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BIG HEADLINE posted:I got one a week and a half ago and basically took the time to ask them why they seem so hellbent on making every loving game last 15 minutes or more and making us rebuy the same slightly-tweaked cards. One one hand it's annoying that I don't get anything physical for my money but on the other it doesn't matter how old a pack from HS is it's still the same cost. I think my collection hovers around 90% complete. Getting a 90% complete collection in MtG would be absurdly expensive.
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I used to buy at least the Mega Bundle every single expansion. I stopped doing that about two years ago now because I realized that I was just not playing that much Standard any more. I mostly play Battlegrounds now because it is fun and quick and goofy the way that I used to really enjoy 'regular' Hearthstone being. I'm not sure what the fascination is with the stall cards is now but the thought of playing a reasonable minion onto an empty board on turn 1 and it being answered with Coin + Infested Breath for two entire years does not make me want to play more than the five games a week for the quests in the low bronze.
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NorgLyle posted:I used to buy at least the Mega Bundle every single expansion. I stopped doing that about two years ago now because I realized that I was just not playing that much Standard any more. I mostly play Battlegrounds now because it is fun and quick and goofy the way that I used to really enjoy 'regular' Hearthstone being. I'm not sure what the fascination is with the stall cards is now but the thought of playing a reasonable minion onto an empty board on turn 1 and it being answered with Coin + Infested Breath for two entire years does not make me want to play more than the five games a week for the quests in the low bronze. My personal least favorite is airlock breach. Two 5/5 taunts and 10 health for one card? fun.
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Desert Bus posted:I shared a deck with someone via the battle.net chat which is annoying and also it did this: Desert Bus posted:
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The Rogue quest is deeply amusing, but I’m worried it’s just flat-out worse than the current Cycle Rogue shell. It’s a little disappointing there’s not more shuffle support in neutral… basically just Asteroids, Incindius, Marin, and Illusory Greenwing…
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Jun 23, 2025 18:47
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Using the Rogue quest with Kil'Jaeden to summon three demons a turn.
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That doesn’t work. Only the Ninjas (from Interrogation and Master Dusk’s battlecry) are Cast When Drawn. With Kil’jaeden, the Hero Power is a draw two and nothing else. Which isn’t nothing, but Rogue doesn’t have the removal kit to play Kil’jaeden wars.
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Yeah that's what I'm saying, you're drawing one from the Portal and two more from the hero power. I guess I should have said draw instead of summon.
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Pets coming to HS. From the clips shown, I'm not a fan, honestly. But since they are optional, sure, grab that money. quote:To get King Krush, and other collectible cosmetics, visit the Darkmoon Faire’s newest attraction—Darkmoon Faire Treasures. Here, you can claim wondrous treasures, and all items up for grabs are part of a themed collection of curated rewards for Hearthstone cosmetic enthusiasts—and the first "But how much do the additional "pulls" cost", you ask? They are hiding the prices behind a link to a separate page for a reason... Just 158 USD/EUR if you want to get all 10 items, with the last one being USD/EUR 50 by itself. (I fully expect these costs to come down after the incoming backlash, in the typical "we hear you" fashion that has been used to set anchor prices in the past. Do any of these sound that they would be worth that much? I thought this lottery/casino bullshit has been outlawed, at least in the EU, but apparently this is fine. Pet - King Krush Diamond Legendary Card - Niri of the Crater x 1 Signature Legendary Card - Opu the Unseen x 1 Hero Skin Set - Aegwynn Mage Hero Skin and Card Back Signature Epic Cards - Creature of the Sacred Cave x 2 Hero Skin - Field Researcher Elise Druid Hero Skin Signature Rare Cards - Volcanic Thrasher x 2 Card Back - Clever GIrl x 1 The Lost City of Un'Goro Golden Card Pack x 1 Signature Common Cards - Questing Assistant x 2  And these are the chances to pull each item, so enjoy your "Clever Girl" card back. The chance for the pet stay < 1% until the next to last pull (6%) and jumps to 100% if you spend 158 bucks (didn't do the math, someone else did).  Here's an angry man diving into it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQVMosqrrek mcbexx fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 25, 2025 |
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Jun 24, 2025 20:33
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Didn’t they try a similar kind of thing in Battlegrounds? Real irritating that they keep trying to elbow in more FOMO-driven pseudo-gambling systems to get cosmetics! Look, I’m a slightly-ashamed whale for this game, but solution is simple. Put cosmetics in the store and let people buy the ones they like with their money.
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I feel like they could make a lot more money and still keep the whales/collectors happy by making the Siganture/Diamond cards in the shop like 50% cheaper. No way in hell will I ever pay 50bux for a single digital card.
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Pets aren’t a bad idea, and Krush is cute, but lol that pricebravesword posted:Didn’t they try a similar kind of thing in Battlegrounds? Real irritating that they keep trying to elbow in more FOMO-driven pseudo-gambling systems to get cosmetics! Yeah this is kinda similar to Batlle bashes but they were much, much cheaper to get everything EDIT: I think the chance for getting Krush at all before the last pull is just plausible deniability for players who paid $150 for him. “Oh no I didn’t pay I just got super lucky” RatHat fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 24, 2025 |
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RatHat posted:Pets aren’t a bad idea, and Krush is cute, but lol that price The writeup I read basically came down to Krush being a $50 cosmetic that happens to require buying about $108 in other cosmetics first. At best you're getting a 7% of getting Krush when it's just down to him and another drop, so just treat it as a step-up reward system. (Which is also why I think displaying these rewards the way they do where everyone's first thought is going to be "ooh, I could get lucky and get Krush on my next roll!" is loving gross. Yes it's a common format in mobile games, that's the problem.)
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bravesword posted:Didn’t they try a similar kind of thing in Battlegrounds? Real irritating that they keep trying to elbow in more FOMO-driven pseudo-gambling systems to get cosmetics! Depressingly, the data, thanks to hiring genuine economists and market analysis, proves this makes less than (ab)using human possessive tendancies to generate artificial scarcity. Hence, loot boxes, DLC, rotating stores, all this bullshit - Because the only thing that matters is how hard the cows are milked, not the quality of the milk.
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Shockeh posted:Depressingly, the data, thanks to hiring genuine economists and market analysis, proves this makes less than (ab)using human possessive tendancies to generate artificial scarcity.
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For more perspective on how dumb it is, Here’s a Darkmoon Faire Treasure simulator
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TIL this loving thing is an imp
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"Fall before the imp's gambit!"
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Here’s your reminder that once the patch goes live tomorrow, you will be able to open Lost City of Un’Goro packs… but the set isn’t officially “out” yet, so a) you won’t be able to craft or disenchant cards from that set yet, b) they won’t be legal in Constructed yet, and c) Standard packs and class packs won’t contain new cards yet, so if you’ve been saving them, don’t open them until the official launch, July 8. The prerelease Tavern Brawl also begins tomorrow. This one, like the last one, has a unique micro-format featuring Core, Emerald Dream (and miniset), and Lost City, with a couple miscellaneous cards from other Standard sets added in to make Quest decks more viable. Hamuul and Creature of Madness are banned. I am deeply worried that Imbue Paladin just rolls this format, as it’s a competitive deck that loses basically nothing from the missing sets, but we’ll see, I guess.
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Managed to get to legend in wild just in time, the mage imbue deck was pretty good. Will be interesting to see how it performs when the new set comes out.
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I got to Legend on the last day too, with Imbue Druid: ### Jade Dream # Class: Druid # Format: Standard # Year of the Raptor # # 2x (0) Innervate # 2x (1) Charred Chameleon # 2x (1) Living Roots # 1x (1) Symbiosis # 2x (2) Bitterbloom Knight # 2x (2) Horn of Plenty # 2x (2) Mark of the Wild # 2x (2) Trail Mix # 2x (3) Dreambound Disciple # 1x (3) Dreamplanner Zephrys # 2x (3) Petal Picker # 2x (3) Sing-Along Buddy # 1x (4) Amirdrassil # 2x (4) Flutterwing Guardian # 1x (5) Hamuul Runetotem # 1x (5) Sky Mother Aviana # 1x (8) Malorne the Waywatcher # 1x (8) Shaladrassil # 1x (9) Fyrakk the Blazing # AAECAcaLBwiqsQbM4QaqgQeSgwfygwevhwesiAekiQcLh58Erp8EgdQEorMGw7oG1voG4IEH94EHiIMHsIcHwIcHAAA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Aviana won me a few games (most amusingly by generating a turn six Ceaseless against a Menagerie Priest who windmill slammed a turn five Menagerie Jug), but she’s mostly a style card and is eminently replaceable. So, really, is Zephrys. You could cut them for two Wraths and have just as good a deck, although it wouldn’t be nearly as fun. Some people cut one or both of the Pickers, but this deck feels hard-up enough for card draw that I would hesitate to do so myself. Everything else feels pretty core… Fyrakk occasionally backfires, but he also clears boards the deck has no business removing and can scam lethals sometimes. There’s been a fair bit of complaining about this format online, but honestly it’s seemed pretty solid to me? It’s by no means my favorite Standard format, but it’s far from being worst, either. My main problem with it is that both the main set and the miniset launched with a horrid interaction that I can’t believe they missed (Arkonite Defense Crystal + Ravenous Felhunter and King Plush + Imbue + Tending Dragonkin respectively), but they were pretty aggressive on both counts and I felt their balance changes this expansion cycle were overall on point. Sadly I expect this trend to continue, as the Paladin Quest seems like it’s leaps and bounds stronger than anything else you can do in the new set. It’s Infestor 2.0, and I expect it will get old just as quickly. The new set in general seems more fun than good, just eyeballing it. I somehow ended up in top 2000 (on NA) despite barely playing this month and making Legend on the last day. Go figure.
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The meta from a balance POV feels pretty good. I still want to swing a bat into the dick of whoever thought Starship Kil'J DK was okay. It's just an intensely boring slog even when you win.
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More Twitch drops until July 5thquote:Community Days and More Drops (July 1-5)
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The fact that they fired (didn’t renew contract) or RHat makes me feel like this game is about to go into maintenance mode next year.
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With Microsoft planning major layoffs this month, it's not surprising that a contracted employee isn't being renewed. If that were the only cut for the Hearthstone team they would be very fortunate.
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Are you participating in the pre-release brawl arena? What decks are you running? My first run is paladin because that seems to be what everyone is running, but that deck is pretty boring to play, especially in the mirror, so I'm looking for alternatives. edit: second run with quest dragon warrior. I like this deck better. 2-0 but not against paladins yet. Oenis fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jul 1, 2025 |
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Oh, arena is bugged right now and not letting you draft new expansion cards. Thanks for wasting 300 gold Blizzard
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Who could have predicted that Paladin would be everywhere in this Brawl  But at least they banned Creature of Madness? Quest Mage seems kind of bad to me. I’m at 4-2 but one of the wins was a turn one concede (for whatever reason) and the deck is being hard carried by the imbue package I’m running. Note that Relic of Kings has only two legal picks in this format (Typhoon and Story of Amara), so it’s kind of bad except as an eight-mana Reno. Discovering eight cards takes a long time. I’m wondering if the correct way to build it in Standard is to try to bum-rush quest completion with cheap discovers and then use the reward in conjunction with dark gift guys to pump out a lot of stats cheaply. That seems more effective than messing around with Relic, Kalecgos, and Malorne as late game power plays. I don’t think Quest Hunter is any good, but I’m going to try it anyway next. Ditto Quest Priest. I’d like to try Quest Warlock but I didn’t open it.
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Making that Imbue better was such a dumb, unforced error. Paladin has needed to be blasted into an unplayable smoking crater for far too long. I'm convinced that one of the devs is like that MoP-era WoW dev who wanted warlocks to be supreme, but hasn't yet flown too close to the sun like that joker did.
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Navaash posted:Making that Imbue better was such a dumb, unforced error. It was actually cool and good. The buff turned the deck from completely unplayable into a competitive deck, and its play pattern or win rate isn’t toxic at all. The problem is solely in the Tavern Brawl, where it loses literally nothing despite the smaller format and requires no new cards, meaning it’s appealing both to players who didn’t preorder and don’t have many new cards and to sharks who are looking to use a tuned existing deck to run the table against people who are experimenting with unoptimized or incomplete lists, and those two groups combined are ruining the spirit of the event. The GDB prerelease Brawl had the same problem, where people could port in their no-new-cards Pirate Demon Hunter and Mech Warrior lists from Standard and bore everyone else to death in the weaker format. The reason the Emerald Dream Brawl avoided it, I suspect, is because essentially no existing decks survived the transition, so you had to be at least a little unconventional.
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Oenis posted:Are you participating in the pre-release brawl arena? What decks are you running? My first run is paladin because that seems to be what everyone is running, but that deck is pretty boring to play, especially in the mirror, so I'm looking for alternatives. I went 6-2 with a Dragon Warrior deck I grabbed from Reddit. One of those was someone conceding off the bat but I'm still happy with the run. Enough new cards that it felt fresh (while not relying on new legendaries) and I like seeing Ysondre just keep coming back.
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Tried out Quest Hunter. It’s another “would be fun if Imbue Paladin didn’t exist” deck — 0-3 against Imbue Paladin, 4-0 against all other decks. I really think they need to do some emergency bans to kick Imbue Paladin out of the format or the whole thing’s a total loss. As for Hunter, there’s a decided lack or good one- and three-power Beasts in this format. I miss Scarab Keychain. There’s also some tension between the fact that Supreme Dinomancy is one of your best cards, and if you play it before you’ve checked off 1 you can forget about Quest completion unless you get something off Odd Map or Raptor Herald. Sadly I think the best version of the deck probably dispenses with the Quest altogether… I’ll give it a run or two more, but I can play ladder if I want Imbue Paladin games, and have a better chance.
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I don't like opening packs early until I can spend my gold and get a nice bundle so I was one of the jackasses playing Imbue Paladin in the Brawl. 6 - 1 with the one loss against another Imbue Paladin. I don't mind the free packs, I guess, but I do feel bad for people trying out unoptimized or incomplete Ungoro decks in the format when they're going to play against a full on ladder deck with no alterations.
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Sandwolf posted:The fact that they fired (didn’t renew contract) or RHat makes me feel like this game is about to go into maintenance mode next year. I'm thinking there's still a good enough base to keep it rolling for a few more years at least. Everything MTG does seem to be taking the most market share away though. Now Warcraft Rumble, that's a game that's in big trouble.
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Played two games into the Brawl. Second game, ran into 'just Constructed Imbue Paladin'. Well, fun while it lasted.
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Yeah tbh I dunno why they banned Hamuul but didn't touch Paladin at all. Anyways went 5-2 with quest dragon warrior. Paladin matchup isn't terrible. Will probably do another run with some changes.
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Forget Hamuul, why did they ban Creature of Madness?
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opened a signature spirit of the mountain so i guess i'm playing menagerie shaman no matter how much it sucks edit: 5-3, all three losses to unchanged imbue paladin 
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Shockeh posted:Played two games into the Brawl. Second game, ran into 'just Constructed Imbue Paladin'. Yeah this is Blizzard’s fault for not letting us craft cards for the brawl. If you don’t get anything good from your pre-release packs you don’t have much choice but to use a constructed deck
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