to extract sperm. It is also $$$ though

but they sound 100% sold anyway, it was just an interesting fact

Ah gotcha. From a money perspective if there's any doubt in your mind, don't get snipped.

IVF + vasectomy costs will be a greater expense than buying condoms.

Also over time your immune system will attack the sperm so IVF / reversals are less effective.

BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

Anne Whateley posted:

He was talking about IVF. For that they don’t hook up all the plumbing again, they just go in with a syringe to extract sperm. It is also $$$ though

but they sound 100% sold anyway, it was just an interesting fact

Totally this - just never knew that IVF was a thing for people that change their mind after a vasectomy, albeit a pricey one!

But no thanks, we’re good lol

“Anne Whateley" posted:

Btw, your wife probably already knows this, but nowadays they don’t tie the tubes, they take the tubes out altogether. The process is a bilateral salpingectomy. If a doctor offers to tie them instead, and isn’t just speaking carelessly, gtfo.

Another cool fact btw is that after she has it done, she’ll be much less likely to get ovarian cancer! We don’t have a thread for it, but feel free to ama here or in the birth control megathread

That’s awesome to know, thanks!!

Miracle Box
Sep 30, 2024

Procedure went well! Like many others have stated it was quick, didn’t feel a thing other than some slight pressure on my balls, and the only side effect is a general soreness. The nitrous really helped me just go with the flow. Now I wait to prove myself worthy as a eunuch in the court of the great Kublai Khan.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

Had the procedure done late October, got the confirmation from Fellow this week that I’m shooting blanks :hfive:

The only part that surprised me was that the actual cutting of the vas did hurt quite a bit for me, like I got kicked in the nuts. I don’t know if there just wasn’t enough local anesthetic or if I needed to take more pain meds prior to the procedure or what, but it def caught me off guard especially since so many of the people I know who had it done experienced little to no pain. But the 48 hours of Mass Effect I got to play while my spouse and kids pampered me was pretty great.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

I also felt one of the cuts. It sucked 😭

modern design slut
Jan 12, 2003

(previously actionjackson)
the part after where you have to jerk off in a clinic to test if it worked was so awkward.

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 4, 2009

actionjackson posted:

the part after where you have to jerk off in a clinic to test if it worked was so awkward.

Uhhhh. What?
I just did that at home and brought it in lol

w4ddl3d33
Sep 30, 2022

BIKE HARDER, YOUNG BLOOD

Serjeant Buzfuz posted:

Uhhhh. What?
I just did that at home and brought it in lol

how do they know you're not faking with somebody else's cum

modern design slut
Jan 12, 2003

(previously actionjackson)

Serjeant Buzfuz posted:

Uhhhh. What?
I just did that at home and brought it in lol

yeah I had to go into a room at a lab with a couple old porns on the TV

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

Life before death.
Strength before weakness.
Journey before destination.

w4ddl3d33 posted:

how do they know you're not faking with somebody else's cum
What benefit would you you derive from faking that?

jasoneatspizza
Jul 6, 2010
Just had this done Monday. No complications, but I can't say the procedure itself was a pleasant experience. I was expecting smoother based on reading other experiences, but feeling my nuts squeezed from the inside when they were locating those sperm tubes made me feel like I was gonna pass out. Had to get to them to pause for a bit after the left nut, because my blood pressure dropped. They gave me some oxygen and the right nut tube was equally not pleasant but I got through it. The burning smell was actually a relief cause I knew that meant the end was near.

I was pretty fine immediately after though. Didn't really need any time to rest. Right nut had some residual ache for a day. They gave me a jock strap, which I wore at home for like an hour before getting rid of it. I know they usually recommend more nut support, but personally I felt better just letting them hang. I didn't need to move around much either though.

Now there's nut sensitivity when they move around, but no consistent ache. The incision is tiny and has not been an issue at all. Still feel like I have micro PTSD if I think back on the procedure itself though.

BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

Yikes dude, that sucks! Hope the rest of recovery goes better than the first moments there.

I’m booked for later this month, and my dr. has me going under full anesthesia since, in his words, “too many guys have a hard time being fully awake for the procedure and move around too much.”

I certainly do not mind getting knocked out for like 30 minutes if it means I don’t have to even be aware of the snips being done.

Good soup!
Nov 1, 2010

jasoneatspizza posted:

Just had this done Monday. No complications, but I can't say the procedure itself was a pleasant experience. I was expecting smoother based on reading other experiences, but feeling my nuts squeezed from the inside when they were locating those sperm tubes made me feel like I was gonna pass out. Had to get to them to pause for a bit after the left nut, because my blood pressure dropped. They gave me some oxygen and the right nut tube was equally not pleasant but I got through it. The burning smell was actually a relief cause I knew that meant the end was near.

I was pretty fine immediately after though. Didn't really need any time to rest. Right nut had some residual ache for a day. They gave me a jock strap, which I wore at home for like an hour before getting rid of it. I know they usually recommend more nut support, but personally I felt better just letting them hang. I didn't need to move around much either though.

Now there's nut sensitivity when they move around, but no consistent ache. The incision is tiny and has not been an issue at all. Still feel like I have micro PTSD if I think back on the procedure itself though.

im surprised they still went through with it if you were going to pass out lol. when that vasovagal response happened to me the they instantly stopped and rescheduled to put me under and iirc my doc and a separate doc I talked to after said that's the better choice

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Serjeant Buzfuz posted:

Uhhhh. What?
I just did that at home and brought it in lol

Yeah, same; they gave me a sample jar to take home and use after the waiting period.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

Life before death.
Strength before weakness.
Journey before destination.
They don't care about sperm quality, just if they are present or not. You should be fine doing it at home and bring the sample in.

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

ilkhan posted:

They don't care about sperm quality, just if they are present or not. You should be fine doing it at home and bring the sample in.
My doc said the opposite about quality vs presence. The idea is that sperm can still be in there, but if they lack motility -- ie if they're not swimming or moving -- then you're ok. Because it can take quite a while for literally all the sperm to leave your plumbing after a vasectomy, but they can't impregnate anyone if they can't swim. This usually means they're dead, I think :shrug:

For that reason, when I give my sample (next week!), I'm supposed to keep the cup at body temp until I hand it in. This means holding it between my legs or the like. I had to do the same when I was doing fertility stuff with my wife before we had our two kids, and that was when we definitely cared about sperm quality.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

I just chucked a plastic cup at the receptionist and waited for the callback. Lol at cranking it at the doctor's office or in the parking lot.

majestic12
Sep 2, 2003

Pete likes coffee
The urologists office gave me one of those mail in kits with a little vial of fixative you pour into the sample cup, so they definitely aren’t concerned with motility

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Lol I ended up with the super gross porn in a dirty clinic room.

Not being fertile since 2017 is worth it tho

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Zugzwang posted:

My doc said the opposite about quality vs presence. The idea is that sperm can still be in there, but if they lack motility -- ie if they're not swimming or moving -- then you're ok. Because it can take quite a while for literally all the sperm to leave your plumbing after a vasectomy, but they can't impregnate anyone if they can't swim. This usually means they're dead, I think :shrug:

For that reason, when I give my sample (next week!), I'm supposed to keep the cup at body temp until I hand it in. This means holding it between my legs or the like. I had to do the same when I was doing fertility stuff with my wife before we had our two kids, and that was when we definitely cared about sperm quality.

That's interesting. I think in my case the interval between vasectomy and test (...90 days?) was supposed to be long enough that, if the procedure was successful, there shouldn't be any sperm left in the tubes whatsoever.

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

That's interesting. I think in my case the interval between vasectomy and test (...90 days?) was supposed to be long enough that, if the procedure was successful, there shouldn't be any sperm left in the tubes whatsoever.
Welp that's what happened with me today! No detectable sperm after 3 months, am cleared for takeoff.

When I took the sample to the lab, the lady I gave it to said "when did you do this?" I've been laughing about that all day.

w4ddl3d33
Sep 30, 2022

BIKE HARDER, YOUNG BLOOD

Zugzwang posted:

My doc said the opposite about quality vs presence. The idea is that sperm can still be in there, but if they lack motility -- ie if they're not swimming or moving -- then you're ok.

for some reason this line gave me the heebie-jeebies. you've got a fish tank with all the fish dead and floating at the top of the water, except it's not a fishtank and it's your balls


Gunshow Poophole posted:

Lol I ended up with the super gross porn in a dirty clinic room.

Not being fertile since 2017 is worth it tho

speaking from the other side, i worked for many years in a store that sold physical adult media (magazines, reference books, dvds) and it turns out there's actually a bunch of reasons why medical professionals might end up having to buy a bunch of porn for work. at least that's what they told me

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

w4ddl3d33 posted:

for some reason this line gave me the heebie-jeebies. you've got a fish tank with all the fish dead and floating at the top of the water, except it's not a fishtank and it's your balls
Eh, the fish tank is still full of happy swimmers. They just can't swim out of the tank anymore.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

I stumbled ass-backwards into a comfortable, easy life for reasons beyond my comprehension and now I think I'm better than you for it.

Zugzwang posted:

Eh, the fish tank is still full of happy swimmers. They just can't swim out of the tank anymore.

This is a pretty wholesome metaphor for marriage.

Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006

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Grimey Drawer
All the sperm in your balls is one reason reversals sometimes don't work! Your body makes antibodies against the sperm. So even if everything is hooked up again the sperm might not be healthy enough to be viable.

In regards to my sample the urologist's office sent me to the wrong lab. If you thought dropping your sample off was awkward, try taking it where they aren't expecting it.

Poldarn
Feb 18, 2011

Anderson Koopa posted:

In regards to my sample the urologist's office sent me to the wrong lab. If you thought dropping your sample off was awkward, try taking it where they aren't expecting it.

Poldarn posted:

So my province :canada: hates healthcare and has been slowly defunding it. There is only one testing centre for post-vasectomy sperm in my city, which is luckily a few minutes drive from my house.

BUT because of some recent changes to the private/public partnership of the contract company that does the testing, the address on the requisition I got after the procedure was out of date, and the online directions to the facility were contradictory depending on which website you went to (health authority/old company/new company/rebranded new company). I ended up calling the place just to be sure, and doing a drive by the day before because the only thing weirder than carrying a hot cup of cum in your pocket, is carrying a hot cup of cum in your pocket for no reason.

Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006

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Grimey Drawer

:hfive:

It's a strange feeling driving your emissions to a different lab lol

BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

How much did you end up paying for your procedure? Just got the estimate from the surgical center for $1100 USD, which tracks on the higher end of what I’ve read online for average prices (some of you in the thread paid nothing because insurance covered it all, others like $300-700; I did see some dude on Reddit who paid like $20k, so maybe my cost isn’t so bad???).

My insurance covered $700 or so per both the deductible and out of pocket, and it isn’t like I can’t afford it, but I am a little taken aback seeing that number in my email this morning. Mostly looking to compare notes, not so much cancel my appt to shop around.

Context: in NJ, doing full anesthesia per my urologist’s direction. Probably also owe on top for that and other office fees but this is the surgical center’s ballpark estimate that I’ll owe on Friday when I go in.

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

BodyMassageMachine posted:

Context: in NJ, doing full anesthesia per my urologist’s direction. Probably also owe on top for that and other office fees but this is the surgical center’s ballpark estimate that I’ll owe on Friday when I go in.
Full anesthesia may be why you're paying so much. I owed my standard insurance copays for the consult and procedure, and that's it. Got local anesthesia though.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Mine was just the cost of a specialist copay because it was considered a preventative procedure (duh), but I didn’t do any anesthesia.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


My procedure is finally tomorrow, but I've come down with a really lovely respiratory infection that has me sneezing and coughing hard enough that my abs are starting to hurt. Is this going to make the immediate recovery period more painful?

I have no worries about the cut itself, but I got sick immediately after hernia repair surgery years ago and frankly I don't want to put myself through anything like that again. If abdominal pressure is going to gently caress me up here too, I'll just reschedule.

Edit: got to talk to the urologist, and he said it could certainly make recovery worse, so we're rebooked for early April. In the meantime, this cough sucks! See you thread then

Squiggle fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Mar 19, 2025

Abyss
Oct 29, 2011


The fee for not coming in for the operation ($250) was actually more than what the operation cost me ($110).

Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006

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Grimey Drawer
I paid about a grand. Insurance wasn't all that helpful. Only got local.

Squiggle posted:

My procedure is finally tomorrow, but I've come down with a really lovely respiratory infection that has me sneezing and coughing hard enough that my abs are starting to hurt. Is this going to make the immediate recovery period more painful?

I have no worries about the cut itself, but I got sick immediately after hernia repair surgery years ago and frankly I don't want to put myself through anything like that again. If abdominal pressure is going to gently caress me up here too, I'll just reschedule.

Edit: got to talk to the urologist, and he said it could certainly make recovery worse, so we're rebooked for early April. In the meantime, this cough sucks! See you thread then

Good call rebooking. It will help your recovery and keep a potentially contagious respiratory infection out of the hospital

Win win.

BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

Heading to the office now, seeya on the other side boys.

Miracle Box
Sep 30, 2024

Godspeed my friend!

Coming to you from the other side: Just got the call from my urologist confirming I’m sperm free :cheers:

Good soup!
Nov 1, 2010

Abyss posted:

The fee for not coming in for the operation ($250) was actually more than what the operation cost me ($110).

yeah we have BCBS FEP so I'm not the best to ask about insurance costs because I don't think I've ever paid more than $200 for literally anything, even the births of our girls cost barely a few hundred combined

Well aware of that privilege and it actually gives me extreme levels of guilt, shout out to my shrink though

BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

Miracle Box posted:

Godspeed my friend!

Coming to you from the other side: Just got the call from my urologist confirming I’m sperm free :cheers:

Thanks! And :toot: congrats!!

Everything went great! Apparently I needed more juice on my anesthetic since I was kind of awake when the doc came in, but otherwise I zonked out and woke up a little while later wearing a big gauze jockstrap. Now I’m gonna spend the next two days or so on the couch icing myself and watching tv.

Hotel Kpro
Feb 23, 2011

all in the reflexes


Dinosaur Gum
Isn't this the most popular time of the year to do it? Beginning of March Madness sounds like a great reason to stay home

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BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

Hotel Kpro posted:

Isn't this the most popular time of the year to do it? Beginning of March Madness sounds like a great reason to stay home

:lol: yeah my doc said as much. Maybe not intentionally, but March seems to be THE month for these operations, and March Madness is a happy coincidence.

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