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What is EVE Online? Variously described as “Spreadsheets in space”, “A worst-in-class PvE experience”, “Sociopaths Online”, and “The game for the Nerds who are to Nerds what Nerds are to Normal People”; EVE Online is a nineteen year old sci-fi sandbox MMO published by vikings from an island that smells, by all accounts, of farts and rotting fish. Despite their best efforts to the contrary and their well-earned forum emote ( ), Eve continues to be one of the most compelling experiences in MMO gameplay. Eve is unique in its single-sharded world. In other MMOs, servers are sharded to help balance load and otherwise scale the game. Eve takes place on a single server (unless you live in China.) Because of this, every mistake you make and every enemy you make are there to haunt you forever. Friendships and rivalries in Eve do not disappear, making things like “politics” and “diplomacy” actually matter. That game takes place in a fully realised sci-fi universe, consisting of thousands of solar systems, interlinked by a web of interstellar jump-gates and divided into multiple zones:
This cycle of creative-destruction, and the ability to trade game time purchased for real money as an in-game commodity, creates a vibrant and meaningful sense of consequence and value. Here's a recent trailer showing an FC that bears a striking resemblence to Asher Elias and some decently accurate depictions of modern eve fights (and good music). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78mIgZDJZew Why should I play EVE Online? Peeps, I ask this question to myself every day. I've played eve since 2007, been in Goonswarm/Goonswarm Federation since 2010, been in charge of alliance reimbursement since 2011, and been continuously subscribed the entire time. Why? Why the hell am I putting myself in constant contact with lazy bums who can't be bothered to read a simple set of rules, log into jabber, or otherwise somehow expect their entire gaming experience to be curated and catered to their every whim? I think it's because in addition to the beauty of the game (recently updated with new textures, graphics, and dx12), it's depth, the single sharded aspect, and the deeply social aspects. It’s rewarding in the depth and complexity of its mechanics; the breadth of experiences (some intended by the developers, many not), and the single-sharded aspect means that your decisions and choices matter. Develop a reputation for dumpstering the alliance's wealth, and never live it down. It’s the only game where War-Leader, Diplomat, Industrial Monopolist, Combat Photographer, Scam Artist, Day Trader, Messianic Cult Figure, Long-Haul trucker, Provocateur, Propagandist, and Spy are roles fully fleshed out and engaged in meaningful competition. Mastery of a role takes curiosity, skill, and dedication. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0 At its core, what really makes EVE is that it is a deeply social experience. Reliable friends and knowledgeable mentors make the most daunting challenges manageable. Jealousy, greed, and bitter rivalries create struggle and competition more meaningful than any game designer can script. The ever evolving tapestry of nebulous trust, rank betrayals, and alliances of convenience is one of the richest histories and mythologies in videogames. This is one of the few games that I regularly log into jabber and mumble to hang out with people just because they are my people, not because I plan to actually do anything in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc Let's see, what's been added to Eve since the last time you may have played:
MOD EDIT : As of Mid-July 2022, Goonswarm Federation is no longer affiliated with Something Awful. The below is kept for historical purposes, and should be seen in no way as an endorsement of Goonswarm, Goonwaffe, etc. If you're looking for a group to join, I'd check out the second post in this thread. Yeah, I can't really recommend any particular group in Eve right now. The up-to-a-few-days-ago defacto SA organization, Goonswarm Federation, is undergoing some things right now as they grapple with what kind of organization they want to be as it pertains to harassment of minority groups. Those reforms are in draft and have yet to be published. Organizational leadership shuffles are in flux and who knows what the result will be. As new organizations are created and other organizations are reformed, I'll adjust here in consultation with the moderators and some others. For now, I just recommend sitting back and reading a thread that went from something like 8 pages to 96 in 4 days. Goonswarm Federation: GoonWaffe What is GoonWaffe? lol, and dare I say it, lmao. I'm not going to whisper sweet nothings into your ear while fingering your butthole like Querns did. Goonwaffe is a shell of a corporation that serves as the defacto holding corporation for the entire alliance. Goon logistics, ship replacement, industry, and fleet command hangers run through this corp. Anyone who is anyone space important in the alliance no matter what corporation they originally came from probably has an alt in Goonwaffe to be able to do their space job. There is no formal "corporate" leadership, no mentorship program, and nobody there to hold your hand at the corporate level. That's not to say there are not distinct advantages such as:
If you want Goonwaffe to work for you, you need to join an alliance SIG (special interest group) or Social group. Or be a solitary bushido warrior like this guy: Some of the currently active groups:
Is There Some Sort Of Manual? The Goonwiki is one of the most complete guides to EVE online. GoonWaffe FAQ: IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING NOT COVERED HERE EMAIL newbies@goonfleet.com What are the requirements to join GoonWaffe?
Go read this helpful wiki entry, and it will guide you through the steps to join! Are you Vacationed and want to come back to GoonWaffe?? (This means your forum group says Vacationer or Member on GF.com) https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101 can also help you! Follow the steps for Process B or C, whichever applies to you. Against All The Odds I'm In Now What? Yet again, there is a wiki page full of helpful advice. Key amongst these is to follow the advice on how to crack Eve's unwillingness to let you talk to others and open the GS_Help channel. What's Eve 2022 like? If you aren't aware we pretty much won a giant war of attrition lasting over a year against 3/4 of the rest of eve. We unjustifiably found ourselves in a position we'd rather not be in... but... you know... We got out of that war with a massive numbers advantage in supercarriers and titans, and we've been using that edge to wave some BDE at anyone that thinks to come in range of our tantrum radius. This is because Eve "promoted" the dipshit that drove Dust 514 into the ground as the Eve product manager, and he's uniquely unsuited for the position. As a result, nobody is currently building supercarriers and titans, so our numbers advantage remains just that for the immediate and near future. One of CCP's more boneheaded decisions was to inject PI into the building of battleships, supercarriers and titans. "Wyverns made of water" while a funny meme, has more than a drop or two of truth to it. So we spent the first few quarters of the year cleaning out the trash in the closest southeast regions of the map. I think we burned down everything in like 3 or 4 regions. Right as that was wrapping up, PAPI made the mistake of poking one of our allies, so we've tantrum deployed the entire Imperium on top of FI.RE coalition and are purging them from the map. PAPI promptly and unironically declared all of FI.RE coalition to be a floodplain and have been "vigorously advancing to the rear." So technically we are at war... in much the same way that one could compare the extinction of the dodo to a war. Somebody fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jul 18, 2022 |
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ASAPI posted:I need someone to let me know when we get a quote out of this war that is better than: The funny thing is that quote is actually true. Legacy alliances did get systems in all three regions and they drank the kool-aid SO HARD that they moved all their stuff there. So when we exploded out of 1DQ1 did we not only destroy or lock into asset safety a large amount of their hard assets, the ensuing trail of tears to the drone regions beggared their liquid reserves.
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CainFortea posted:The fact that Over Reaction Coalition (ORC) failed is a travesty and Mittens should be flogged for it. I liked Mothra more than FatBee.
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Dik Hz posted:How many times have we conquered Delve at this point? 4? Depends on if you count out last regoonquista after we broke papi. Round #1: Original bob beatdown Round #2: Height of the northern empire when we controlled Vale to Querious and jump bridges from end to end. Round #3: lol Honeybadger coalition. Breaking of Test Mk I Round #4: casino war refugees. Took it from fawlty’s furry alliance (happy bday!) Round #5: Beeitnam regoonquista. We broke Test, again.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:It's a custom on eve bot related public forums to choose the name of a well-known Eve personality when making your otherwise anonymous account, by the way. While I'd believe that Innominate or, really, anyone was botting c. 2011 or so, because basically everyone was, 2018 is a harder pill to swallow. Botting was, in 2018 (and still is now,) a huge lightning rod -- it's essentially unfathomable that anyone with even the slightest public face would expose themselves to such needless risk. The reward isn't worth it. Yeah it’s not unusual for anyone who played eve in 2011 to have been smacked by CCP for h-bot usage. I finally got the flag on a few of my older accounts lifted in like 2020 after one of CCP’s mass warnings/bans/wallet drains from that period. That time period was pre-anomaly. You belt ratted and groomed the spawns in tedious as gently caress monotony.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2022 14:00 |
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Honestly, me either. The whole screed reeked of word salad. I don't even know who the "director" who instigated this whole thing is. I’ll try to keep this high level… Girl gamer has issues with a creeper. It bubbles up to a callout thread in the forums. Person called out does a thread of his own where he quickly dove straight to “all of you are named in my suicide note” level of unstable. Standard goon protocol is initiated where threads are locked/hidden and all parties ejected to cool down while “top men” attempt to figure out wtf. Standard goon protocol is not a good look in 2022, so drama ensues. As “top men” sort through details girl gamer is unbanned. But directors trying to control dumpster fires in elysium and forums squeeze hard and break a fnln. Again. There’s nuances around what was reported when and different interpretations of what was actionable and what was even being asked for. I’m not getting into any of that because I have no interest in timelines or the sad details of people’s lives. My personal takeaway is that we have a bureaucracy designed to efficiently do things in space. It’s not designed around handling social drama. Cryo has plans within plans to make things better there and I personally think he cares enough about the issue to make marked improvements if some of the more chaotic neutral deltas give the man time to work. andromache fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jul 10, 2022 |
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Baculus posted:also jokes about my wife are fine for the funny cool people of delta who know me I was drunk as gently caress the night you told the piss wagon story but not that drunk. The imagery is SEARED into my brain.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:if you had any clue as to the degree of information siloing that happens in leadership you'd realize how silly this is That’s the part that I take a bit of offense to with Aldani’s “I told literally every director” bit. Because no you loving didn’t. I’m vaguely aware of who she was as being in charge of like sirenswarm and social groups in general, but the claims in her reddit post were the first I’d heard of them. I’m in charge of reimbursement and participation metrics. Cryo and I have apparently been bequeathed joint custody of delta squad while kazanir is the drunk uncle from Arkansas who shows up to feed the kids energy drinks and bourbon then passes out on the couch. I generally don’t stray out of my box unless something intersects my personal interests, which for some reason trying to stop delta from donning a saffron robe and setting themselves ablaze is a personal interest. But I was not aware of aldani’s problems and my pc being logged into jabber while I’m at work or sleeping does not constitute being told. So there’s a fair amount of hyperbole and over generalization going on here that is not warranted, fair, or accurate.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 14:43 |
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Furnok Dorn posted:i mean aldani posted receipts in the reddit thread of who she conplained to so Is it somewhere further down in the thread because the OP just says “despite telling literally all of illum.” (I never got past the OP because I was like “well that’s loving bullshit” and closed it)
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learnincurve posted:this is always how it's going to go with this lovely complaints system designed by unaccountable men. One person is out the loop and then gets incredibly hurt and automatically defends their palls. Yes, by asking people to be accurate in their claims I’m defending my pals. Must be very nice to live in your kindergarten crayola world. You are making this post from your tower in Atlantis aka Bolivia aren’t you.
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Sickening posted:So you are just going to skip reading about an incident because someone didn't know how space important you are? This is a good look. How is that anything like what I said. Not choosing to go further in a Reddit thread because the OP was going for the sensational emotional splash instead of factual accuracy is always the right call for media consumption. - social or traditional. Don’t fall for the clickbait.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 15:28 |
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Do you mean that Yangchen Tang thing? Was he a director? Honest question, I have no idea who exactly is in leadership ITYOOL 2022 because I haven't logged into Jabber in months. Yogizh sent some dumbass corpmails like a year ago. Some like identify as an attack helicopter poo poo and some alt right YouTube link. But because he wasn’t publicly executed for it, people keep hanging onto it. I have no idea if he was privately disciplined for it or not, but fairly certain the policy isn’t to discuss that poo poo publicly anyway.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 15:34 |
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Ynglaur posted:Real question: would it be useful if the Imperium had something like abuse at goonfleet dot com as the dedicated channel for people to report they are being harassed in-game or on imperium platforms? There was a lot of discussion over the weekend on process changes to make sure complaints are read, investigated, and responded to in a timely manner. Doesn’t mean they will be resolved to everyone’s satisfaction - you still run into claims that cannot be substantiated or instances where everyone involved is a terrible person, but should at least fix the nobody responded to me stuff.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 16:11 |
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raminasi posted:I'm not personally connected to any of this but I gotta say that the trigger-happy, intentionally bellicose persona you've been proudly and publicly cultivating for the past, what, decade? would make you the absolute last director I'd seek out with anything that doesn't fall directly within your explicit portfolio. Maybe the co-leader of Sirenswarm or whatever should have known something I don't, but to the general populace you are the exact polar opposite of a "come to me with any problems you have!" kinda guy. It’s my imperium persona but it’s very much not my delta persona as most people in this thread will agree. I inherited reimbursement from Khefron and when initially hired I resolved to be a kinder, gentler, customer focused director than how Khefron ran the org. I promptly realized Khefron was right, goons are loving terrible, and developed some very spiky thorns to dissuade anyone from bothering me unless they absolutely had their ducks in a loving row. And yes raminasi that’s why I was upset with the literally everyone in illum comment, because I’m the loud bellicose guy who will absolutely unapologetically fight you if your poo poo isn’t correct, there’s another 30 or 40 gsol subdirectors, diplos, recon, and procurement people who have absolutely nothing to do with this poo poo that have been unfairly painted with that brush. For example, did aldani mean to include Mirana Balari in her accusation? Because she did, the way it was written. That’s why I’m so goddamn adamant about accuracy, because there are some problems but they aren’t going to be fixed with over generalization.
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learnincurve posted:are you angry enough about it to go into your own house and ask the people there who knew, and who are the problem people making the rest of you look bad? I was concerned enough about how this incident and a few others were handled that I contributed quite a bit to the process improvement discussion cryo was leading. I don’t know where it all landed because I’m posting on my phone when I should be working, but I was involved in the process improvement piece. And yes, this poo poo is hard. It’s like in the Reddit thread where people are like hurr hurr SRP in 3 min. SRP or market fuckery are easy and cut and dried. Social poo poo is hard. We’ve had success cleaning up the gamer words because again that poo poo is easily unacceptable. But even last night delta had to educate an Eastern European guy on why Gypsy was a bad word. That’s why evidence and substantiation is important because I do think most people want to be fair. And because there is so much subjectivity involved on whether an individual felt they were harassed and the other person’s intent on a particular incident there’s a tendency to want a lot of evidence to try and determine a pattern of behavior over time. andromache fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Dalael posted:I don't want to cause any poo poo, but I would also like an education about why the word Gypsy is bad. It's a word I'm mostly familiar with due to fantasy settings (Ie: the vistani's in the Ravenloft world) but do not know why its a bad term. If anyone either wants to post it here or simply dm me, i'd like to know. If you want to easily bait out Europeans, wait until they are ranting about fascist Americans who use the N word and ask them about the Roma. Then you are likely to get all kinds of “but they aren’t actually people and are thief trash that steal children” hilarity.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 17:08 |
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Tsed posted:idk why anyone assumes the punishment for "things that might be up for some interpretation because we're all kinda weird nerds" has to be banning. Often times the response that leadership wants to make is like “dude, just loving sincerely apologize we don’t want to ban you.” The dude dropping f****t in fleet chat started that way. Tried going down the route of “you were drunk, we get it, your inner issues came out, apologize and do better next time.” Next thing you know we’ve banned the guy, he was removed, corp quits the alliance to go rescue their bigot. Oh and all the while delta is making GBS threads themselves and flinging poo because they don’t have any trust poo poo was being handled. Which tends to go back to my main role in trying to feed them enough info to try and keep them from totally losing their poo poo while not violating illum disclosure rules. All because what should be the mature responsible thing to do is all too often not what people actually do. And when it rises to the level of banning people, I, personally, do think that’s the kind of thing that should be well documented somewhere. I’m not really comfortable with just an “aww trust me grin and a license to ban” for anyone. The ironic part is I’ve been through the army’s victim advocate course. I’ve also been through the sexual assault response coordinator training. Process-wise I know what should work and that’s how I tried to influence the processes the org is going to put in place. But because of the poo poo I’ve had to deal with irl for that, no loving way I’m going to volunteer to help with it in my escape hobby. I step in and fix what I witness personally, but zero interest in arbitrating that stuff. I’ll help engineer the process but otherwise I don’t want to know.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:lol the revolving cast of defense sent in bill? thats a worse idea than yogizh coming to defend himself I wish I could make this the thread title.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:im still dyin that bill of all people is handling uh HR complaints I’m guessing this started as an Amok/corporation level which would be why bill was involved.
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Potato Salad posted:Who the actual gently caress is bringing up Romani We had a confused Eastern European who said something involving the G word. And then when we explained why it was bad he was like “no no no you guys are talking about Pikeys.” Just a regular night in delta.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 20:27 |
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Potato Salad posted:I used to own a top-20 population Minecraft server (we were donation only and strictly avoided the microtransaction horseshit other communities developed) and, not gonna lie, when this kind of stuff happened my policy was to indiscriminately lock everyone involved, wait for law enforcement (usually the law never got involved effectively on behalf of victims, yay America) and unlock someone after sitting on everyone's accounts of what happened for a good few days. I mean we indiscriminately locked (banned) everyone involved which is what led to this issue. Policies developed for nerd guys slapfighting on the internet don’t really work when it gets into SH/SA poo poo.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 20:34 |
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/152933-ban-bfm-ban-dbrb/ all bfms posts got super nuked by solo because he posted nudes of his "conquests" in i think the rho? or theta? forum but most of his posts in that thread got quoted Reading deadtear and aztecd going at each other brings back memories. Forum unites to tell dbrb to shut the gently caress up. Some things never change.
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gadgethugs posted:Even delta sqad doesn't want moderate away the usage of that gamer word. I can’t think of the last time I saw it in delta. I personally gave it up two or three years ago when I successfully mentally swapped it with dipshit. Now the dipshits flow without any slight pause or mental switch with the urge to use the old word. Because not calling stupid people names would be too hard.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2022 23:18 |
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Ynglaur posted:I don't think that's what Adj is saying. I think he's saying "there are people who control alliance infrastructure who would be hard to replace, so there are circumstances in which we'd need to rebuild said infrastructure from scratch. It's a problem that goes further than this issue." I believe he's implying that we should have succession plans, but I'm bad at inferring intent in others. We have multiple women in illum and several other minorities and nationalities. The thing is however that illum is heavily siloed and due to kismeteer in the past getting into everybody else’s space business people are encouraged to stay focused on their box. We will need a culture change in illum that safety/harassment is everyone’s box. Which I think is a good suggestion I’ll carry forward but I can definitely say that’s not a thing currently there.
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Feliday Melody posted:Could you tell this story? Rydis walked dogs for a living and took poo poo from no man. She was bae.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Yeah, it's one of the more creative fuckgoons I've seen in the decade and change I've been paying attention to the game. Most people just steal stuff. It’s one of the most petty and passive aggressive things I never would have thought to do. In other words, peak kismeteer.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Dude, don’t leave us hanging. Xenuria was murdered and buried by Calanthe and Liquidium in that thread. And he’s probably too loving dense to realize it.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:shoulda banned him like i asked for years Dude I tried. I thought I was pretty good at bullying people and I just bounced off him like a beach ball.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:i got him banned because he annoyed me and solo wouldnt make him stop or let me stop him so when darius got hired by ccp i reminded him about elusif the RMTer(which if he wasnt an insanely jaundiced alcoholic he would have remembered himself), whole bunch of people got their wallets negatived because of it and it was hilarious The only “ban for who one is” I can think of was that time you made a comment about banning bronies, and a few posts later a guy with a bronie avatar was like “but I’m a bronie” and zap. I think I was mostly just shocked how the guy just walked right up to you to get shot.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:There's at least one woman at the top of the org, but just from what I remember from that particular person's personality (a take six years old at this point) I doubt she'd ever want to go to the CSM. Really, there's almost no will at the top of the org for ANYONE to go to the CSM. I was never interested in it myself, either, FWIW. CSM candidacy has almost always been about who was willing to go, rather than people being specifically excluded due to $FACTOR_ONE or $FACTOR_TWO. We would send Mirana in a heartbeat if she showed the slightest interest. If we tried to do this, she would murder us all. Smart and formidable.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2022 15:18 |
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andromache posted:We would send Mirana in a heartbeat if she showed the slightest interest. I think there are somewhere between 3-5 women in illum right now? I’m probably the worst person to ask as I don’t hop on comms a bunch and gender/sexuality isn’t like a thing I care about. Are you competent at your job and do you waste my time with idiocy are my languages of love.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2022 15:22 |
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:lol the thread title This is where I come home from work and find I’ve been banned because some chud thinks the OP can edit the thread title. I guess at this point I won’t be too upset about it
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2022 21:19 |
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Potato Salad posted:"Chuds not understanding how things work" wouldn't exactly be novel in this hypothetical scenario That’s why I believe it to be an entirely plausible scenario my friend.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2022 21:35 |
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corgski posted:I don't think anyone's coming for people who were lovely over a decade ago. People change. How's the dog? The dog died years ago you monster.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2022 21:36 |
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Frank Frank posted:I think there’s a thing going on here where goons mixed with alt-right weirdos back in the day because “ironic” bigotry was a lot more socially acceptable back then. I doubt many goons (even in 2008) even considered that some of the slur shouting etc wasn’t ironic. I didn’t. We’re all old now. Perspective is a hell of a thing and as it turns out if you’re ironically a bigot for long enough, you become an actual bigot - also no one else can tell the difference or will care to make a distinction between the two anymore. At this point my sense of edgy nostalgia is referring to lady scarlet with all the gravitas she deserves.
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NtotheTC posted:So, I'm really confused. Some mouthbreathing chud stumbled into the thread, boohoo-ed about "wokeness", changed the thread title to "quit goons" (presumably against his lord and master mittani's wishes) and then the OP got banned from GSF because they thought he did it? No you big dookie. I’m posting on my phone from work completely expecting to go back to my hotel to find I’ve been banned because some incompetent believes I did it.
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I got a good chuckle from that too
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:I doubt they, like, banned me or anything. I got caught up in one of the regular-rear end purges they do to goonwaffe every once in a while. Hell, andromache probably did it personally, cackling and steepling his fingers with a glint in his eye. Confirmed. I do quarterly purges that the only thing you need to do to avoid are 1) make a post in the last 60 days OR 2) connect to jabber in the last 60 days OR 3) connect to mumble in the last 60 days Querns did none so welp.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2022 04:12 |
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Bob Socko posted:It’s all good, I’m referring to Atrum apparently getting banned from the GF forums because they thought he change the thread title here. i wasn't. i was saying i would not be surprised if some incompetent was unaware that the OP of a thread cannot edit the title, and thus would ban me. I'm not banned.
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Omon Ra posted:Holy poo poo. Am I correct in understanding that Delta Sqad was fully aware of stalking, transphobia and other bigotry in GSF, yet elected to remain part of it for years? Please tell me that's not the case and I'm misunderstanding. No. You are not correct. But I’m too tired to type out all of the ways you are wrong. Edit: what Dalmuti said
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