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AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

darkwolf220 posted:

These are a lot of the arguments I made back when we increased defense scoring to begin with. Too many times for my taste the right answer to 'Which defense should I play?' was none. People just didn't want to risk losing points. Or you had two complete teams play each other and the defenses looked inept because it was a shootout. There are very few situations where you should get punished for starting a player, but with defenses it felt like that punishment happened 3 or 4 games a season.
I'm glad I'm not alone! I'm going to wait till after I've played a year in the league before I make a serious proposal to make a change but its nice to know some thought has already gone into it.


Pain of Mind posted:

Outside of literally the top few players at a position and QBs, even bad defenses will outscore the majority of the first and second round picks.
As someone new to the league and playing in a 20 team format (I told some of my friends and they think I'm nuts) this is all great to know, so thank you for posting it.


Silly Burrito posted:

<draft order>
Is there an old thread that has the draft history of prior drafts, or can you grant me access in ESPN to previous years draft results? I'm getting a "You do not have permission to view this page" when going to League => History (which shows me last years trophies) then clicking on the Draft Recap link. I ask because of the whole "being new to a 20 team format" thing and the, uh, complete lack of other 20 team leagues to look at as a reference point when preparing to draft.

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Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Take QBs early because you won’t have access to a viable backup probably

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

Ok, the draft order has been set, the punter position has been added (14 round draft now), and the schedule has been finalized. Big thanks again to Econdad for helping me make that spreadsheet last year, it made it really easy to find/replace all the teams and you should all now have some fresh matchups. Only thing left to do is decide the punter scoring but other than that, I think we're good to go. Draft is in 12 days! You should now be able to trade picks if you want to.

Here's the schedule, as formatted as it's gonna get here, please check out ESPN if you want a prettier version.

Week Away Home Type of game
Week 1 Boudin Ballers vs. Deflated Bush Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Washington Washingtons vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Lock Picks Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Electric Blue Division
Placeholder Name vs. Baller Status Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Taco Tuesday Conference

Week 2 Deflated Bush vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Lock Picks vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Electric Blue vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Baller Status vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Placeholder Name vs. Chem's Cylons Conference

Week 3 Seattle Frasiers vs. Deflated Bush Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Chem's Cylons vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Placeholder Name vs. Electric Blue Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Inwards Topwise Conference
Lock Picks vs. Baller Status Conference

Week 4 Deflated Bush vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Lock Picks Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Electric Blue vs. Baller Status Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Placeholder Name Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Akron Peppercorns Conference
Washington Washingtons vs. M. Night Shanahan Conference

Week 5 Seattle Frasiers vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Lock Picks Division
Placeholder Name vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Baller Status Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Electric Blue vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference

Week 6 Akron Peppercorns vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Inwards Topwise vs. Boudin Ballers Conference
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Shelbyville Sharks Conference
Naptown Sleepers vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Rated R Superstars vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
M. Night Shanahan vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference
Baller Status vs. Washington Washingtons Conference
Placeholder Name vs. Lock Picks Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Chem's Cylons Conference
Electric Blue vs. Taco Tuesday Conference

Week 7 Deflated Bush vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS OOC
Boudin Ballers vs. Washington Washingtons OOC
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Lock Picks OOC
Seattle Frasiers vs. Chem's Cylons OOC
Discount Double Champ vs. Taco Tuesday OOC
Electric Blue vs. Rated R Superstars OOC
M. Night Shanahan vs. Akron Peppercorns OOC
Baller Status vs. Inwards Topwise OOC
Placeholder Name vs. Flowers for Edgerrin OOC
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Naptown Sleepers OOC

Week 8 Deflated Bush vs. Inwards Topwise Conference
Boudin Ballers vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Conference
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Naptown Sleepers Conference
Seattle Frasiers vs. Rated R Superstars Conference
Discount Double Champ vs. Akron Peppercorns Conference
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Baller Status Conference
Washington Washingtons vs. Placeholder Name Conference
Lock Picks vs. Spinnin Freeneys Conference
Chem's Cylons vs. Electric Blue Conference
Taco Tuesday vs. M. Night Shanahan Conference

Week 9 Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Naptown Sleepers vs. Boudin Ballers Conference
Rated R Superstars vs. Shelbyville Sharks Conference
Akron Peppercorns vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Inwards Topwise vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
Placeholder Name vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Washington Washingtons Conference
Electric Blue vs. Lock Picks Conference
M. Night Shanahan vs. Chem's Cylons Conference
Baller Status vs. Taco Tuesday Conference

Week 10 Boudin Ballers vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Lock Picks vs. Taco Tuesday Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Placeholder Name Division
Baller Status vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Deflated Bush vs. Electric Blue OOC
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Rated R Superstars OOC

Week 11 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Deflated Bush Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Lock Picks vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Baller Status vs. Electric Blue Division
Placeholder Name vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Boudin Ballers OOC
Akron Peppercorns vs. Washington Washingtons OOC

Week 12 Deflated Bush vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Electric Blue vs. Placeholder Name Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Baller Status vs. Shelbyville Sharks OOC
Inwards Topwise vs. Lock Picks OOC

Week 13 Discount Double Champ vs. Deflated Bush Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Taco Tuesday vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Lock Picks Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Electric Blue Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Baller Status Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Placeholder Name OOC
Chem's Cylons vs. Flowers for Edgerrin OOC

Week 14 Deflated Bush vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Lock Picks vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Electric Blue vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Baller Status vs. Placeholder Name Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Spinnin Freeneys OOC
Taco Tuesday vs. Naptown Sleepers OOC

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

I'm glad I'm not alone! I'm going to wait till after I've played a year in the league before I make a serious proposal to make a change but its nice to know some thought has already gone into it.

As someone new to the league and playing in a 20 team format (I told some of my friends and they think I'm nuts) this is all great to know, so thank you for posting it.

Is there an old thread that has the draft history of prior drafts, or can you grant me access in ESPN to previous years draft results? I'm getting a "You do not have permission to view this page" when going to League => History (which shows me last years trophies) then clicking on the Draft Recap link. I ask because of the whole "being new to a 20 team format" thing and the, uh, complete lack of other 20 team leagues to look at as a reference point when preparing to draft.

I don't think ESPN allows you to view it if you weren't a part of the league before. But I may be able to find a way to print or get the last five drafts and post them in here if you give me a bit. Let me noodle with that. But feel free to make a proposal at any time for next year and I'll add it to the list. This league is for all of us, and I want to make sure we enjoy it as much as possible.

ASAPRockySituation posted:

Take QBs early because you won’t have access to a viable backup probably

Remember I joked with you about Nick Mullens in a PM? That's happened quite a bit in this league. Not everyone gets a backup QB, so you either trade or pick up a second stringer in your bye week.

And yeah, 20 team formats are nuts. But fun as hell.

wish I could win one sometime

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Silly Burrito posted:

I don't think ESPN allows you to view it if you weren't a part of the league before. But I may be able to find a way to print or get the last five drafts and post them in here if you give me a bit. Let me noodle with that. But feel free to make a proposal at any time for next year and I'll add it to the list. This league is for all of us, and I want to make sure we enjoy it as much as possible.

Remember I joked with you about Nick Mullens in a PM? That's happened quite a bit in this league. Not everyone gets a backup QB, so you either trade or pick up a second stringer in your bye week.
Even one year would be great to see (and I'm sure other newbies would want to see it too), so dont break your back for 5 years.

Silly Burrito posted:

And yeah, 20 team formats are nuts. But fun as hell.

wish I could win one sometime
Yeah the more I think about it the more my excitement grows. I cant wait for my excitement to turn to terror on draft night as things get wild.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

Silly Burrito posted:

Ok, the draft order has been set, the punter position has been added (14 round draft now), and the schedule has been finalized. Big thanks again to Econdad for helping me make that spreadsheet last year, it made it really easy to find/replace all the teams and you should all now have some fresh matchups. Only thing left to do is decide the punter scoring but other than that, I think we're good to go. Draft is in 12 days! You should now be able to trade picks if you want to.

Here's the schedule, as formatted as it's gonna get here, please check out ESPN if you want a prettier version.

Week Away Home Type of game
Week 1 Boudin Ballers vs. Deflated Bush Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Washington Washingtons vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Lock Picks Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Electric Blue Division
Placeholder Name vs. Baller Status Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Taco Tuesday Conference

Week 2 Deflated Bush vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Lock Picks vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Electric Blue vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Baller Status vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Placeholder Name vs. Chem's Cylons Conference

Week 3 Seattle Frasiers vs. Deflated Bush Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Chem's Cylons vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Placeholder Name vs. Electric Blue Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Inwards Topwise Conference
Lock Picks vs. Baller Status Conference

Week 4 Deflated Bush vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Lock Picks Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Electric Blue vs. Baller Status Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Placeholder Name Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Akron Peppercorns Conference
Washington Washingtons vs. M. Night Shanahan Conference

Week 5 Seattle Frasiers vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Lock Picks Division
Placeholder Name vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Baller Status Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Electric Blue vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference

Week 6 Akron Peppercorns vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Inwards Topwise vs. Boudin Ballers Conference
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Shelbyville Sharks Conference
Naptown Sleepers vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Rated R Superstars vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
M. Night Shanahan vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference
Baller Status vs. Washington Washingtons Conference
Placeholder Name vs. Lock Picks Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Chem's Cylons Conference
Electric Blue vs. Taco Tuesday Conference

Week 7 Deflated Bush vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS OOC
Boudin Ballers vs. Washington Washingtons OOC
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Lock Picks OOC
Seattle Frasiers vs. Chem's Cylons OOC
Discount Double Champ vs. Taco Tuesday OOC
Electric Blue vs. Rated R Superstars OOC
M. Night Shanahan vs. Akron Peppercorns OOC
Baller Status vs. Inwards Topwise OOC
Placeholder Name vs. Flowers for Edgerrin OOC
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Naptown Sleepers OOC

Week 8 Deflated Bush vs. Inwards Topwise Conference
Boudin Ballers vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Conference
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Naptown Sleepers Conference
Seattle Frasiers vs. Rated R Superstars Conference
Discount Double Champ vs. Akron Peppercorns Conference
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Baller Status Conference
Washington Washingtons vs. Placeholder Name Conference
Lock Picks vs. Spinnin Freeneys Conference
Chem's Cylons vs. Electric Blue Conference
Taco Tuesday vs. M. Night Shanahan Conference

Week 9 Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Naptown Sleepers vs. Boudin Ballers Conference
Rated R Superstars vs. Shelbyville Sharks Conference
Akron Peppercorns vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Inwards Topwise vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
Placeholder Name vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Washington Washingtons Conference
Electric Blue vs. Lock Picks Conference
M. Night Shanahan vs. Chem's Cylons Conference
Baller Status vs. Taco Tuesday Conference

Week 10 Boudin Ballers vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Lock Picks vs. Taco Tuesday Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Placeholder Name Division
Baller Status vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Deflated Bush vs. Electric Blue OOC
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Rated R Superstars OOC

Week 11 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Deflated Bush Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Lock Picks vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Baller Status vs. Electric Blue Division
Placeholder Name vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Boudin Ballers OOC
Akron Peppercorns vs. Washington Washingtons OOC

Week 12 Deflated Bush vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Electric Blue vs. Placeholder Name Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Baller Status vs. Shelbyville Sharks OOC
Inwards Topwise vs. Lock Picks OOC

Week 13 Discount Double Champ vs. Deflated Bush Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Taco Tuesday vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Lock Picks Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Electric Blue Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Baller Status Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Placeholder Name OOC
Chem's Cylons vs. Flowers for Edgerrin OOC

Week 14 Deflated Bush vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Lock Picks vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Electric Blue vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Baller Status vs. Placeholder Name Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Spinnin Freeneys OOC
Taco Tuesday vs. Naptown Sleepers OOC

Glad you were able to get the schedule going. I was wondering if the template you/we (or whoever) did last year could be applied again. My memory was failing me as to how we rigged it last year.

One small thing: I'm noticing I'm playing the same Romo opponent as last year. Does Week 7 need a "shakeup"? Or, did other people get new matchups of the Romo/Namath and Montana/Marino variety?

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Even one year would be great to see (and I'm sure other newbies would want to see it too), so dont break your back for 5 years.

Yeah the more I think about it the more my excitement grows. I cant wait for my excitement to turn to terror on draft night as things get wild.

This 20 team league is about as fun as a league gets, IMO. We have a good group of people in here, and the chaos is real.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Even one year would be great to see (and I'm sure other newbies would want to see it too), so dont break your back for 5 years.

Yeah the more I think about it the more my excitement grows. I cant wait for my excitement to turn to terror on draft night as things get wild.

Ask and ye shall receive. Weird thing is, it won't let me go past 2020 to see the draft for those years. Might be because I had to swap teams with Jetsguy when he left. That's why he's still on my team (and can't be deleted).





EconDad posted:

Glad you were able to get the schedule going. I was wondering if the template you/we (or whoever) did last year could be applied again. My memory was failing me as to how we rigged it last year.

One small thing: I'm noticing I'm playing the same Romo opponent as last year. Does Week 7 need a "shakeup"? Or, did other people get new matchups of the Romo/Namath and Montana/Marino variety?

You were Namath 2 last year, now you're Namath 1 (remember how we shifted up and down based on the division?) But now that I'm looking at it, I can see a couple of the same matchups too, just different home/away status. Maybe the shifting doesn't work as well as I'd hoped, and I just need to randomize each year all five slots. Give me a bit, I'll have to redo this.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

Silly Burrito posted:

Ask and ye shall receive. Weird thing is, it won't let me go past 2020 to see the draft for those years. Might be because I had to swap teams with Jetsguy when he left. That's why he's still on my team (and can't be deleted).





You were Namath 2 last year, now you're Namath 1 (remember how we shifted up and down based on the division?) But now that I'm looking at it, I can see a couple of the same matchups too, just different home/away status. Maybe the shifting doesn't work as well as I'd hoped, and I just need to randomize each year all five slots. Give me a bit, I'll have to redo this.

I'm only seeing it in Week 7. It's not that big of a deal.

If I recall, there was some "snag" I noticed with maybe just that week? But I was just pushing it off in my brain until this year.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

EconDad posted:

I'm only seeing it in Week 7. It's not that big of a deal.

If I recall, there was some "snag" I noticed with maybe just that week? But I was just pushing it off in my brain until this year.

Nah, the whole point was to make sure people had fresh matches every year for their non-divisional opponents. Disregard the list above, I'm going to randomize each division's slots and make sure people aren't in the same slots as before. I can't guarantee that someone won't play a similar matchup from last year, but it's going to be more randomized than the slide up/slide down method.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



I'm absolutely never prepared for how quickly QBs get taken. And then it's like mid-2nd/early 3rd and whoops, guess I get Matt Ryan again!

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Silly Burrito posted:

Ask and ye shall receive.
You are a gentleman and a scholar, thank you.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

You are a gentleman and a scholar, thank you.

You're welcome, hope it helps!

Ok, here's the new schedule which has been more randomized. Some games were the same, but it's definitely a different order than the year before. Maybe after the season, someone else can do a "What If" season using the original schedule above.

Week Away Home Type of game
Week 1 Discount Double Champ vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Deflated Bush Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Lock Picks Division
Baller Status vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Placeholder Name vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Electric Blue vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference

Week 2 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Deflated Bush vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Taco Tuesday vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Lock Picks vs. Chem's Cylons Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Electric Blue Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Baller Status Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Boudin Ballers Conference
Placeholder Name vs. Washington Washingtons Conference

Week 3 Boudin Ballers vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Taco Tuesday Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Placeholder Name vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Electric Blue vs. Baller Status Division
Deflated Bush vs. Rated R Superstars Conference
Lock Picks vs. Spinnin Freeneys Conference

Week 4 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Deflated Bush Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Lock Picks Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Washington Washingtons Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Electric Blue vs. Placeholder Name Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Inwards Topwise Conference
Chem's Cylons vs. Baller Status Conference

Week 5 Boudin Ballers vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Deflated Bush Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Rated R Superstars Division
Washington Washingtons vs. Chem's Cylons Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Lock Picks Division
Placeholder Name vs. Baller Status Division
Electric Blue vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Shelbyville Sharks Conference
M. Night Shanahan vs. Taco Tuesday Conference

Week 6 Inwards Topwise vs. Shelbyville Sharks Conference
Rated R Superstars vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
Naptown Sleepers vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Akron Peppercorns vs. Boudin Ballers Conference
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Baller Status vs. Taco Tuesday Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Chem's Cylons Conference
Placeholder Name vs. Lock Picks Conference
Electric Blue vs. Washington Washingtons Conference
M. Night Shanahan vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference

Week 7 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Taco Tuesday OOC
Discount Double Champ vs. Chem's Cylons OOC
Deflated Bush vs. Lock Picks OOC
Boudin Ballers vs. Washington Washingtons OOC
Seattle Frasiers vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS OOC
M. Night Shanahan vs. Flowers for Edgerrin OOC
Baller Status vs. Inwards Topwise OOC
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Rated R Superstars OOC
Placeholder Name vs. Naptown Sleepers OOC
Electric Blue vs. Akron Peppercorns OOC

Week 8 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Rated R Superstars Conference
Discount Double Champ vs. Naptown Sleepers Conference
Deflated Bush vs. Akron Peppercorns Conference
Boudin Ballers vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Conference
Seattle Frasiers vs. Inwards Topwise Conference
Taco Tuesday vs. Spinnin Freeneys Conference
Chem's Cylons vs. Placeholder Name Conference
Lock Picks vs. Electric Blue Conference
Washington Washingtons vs. M. Night Shanahan Conference
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Baller Status Conference

Week 9 Naptown Sleepers vs. Shelbyville Sharks Conference
Akron Peppercorns vs. Discount Double Champ Conference
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Deflated Bush Conference
Inwards Topwise vs. Boudin Ballers Conference
Rated R Superstars vs. Seattle Frasiers Conference
Placeholder Name vs. Taco Tuesday Conference
Electric Blue vs. Chem's Cylons Conference
M. Night Shanahan vs. Lock Picks Conference
Baller Status vs. Washington Washingtons Conference
Spinnin Freeneys vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Conference

Week 10 Discount Double Champ vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Deflated Bush vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Lock Picks vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Baller Status vs. Placeholder Name Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Electric Blue Division
Shelbyville Sharks vs. M. Night Shanahan OOC
Taco Tuesday vs. Flowers for Edgerrin OOC

Week 11 Deflated Bush vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Naptown Sleepers vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Lock Picks vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Washington Washingtons vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Placeholder Name vs. Electric Blue Division
Baller Status vs. Discount Double Champ OOC
Inwards Topwise vs. Chem's Cylons OOC

Week 12 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Seattle Frasiers Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Akron Peppercorns Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Washington Washingtons Division
Chem's Cylons vs. ArchimeDEEZ NUTS Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Placeholder Name Division
Baller Status vs. Electric Blue Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Deflated Bush OOC
Rated R Superstars vs. Lock Picks OOC

Week 13 Seattle Frasiers vs. Shelbyville Sharks Division
Discount Double Champ vs. Deflated Bush Division
Akron Peppercorns vs. Flowers for Edgerrin Division
Inwards Topwise vs. Rated R Superstars Division
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Taco Tuesday Division
Chem's Cylons vs. Lock Picks Division
Electric Blue vs. M. Night Shanahan Division
Baller Status vs. Spinnin Freeneys Division
Boudin Ballers vs. Placeholder Name OOC
Washington Washingtons vs. Naptown Sleepers OOC

Week 14 Shelbyville Sharks vs. Discount Double Champ Division
Deflated Bush vs. Boudin Ballers Division
Flowers for Edgerrin vs. Inwards Topwise Division
Rated R Superstars vs. Naptown Sleepers Division
Taco Tuesday vs. Chem's Cylons Division
Lock Picks vs. Washington Washingtons Division
M. Night Shanahan vs. Baller Status Division
Spinnin Freeneys vs. Placeholder Name Division
Seattle Frasiers vs. Electric Blue OOC
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS vs. Akron Peppercorns OOC

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Glad for the reminder that I drafted Julio Jones with Cooper Kupp still on the board last season

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



Power of Pecota posted:

Glad for the reminder that I drafted Julio Jones with Cooper Kupp still on the board last season

I traded Kupp for Hockenson, Renfrow and a late pick in dynasty around week 4 last year because I thought there was no way he'd keep that up all season and I was 2-2 after three middle-of-the-pack seasons and thought I should just blow up my team. :shepface:

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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I offered Elijah Mitchell for some WR3 after week 1 in another league because I figured he would not be the starter all year. They rejected the trade and I won the league.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

Looks like most people who've responded in the last couple of days want to try Pmchem's solution or are mainly indifferent to punter scoring, so to make it easier and get it finalized, I'm just going to go ahead and implement that scoring for this season. Once this season is over, we can tweak as necessary.




Power of Pecota posted:

Glad for the reminder that I drafted Julio Jones with Cooper Kupp still on the board last season

I could've had a team of Austin Ekeler, Justin Jefferson, Cooper Kupp, and Ja'marr Chase by Round 5. :sigh:

Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Aug 19, 2022

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

Crossing the streams here because this was pretty drat amazing by Quiet Feet.

Quiet Feet posted:

It is done.



Thanks Drunknerds!

Said it elsewhere but I feel like a dog that caught a car.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

Silly Burrito posted:

Crossing the streams here because this was pretty drat amazing by Quiet Feet.

Not sure how one would even begin to pull that off. I had four of twelve third round picks in dynasty rookie draft, and that felt like quite an accomplishment in itself.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

24 hours to go, and I'm stoked, even at the rear end end of the draft.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



Random fun fact: QBs taken in the first 2 rounds in the last 3 seasons.

2019: 3
2020: 7
2021: 9

Will this trend continue? Experts say :shrug:

Lol, the three QBs taken in 2019 were Pat Mahomes, Deshaun Watson and Baker Mayfield. Gonna say those might not be the first three off the board this year.

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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You can still see years before 2019 if you change the URL. If anything QB picks have been on a somewhat downward trend, unless QBs were just worse from 2018-2020.
2018: 5
2017: 10
2016: 9
2015: 8
2014: 12
2013: 9
2012: 13
2011: 9
2010: 10
2009: 10

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

I may be starting the draft on my phone, depends on how early I get my rear end in gear for the 9 hr drive home tomorrow. I haven’t studied at all! Can’t wait!!!

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



Pain of Mind posted:

You can still see years before 2019 if you change the URL. If anything QB picks have been on a somewhat downward trend, unless QBs were just worse from 2018-2020.
2018: 5
2017: 10
2016: 9
2015: 8
2014: 12
2013: 9
2012: 13
2011: 9
2010: 10
2009: 10

That's interesting. I wasn't in the league before 2019 and just assumed it didn't want to show me anything prior to that.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

Quiet Feet posted:

That's interesting. I wasn't in the league before 2019 and just assumed it didn't want to show me anything prior to that.

I think it doesn't let you see the years you weren't in it.

I picked a QB first/second round in both 2020/2021 and before that I wasn't in the league.

The Electric Blue effect, they call it.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



Econdad check your emails I have a blockbuster trade for you.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

Watch out, Quiet Feet wants your 14th round pick.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

I cant wait to screw up my first 20 team draft horribly.

AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Aug 28, 2022

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



Silly Burrito posted:

Watch out, Quiet Feet wants your 14th round pick.

Hey watch out, if he doesn't take me up on this I'm pitching it to you next!

Besides you thought I was crazy when I got all the 5th rounders in dynasty, but wait until that happens here! :twisted:

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

I cant wait to screw up my first 20 team draft horribly.

You won't even know how bad you've messed up until like week fifteen. I don't think I've had a year yet where half my draft wasn't eventually dropped.

I wanna say it was last year where we had someone autodraft and they took no QBs at all. They somehow emerged 3-0 after the first three weeks, finally managed to trade for a quarterback... and lost every game for the rest of the season.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

Quiet Feet posted:

Hey watch out, if he doesn't take me up on this I'm pitching it to you next!

Besides you thought I was crazy when I got all the 5th rounders in dynasty, but wait until that happens here! :twisted:

If you pull that off, I will concede and call you the master of trading.

But you actually bring up a point I was thinking of making (and possibly making an official proposal for next year). Right now, here are the settings for trades:



With Thursday night football, you can't make any trades that will help you if you need it on Thursday since the waivers process on Wednesdays and trades take 2 days to process. I'd like to consider dropping that down to either 1 day with 8 vetoes or instantly with no vetoes (barring collusion trades). Or, we could just keep it as is with 2 days/8 vetoes. Wonder what y'all think about it? We don't trade a ton in this league, and I'm wondering if this would help spur more of them.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


not a fan of using votes for trade vetos, it turns into a popularity or 'will this hurt my chances' contest instead of a fairness evaluation. plus half the league won't be paying attention anyway.

just let the commish handle it and only veto collusion or intentional team-destroying trades

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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pmchem posted:

not a fan of using votes for trade vetos, it turns into a popularity or 'will this hurt my chances' contest instead of a fairness evaluation. plus half the league won't be paying attention anyway.

just let the commish handle it and only veto collusion or intentional team-destroying trades

That really has not been the case here, I cannot recall the last time any trade got vetoed. There is not too much incentive to be a jerk between it being free, people being in multiple leagues with each other, and it trending towards more experienced fantasy people since it is 20 teams.

Braksgirl
Dec 25, 2010

Unofficial Goon Disney travel agent since 2014!

Tens of Goons served!


I'm not sure I've ever once vetoed a trade. If you want to trade your best player for a scrub and you're not colluding, then that's between you and your trade partner. Ain't none of my nevermind.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS
Instant trades. I’ve liked it in any league I’ve had it in.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



Trading is good and fun. I don't see any reason to have vetoes.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

Quiet Feet posted:

Econdad check your emails I have a blockbuster trade for you.

Got an email and it lists like every pick being traded. Is it just us swapping spots everywhere?

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



EconDad posted:

Got an email and it lists like every pick being traded. Is it just us swapping spots everywhere?

Yup! Complete draft swap.

Edit: fwiw, all the mocks I've been doing put a slew of players I want in reach of me around the 1st/2nd round turn. This shortens the window for me while I think still leaving plenty of the players I'm looking at still available.

Quiet Feet fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 28, 2022

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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I played around with some mocks but they are so far removed from how the actual draft goes that I feel like they are actively detrimental. None of my leagues are actually mock draftable between 20 teams, 16 teams, keeper leagues, IDP etc.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?



Pain of Mind posted:

I played around with some mocks but they are so far removed from how the actual draft goes that I feel like they are actively detrimental. None of my leagues are actually mock draftable between 20 teams, 16 teams, keeper leagues, IDP etc.

Yeah, I mostly do them for fun but I've found Sleeper's mocks are close enough if you squint. They at least seem to be accurate as to where people actually begin to take kickers and D/STs. Previously I used to just use Fantasypros but they seem t think that nobody will even look at those positions until the last few rounds.

I've been farting around with Sleeper and checking out what happens if I randomly assign a number of QBS to teams in every round, going roughly by what the averages have been in the past and rolling a 20-sided die, before actually starting the draft. It's a stupid amount of effort and the draft will probably go sideways by the 5th pick but I like the mental exercise.

Edit: would also like to stress that "no," "nah" or "eeeeeh, no thanks, I'm good" are all totally acceptable answers to the trade I am proposing. :)

Quiet Feet fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Aug 28, 2022

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EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

Quiet Feet posted:

Yup! Complete draft swap.

Edit: fwiw, all the mocks I've been doing put a slew of players I want in reach of me around the 1st/2nd round turn. This shortens the window for me while I think still leaving plenty of the players I'm looking at still available.

I’m not even sure what to make of it. I suppose I like two picks being closer together, as I have it… so I declined.

Can’t wait for you to take my guy at 17. Making me a sad dad immediately.

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