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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Sombrerotron posted:

Whoops. I don't think I actually put it inside the tag myself, but I should've checked before hitting Submit Reply.

Yes this is Something Awful not Reddit, we expect a higher quality of grammar you neanderthal

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Although I found the idea of the Dashade silly I did enjoy using him to threaten people with being eaten.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Dick Trauma posted:

Although I found the idea of the Dashade silly I did enjoy using him to threaten people with being eaten.

How dare you speak ill of Khem Val. He's the best, and has the best romance in the game

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




i do not want to gently caress Khem Val

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

CLAM DOWN posted:

i do not want to gently caress Khem Val

He will consume you little Sith

Ego Trip
Aug 28, 2012

A tenacious little mouse!


Medullah posted:

He will consume your little Sith

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
Yeah I'm doing inquisitor class story, and I like him more than I thought I would.


Ashara can take a flying gently caress at the nearest star though.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Error 404 posted:

Yeah I'm doing inquisitor class story, and I like him more than I thought I would.


Ashara can take a flying gently caress at the nearest star though.

She's the best in her class, you know

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




I'm playing both agent and jedi knight alts right now, because 1) I wanted to do a dark side story on the agent and it's ruthless and awesome, and 2) I wanted to bring a force user through KOTFE/KOTET and read that the JK was the best one to do that with as the story was basically written for them.

My trooper/vanguard is still my favourite character all around though, and I guess my main.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


i'm very glad they've made it possible to do any of the force/tech user specs on any character. when i play my smuggler is very satisfying to play with the sniper abilities. I know that there is a mirror'd spec for smuggler but it feels much more satisfying to do it with a big gun

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

i'm very glad they've made it possible to do any of the force/tech user specs on any character. when i play my smuggler is very satisfying to play with the sniper abilities. I know that there is a mirror'd spec for smuggler but it feels much more satisfying to do it with a big gun

I'm kind of tempted to play a sniper trooper, but I've already played that story twice and don't really want to do it again. But I like knowing that I can now

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Ainsley McTree posted:

I'm kind of tempted to play a sniper trooper, but I've already played that story twice and don't really want to do it again. But I like knowing that I can now

In the outfitter, you can also use blaster rifles and sniper rifles interchangeably.

Suppressive fire with a blaster rifle is hella trooper for the record.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Error 404 posted:

In the outfitter, you can also use blaster rifles and sniper rifles interchangeably.

Suppressive fire with a blaster rifle is hella trooper for the record.

Wait wait wait. I can be a sniper combat style, have a sniper rifle equipped, but use a regular blaster rifle in the outfitter??? They don't have to match?!

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

CLAM DOWN posted:

Wait wait wait. I can be a sniper combat style, have a sniper rifle equipped, but use a regular blaster rifle in the outfitter??? They don't have to match?!

Yep! Sadly the same isn't true with Commandos, they can't use blaster rifles in outfitter, but that's because some of their abilities require an assault cannon, whereas all sniper abilities can be done with a blaster rifle.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Medullah posted:

Yep! Sadly the same isn't true with Commandos, they can't use blaster rifles in outfitter, but that's because some of their abilities require an assault cannon, whereas all sniper abilities can be done with a blaster rifle.

There was a period that I think got patched out where you technically could play commando with a blaster rifle, you just did something like 25% less damage (and maybe there were some abilities you couldn't use, I can't remember, but none that you really needed to beat the solo content). Obviously a rude thing to do if you're trying to dps group stuff but solo content was easy enough to do if you had too much free time and valued aesthetics over performance

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Ainsley McTree posted:

There was a period that I think got patched out where you technically could play commando with a blaster rifle, you just did something like 25% less damage (and maybe there were some abilities you couldn't use, I can't remember, but none that you really needed to beat the solo content). Obviously a rude thing to do if you're trying to dps group stuff but solo content was easy enough to do if you had too much free time and valued aesthetics over performance

It's the same as it always was. There are certain abilities that you can't use with a rifle (Hail of Bolts, Charged Bolts and uhhh the pub version of Rocket Out), and yeah you do less damage, but that's fine for story content if you want to RP. Healing Commandos can use a rifle and barely notice, Gunnery just doesn't have Hail of Bolts as an AOE option, and Assault Specialist is crippled because they rely on Charged Bolts for their rotation.

grah
Jul 26, 2007
brainsss

Medullah posted:

It's the same as it always was. There are certain abilities that you can't use with a rifle (Hail of Bolts, Charged Bolts and uhhh the pub version of Rocket Out), and yeah you do less damage, but that's fine for story content if you want to RP. Healing Commandos can use a rifle and barely notice, Gunnery just doesn't have Hail of Bolts as an AOE option, and Assault Specialist is crippled because they rely on Charged Bolts for their rotation.


Yeah in 6.x I would frequently commando heal with a blaster rifle because I was too lazy to move augs every time someone wanted to do a pubsie raid. It didn't really impair them at all.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Medullah posted:

Yep! Sadly the same isn't true with Commandos, they can't use blaster rifles in outfitter, but that's because some of their abilities require an assault cannon, whereas all sniper abilities can be done with a blaster rifle.

hell yes, this vastly improved my agent!

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


I could've sworn there was a period where you could use hail of bolts with a blaster rifle, because I definitely played commando that way and remembered thinking that the animation looked cooler than with an assault cannon. That's the channeled rapid fire ability, right? Maybe I'm just getting the ability names mixed up.

grah posted:

Yeah in 6.x I would frequently commando heal with a blaster rifle because I was too lazy to move augs every time someone wanted to do a pubsie raid. It didn't really impair them at all.

But yeah that's how I found out about it, I did a flashpoint with a commando healer with a blaster rifle and questioned their choices and received an education. Seems like it matters less for healers, but probably a rude thing to do if you're dpsing

Ainsley McTree fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Jan 30, 2023

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
Yeah I made a trooper commander shepard clone (jennifer hale :love:) with sniper/operative and just use the same blaster rifle for both via outfitter.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Ainsley McTree posted:

I could've sworn there was a period where you could use hail of bolts with a blaster rifle, because I definitely played commando that way and remembered thinking that the animation looked cooler than with an assault cannon. That's the channeled rapid fire ability, right? Maybe I'm just getting the ability names mixed up.

But yeah that's how I found out about it, I did a flashpoint with a commando healer with a blaster rifle and questioned their choices and received an education. Seems like it matters less for healers, but probably a rude thing to do if you're dpsing

Are you thinking of Unload/Full Auto? That's the single target channeled blast, Commandos used to have it but it was made Vanguard only in 4.0 or 5.0

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

You have to subscribe to change styles huh

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
Yeah but I believe you just have to subscribe for one month and it's unlocked permanently. I'm pretty new though so a veteran might know better

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Field Mousepad posted:

Yeah but I believe you just have to subscribe for one month and it's unlocked permanently. I'm pretty new though so a veteran might know better

Maybe if you subbed after they added it, but as a Preferred player from way back I ain't got poo poo.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Field Mousepad posted:

Yeah but I believe you just have to subscribe for one month and it's unlocked permanently. I'm pretty new though so a veteran might know better

You can't have both active as a F2P or Preferred. If you subscribe once to unlock the option for a second combat style you have to remember to stay in the one you want when you're sub expires, you can't swap back and forth as F2P or Preferred.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

:siren: For anyone requiring any information about any possible SWTOR-related subject at all, I feel I would be very much remiss if I did not mention Swtorista's updated Guide of Guides (I also added it to the OP). Surely one of the 2800+ guides listed there should contain the answer to your question? :siren:

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Soooooooo if you haven't spent much/any time on PvP recently but are desperate for those PvP Season rewards, you can now unlock the first 15 levels (out of 25 total) for credits. Each level you unlock with credits increases the cost of the next, so it helps if you've already got a few levels - although on the other hand maybe you want to just spend it all on getting to level 15 and save actual effort for the rest, since it's not possible to use credits for any of the subsequent levels and the season ends in just under a month? Getting from 0 to 15 will supposedly set you back a little less than 1 billion credits, which isn't that bad by today's standards.

As always, Swtorista's got more details for you.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Someone give me 1b credits pls

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

CLAM DOWN posted:

Someone give me 1b credits pls

You can make a billion credits in a couple hours of playing these days. Run a couple Ops in pick up groups on the fleet (most often is Dread Palace and Dread Fortress, run together, takes about an hour). That will get you enough tech fragments to buy a couple OEM-13 or RPM-13 mats from the spoils of war vendor, which sell for 150-200 million credits. There's no more weeklong lockouts so you can run that every day.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Oh poo poo good call, I'm capped on tech fragments and forgot about those!

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

Medullah posted:

You can make a billion credits in a couple hours of playing these days. Run a couple Ops in pick up groups on the fleet (most often is Dread Palace and Dread Fortress, run together, takes about an hour). That will get you enough tech fragments to buy a couple OEM-13 or RPM-13 mats from the spoils of war vendor, which sell for 150-200 million credits. There's no more weeklong lockouts so you can run that every day.

Yeah I'm pulling in a bout a billion a week doing nothing but selling 2 OEM's every other day from PvP'ing. I'm at ~75 billion in my Legacy and another ~20 billion spread around characters with nothing really to spend it on.

I'm surprised they took Amplifiers out of the game, a consequence of simplifying I suppose, cause they were a fabulous credit sink.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

DrunkenGarbageCan posted:

Yeah I'm pulling in a bout a billion a week doing nothing but selling 2 OEM's every other day from PvP'ing. I'm at ~75 billion in my Legacy and another ~20 billion spread around characters with nothing really to spend it on.

I'm surprised they took Amplifiers out of the game, a consequence of simplifying I suppose, cause they were a fabulous credit sink.

They tripled the price of unlocking Galactic Seasons with credits, which is a smart move and a good credit sink. Same with unlocking PvP seasons, whales with no desire to PvP can unlock 15 of the 25 levels.

Ruhnuk and Manaan have some really nice decorations for credits, and that helps too. So it seems they know they have to get some credit sinks in the game, but man they really need to find something that people want to spend billions at a time on.

The thing that the inflation warriors on Reddit and the forums have a hard time grasping is that nothing has changed in years for credits coming into the economy, the reason everything is expensive now is because they dumped the referral program so people who were getting thousands of cartel coins a month no longer have the CC to buy items on the CM and flip them. Supply and demand, lower supply and prices go up.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

I haven't been doing ops yet because I'm not level 80 yet but I have been doing a ton of flashpoints and I have about 520 million credits I've gotten in like a week.

Currently running through a dark side councilor story and I don't think I've killed as many jedi in any other story.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


maybe i will come back and do some pvp. operative is a Good Time in pvp

e: actually so is whatever the sniper spec that has a billion probes

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Dang 7.2.1 is coming to PTS and for just an incremental update it's going places:

quote:

7.2.1 will mark the beginning of the next Galactic Season - A Passage of Peace. Like previous Seasons, this one will come with a host of new rewards players can earn and will feature a brand new companion, Amity, for players to learn and traverse the galaxy with. Stay tuned for more details on this season and a sneak peek at its rewards!

quote:

Players can then look forward to Season 2 starting with the launch of 7.2.1 where they can earn all new rewards! Similar to Galactic Seasons, stay tuned in the coming weeks as we begin to reveal what these new rewards will be.
And rather pertinently:

quote:

As many longtime players will likely recognize, the credit economy in SWTOR has had some pretty substantial inflation over the years. This makes it challenging for players to engage in our trade economy, especially new players. One of our goals this year is to begin correcting some of our economic inflation. We have a couple of initiatives which will begin in 7.2.1 and expect more changes in future releases throughout the year.
Also logging in during this upcoming PTS phase and completing a Warzone match will net you an Opal Vulptilla! :wow:

edit: whoops it's actually already online so go get your O.V. already!

Sombrerotron fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Feb 9, 2023

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Also apparently PvP Season 2 adds a flippin' set of space samurai armour to the game.

Double Agent
Mar 28, 2005

Maybe we're not just a bunch of frak-ups after all.
The line "Reintroduce credit sinks as some were removed in the past" better be doing a lot of heavy lifting when it comes to inflation because the rest of those changes are only going to put the screws to new/poor players. If you're a multi-billionaire, the rest of the changes mentioned are not going to matter to you at all.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Sombrerotron posted:

Also apparently PvP Season 2 adds a flippin' set of space samurai armour to the game.

also this looks good

https://twitter.com/swtorfashion/status/1623768914160132098

also Andor pistol!!!

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Double Agent posted:

The line "Reintroduce credit sinks as some were removed in the past" better be doing a lot of heavy lifting when it comes to inflation because the rest of those changes are only going to put the screws to new/poor players. If you're a multi-billionaire, the rest of the changes mentioned are not going to matter to you at all.
The thought's occurred to me before that they should institute a tax system where for any given period of time spent in-game, some percentage (dependent on how much you have) of your character's credits is automatically removed.

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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
They need to make some super expensive things that appeal to the people like me. Quick travel costs won't make a dent in the 30 billion I'm sitting on. Things I've suggested in the past

- Another tier or two of Rocket Boost lowering the cooldown even more, insanely expensive.

- Ability to unlock items in collections for an absurd amount of credits, maybe for a limited time.

- Unique titles (I thought of "Bad With Credits" for 15 billion).

- More toys like the clicky on Dantooine that makes you glow gold that costs 150 million

- Ability to purchase additional copies of decorations for absurd amounts of credits

- Ability to unlock mounts that you earned on one character (IE, I got Wings of the Architect on my Operative, for 2 billion I can unlock it on my Assassin)

Things like this would remove massive amounts of credits quickly without affecting the new player experience.

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