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Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

IN THE GRIM BARKNESS
OF THE FUTURE
THERE ARE ONLY DOGS



Nap Ghost

In The Magician King, Quentin Coldwater is given a passport by a small child that serves as Quentin's entry passport into the Fillorian underworld. The passport is confiscated and not returned.

Later, when attempting to cross over to the opposite side of Fillory, the guards deny Quentin entry because the passports are single use.

Does this mean that Quentin will not be able to enter the afterlife at all when he dies, or just the Fillorian afterlife?

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Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003



let's ask the author of the b



ok nope, not asking him. i think it's the latter op. he can't go to the fillorian afterlife. which, in the context of the novel given how it ends, probably isn't that big a deal

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

av paid for by the firensd of lowtax spine foundation

, you flithy pig


Wow, talk about nominative determinism.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Magicians can't be kings it's simply illogical

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009



Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

let's ask the author of the b



ok nope, not asking him. i think it's the latter op. he can't go to the fillorian afterlife. which, in the context of the novel given how it ends, probably isn't that big a deal

yep. that guy is definitely named "lev grossman"

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003



https://i.imgur.com/hbw9lDY.mp4

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"



McGavin posted:

Wow, talk about nominative determinism.

lmfao

NC Wyeth Death Cult
Dec 30, 2005

He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

Let's ask David Peace, author of The Red Riding Hood Quartet what he thinks.

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Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

IN THE GRIM BARKNESS
OF THE FUTURE
THERE ARE ONLY DOGS



Nap Ghost

Are these guys brothers or what?

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die


Nap Ghost

we go now live to Moby for his reaction

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Ugly bald begoggled white men :thunk:

itry
Aug 23, 2019






I heard the books aren't as good as the show

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005




itry posted:

I heard the books aren't as good as the show

The books pretty much focus exclusively on Quentin instead of the more ensemble nature of the show.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

IN THE GRIM BARKNESS
OF THE FUTURE
THERE ARE ONLY DOGS



Nap Ghost

I haven't watched the show yet I'm waiting for my wife to finish the books.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy


Once the show got going I really enjoyed it

itry
Aug 23, 2019






I mostly liked the show. The last season was kinda meh, iirc, but at least it got an ending.

muscles like this! posted:

The books pretty much focus exclusively on Quentin instead of the more ensemble nature of the show.

I thought the books were edgier or something.

Edit: Also that Quentin is insufferable in them, but that's probably the result of being inside the character's head.

itry fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Aug 15, 2022

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019






Buce
Dec 23, 2005



McGavin posted:

Wow, talk about nominative determinism.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?



itry posted:

I mostly liked the show. The last season was kinda meh, iirc, but at least it got an ending.

I thought the books were edgier or something.

Edit: Also that Quentin is insufferable in them, but that's probably the result of being inside the character's head.

I liked how the show had an entire episode trying to convince its watchers that Quentin was NOT the main character despite him the being the one that usually drove the main plot forward, and the character that tied all the other characters together. This was done right before the character was killed off in the season finale for the penultimate season..

Also, the book was terrible because instead of showing how magic isn't going to solve all your problems, it just showed that being an hedonistic rear end in a top hat will ultimately just make your life miserable. The only character that wasn't a complete rear end in a top hat was Penny.

itry
Aug 23, 2019






IShallRiseAgain posted:

I liked how the show had an entire episode trying to convince its watchers that Quentin was NOT the main character despite him the being the one that usually drove the main plot forward, and the character that tied all the other characters together. This was done right before the character was killed off in the season finale for the penultimate season..

Also, the book was terrible because instead of showing how magic isn't going to solve all your problems, it just showed that being an hedonistic rear end in a top hat will ultimately just make your life miserable. The only character that wasn't a complete rear end in a top hat was Penny.

Huh, in the show Penny is a complete and utter rear end in a top hat :v:

Regarding the spoiler; yeah that was a weird decision. I guess somebody got bored or busy with other things.

Also, don't click the SPOILER Applewhite :ohdear:

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007


Applewhite posted:

In The Magician King, Quentin Coldwater is given a passport by a small child that serves as Quentin's entry passport into the Fillorian underworld. The passport is confiscated and not returned.

Later, when attempting to cross over to the opposite side of Fillory, the guards deny Quentin entry because the passports are single use.

Does this mean that Quentin will not be able to enter the afterlife at all when he dies, or just the Fillorian afterlife?

Season 1. Too much loving. Season 2-4 pretty good. Season 5 whatever I guess not bad just whatever.

I'm probably remembering correctly it's been 4 days since I finished.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Aug 16, 2022

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy


Josh is more interesting than Quentin and the moon thing was p good imo

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005




The show does a lot better with some characters, like Janet gets a lot more to do.

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009


itry posted:

I thought the books were edgier or something.

Edit: Also that Quentin is insufferable in them, but that's probably the result of being inside the character's head.

That too.

When you hear that a fantasy book is edgy it means there's a very graphic, violent, painstakingly described rape scene and oh boy does that hold true here.

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007



why are that mans ears upside down

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000





Ultra Carp

what

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000





Ultra Carp

How would you take a passport with you when you're dead? Like, normal dead or Fillorian dead doesn't really matter.

itry
Aug 23, 2019






Blurry Gray Thing posted:

That too.

When you hear that a fantasy book is edgy it means there's a very graphic, violent, painstakingly described rape scene and oh boy does that hold true here.

Oh, right. Of course.

Vim Fuego posted:

How would you take a passport with you when you're dead? Like, normal dead or Fillorian dead doesn't really matter.

Presumably the same way those pharaohs took all of those cats.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012


itry posted:

I heard the books aren't as good as the show

books are never as good as the show nobody wants to read a bunch of boring loving internal monologues or read a 5 paragraph description of the roasted ham

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy


Robo Reagan posted:

books are never as good as the show nobody wants to read a bunch of boring loving internal monologues or read a 5 paragraph description of the roasted ham

lol

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018



Pillbug

I wanna read 5 paragraphs about heaving bosoms during coitus. They got any of that in these books or no?

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003



two of the characters gently caress while shapeshifted into arctic foxes. in the second book a much larger, angrier fox is considerably less concerned with consent

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy


I'm writing a book and I definely have to put in some furry poo poo to bank that Zootopia money

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018



Pillbug

Lev, truly the grossest of men

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.

itry posted:

I heard the books aren't as good as the show

Lev Grossman prefers the show to his books, it feels like a different time loop. Margo's name is Janet in the books, they make a nod to this and ask about Janet a few times in the show for everyone to be confused.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

IN THE GRIM BARKNESS
OF THE FUTURE
THERE ARE ONLY DOGS



Nap Ghost

pixaal posted:

Lev Grossman prefers the show to his books, it feels like a different time loop. Margo's name is Janet in the books, they make a nod to this and ask about Janet a few times in the show for everyone to be confused.

I'm glad they changed it because frankly the whole Janet and Julia thing confused me constantly.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018



Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

IN THE GRIM BARKNESS
OF THE FUTURE
THERE ARE ONLY DOGS



Nap Ghost


Post/AV combo.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005




pixaal posted:

Lev Grossman prefers the show to his books, it feels like a different time loop. Margo's name is Janet in the books, they make a nod to this and ask about Janet a few times in the show for everyone to be confused.

There's also a point where the main characters have fake lives with new identities and Margo's is named Janet.

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Fat Dan
Jul 10, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!


A bald author, you're always just looking for where the anger shows in the characters.

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