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Nobody Interesting posted:I'm not the greatest Tolkien scholar on the planet, but... isn't it? It depends quite a bit on your definition of medieval as well, it's a vague term that means different things to different people. It originally meant whenever Rome went away (in your area, which differs a lot) to the Early Modern Period, circa 1450, but now that Late Antiquity is stretching later and later in Western European studies, Medieval seems to mean 1000 onwards. Which still includes most of this stuff mind you. That said I agree with you, and I have no idea what that person is trying to argue.
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Something like this perhaps:Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, the travel through middle earth is basically a trip backwards through English history, starting in the quaint Regency, moving back through Elrond'd high medieval House, then the dark ages of Moria, weird Celtic elves, Saxon Rohirrim, and Minas Tirith as Roman Britain on the verge of fall.
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Szmitten posted:I'd like to see other shows numbers for completion rates since I think you'd be very surprised at how often people don't finish things. I think expecting half the audience to finish anything is impossible for any show or any medium (eg video game metrics always have completion rates of less than 10%) Bit late to this discussion but I saw this posted on the WoT subreddit a while ago. I don't know how to actually verify it but it doesn't exactly surprise me.  https://www.reddit.com/r/WoTshow/comments/12dktht/wot_viewership_retention_rate_vs_rop_per_digitali/
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I think the biggest issue you could have with the costuming is that if you are laying the groundwork for a sprawling fantasy land, the costumes/armor should logically emerge from whatever rules you’ve set for the cultures and societies present and their respective level of technological advancement. Rings of Power doesn’t really do this.
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sitchensis posted:I think the biggest issue you could have with the costuming is that if you are laying the groundwork for a sprawling fantasy land, the costumes/armor should logically emerge from whatever rules you’ve set for the cultures and societies present and their respective level of technological advancement. Rings of Power doesn’t really do this.
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pik_d posted:Bit late to this discussion but I saw this posted on the WoT subreddit a while ago. I don't know how to actually verify it but it doesn't exactly surprise me. The prospect of WoT outperforming a LotR property in a global setting regardless of anything but name alone and the continuing lack of a source for either dataset makes this utterly absurd to me.
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We all remember the Tolkien deep lore where Elrond hosts the ill fated talk show, Numenor Nightly.
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CLAM DOWN posted:didn't think this show could get worse, but lol I am so excited to watch season 2 even more high than season 1
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"I have to go now, my planet needs me" "Wait, Celebrimbor was from a different planet?"
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CLAM DOWN posted:didn't think this show could get worse, but lol Are you sure that THIS show... With THESE show runners... Would be WORSE?
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This is happening with most productions that were midway through when the strike was announced. RoP is faring better than most, given that they only have 19 days left in a roughly 300 day shoot. Many other shows will be shot entirely without the writers present.
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So what's the deal with improvisation? Is there a legal cap on how much an actor is allowed to do before they become classified as a writer? Are they allowed to do anything now that the writers aren't present? And I assume the suits will still try and guide the narrative construction process in their own way too.
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HOTD is also continuing without writers, but I imagine both project will get shut down as other sectors of the entertainment industry go on strike too, not just writers.
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drunkill posted:HOTD is also continuing without writers, but I imagine both project will get shut down as other sectors of the entertainment industry go on strike too, not just writers. HOTD's a special case since it's part of a franchise that's already centered around a writer that refuses to write
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YaketySass posted:HOTD's a special case since it's part of a franchise that's already centered around a writer that refuses to write Maybe if the Jets finally have a winning season.
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Open Source Idiom posted:So what's the deal with improvisation? They've gone full community theater: "Give us a vegetable, a gemstone, and a king of Numenor. Ok, now here's a scene of a hobbit thief confusing a greengrocer with the royal vaults."
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WoodrowSkillson posted:those producers sucked rear end that can only be an improvement They still set up the show, and direction of the scripts, that they're shooting. All this means is that they can't do a rewrite on set if they find something is wrong. Whether that rewrite would happen, or would be better or worse than the "problem" they'd find, is beside the point. It's not like this means they throw out the scripts and just wing it now. It's still the same show, just with no chance to "fix" any issues that come up. But as some one earlier pointed out, they're almost done shooting anyway, so this likely won't make much of an impact anyway.
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thrawn527 posted:They still set up the show, and direction of the scripts, that they're shooting. All this means is that they can't do a rewrite on set if they find something is wrong. it will impact post production and editing and all of that poo poo
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WoodrowSkillson posted:it will impact post production and editing and all of that poo poo They’re still allowed to oversee post production. They aren’t allowed to participate in anything that would involve writing new lines or content, thus why they can’t be present for cameras rolling.
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Dawgstar posted:Maybe if the Jets finally have a winning season. Now this is some fantasy writing.
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Bugblatter posted:They’re still allowed to oversee post production. They aren’t allowed to participate in anything that would involve writing new lines or content, thus why they can’t be present for cameras rolling. nevermind thought we got lucky
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Hexel posted:ROP will probably improve without writers present tbh
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BoldFace posted:"I'm good" literally one of the best parts lmao
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BoldFace posted:"I'm good" I tried to explain this moment to someone who gave up after the first episode, and could not get through it without laughing. Is the magic man good or bad? I hope he tells us, we’ve been wondering.
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CLAM DOWN posted:didn't think this show could get worse, but lol I mean they only have like a week left in production, so I imagine this isn't as bad as it could be.
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Yeah, compared to Andor which will do its entire shoot without showrunners, RoP is in a relatively good position for the strike. Shame because I really want Andor to match the quality of its first half… whereas I mostly watch RoP for the images and the writers being absent is just whatever.
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Bugblatter posted:Yeah, compared to Andor which will do its entire shoot without showrunners, RoP is in a relatively good position for the strike. Andor has been shooting for a few months now. I don't know how much more they have left to shoot, but they certainly will have had show runners for a good chunk of it.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Andor has been shooting for a few months now. I don't know how much more they have left to shoot, but they certainly will have had show runners for a good chunk of it. Ah, you’re right. They started at the end of November with filming expected to conclude at the end of August. That’s still around half of the production without a show runner if the strike doesn’t end quickly.
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Data Graham posted:Maybe they'll make a prequel to Andor It's time for the story of Maarva
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