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Dog Doggleman
Mar 9, 2024
Dilemma: my son wants to listen to his songs while we go on stroller walks/in the car at times, and I want to listen to a podcast, literally anything else. Is there a way to accomplish this with Bluetooth speakers? I’ve got an Apple Watch, AirPods, bluetooth bone conduction headphones, Bluetooth portable speakers, would love to be able to play kids music on a speaker via Apple Music from phone, and my music in AirPods/headphones, either from Apple Music, or Spotify, or web browser or whatever from iPhone or watch or whatever. Possible?

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Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
nope.

you can't output two different audio things from the same device.

However, you CAN have music (and other sources if the app supports it) playing from your watch output to headphones while your phone is playing something different output to a different speaker/headphones.

Dog Doggleman
Mar 9, 2024
So that would work for me! I could do Apple Watch to AirPods and then IPhone to JBL speaker? Both using Apple Music to send different music to each device?

I can’t seem to figure it out

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



By Apple Music do you mean the app or the streaming service? If the latter, I’m pretty sure it limits you to a single stream at once. It moans at me if it thinks I’m trying to use it on my phone and iPad at the same time at least.

Dog Doggleman
Mar 9, 2024
I mean the streaming service. I also have a Spotify account I could use too for one though if that works

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Dog Doggleman posted:

So that would work for me! I could do Apple Watch to AirPods and then IPhone to JBL speaker? Both using Apple Music to send different music to each device?

I can’t seem to figure it out

I just tested and generally speaking it should work. It may depend on what you're trying to play. Here's what I did:

-On the Apple Watch, launch the Music app. I started playing a radio station. Sent the output to my AirPods Pro
-On my phone, I started the Music app, started up just any random song, and sent the output to my Beats headphones.

Both devices were playing separate things, output to different headphones, all simultaneously.

Dog Doggleman
Mar 9, 2024

Jose Oquendo posted:

I just tested and generally speaking it should work. It may depend on what you're trying to play. Here's what I did:

-On the Apple Watch, launch the Music app. I started playing a radio station. Sent the output to my AirPods Pro
-On my phone, I started the Music app, started up just any random song, and sent the output to my Beats headphones.

Both devices were playing separate things, output to different headphones, all simultaneously.

Awesome! Was able to get it done that way as well. I had tried it a few minutes prior in the opposite order (starting with iPhone to Speaker) and it didn’t work. But this worked great. Thank you, I really appreciate the help!

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.

Tiny Timbs posted:

Theoretically you could use it to query past messages better, like “find the receipts I sent to Mary”, which is something I usually have to scroll a fuckload to accomplish

funny enough i actually needed to group all the photos of receipts i took in mexico... and guess what! it didn't work! lmao i think i asked in this thread and i looked it up on google and it was possible to do this before the new photo app.

how is it that it knows i was in mexico, knows what a receipt looks like, knows the date on all my photos, yet a query for, "photos of receipts from last week in mexico" just generates some lame google search result. i tried asking for photos of my niece when i was complaining to my sister thinking it could at least do that query.. nope, more google search.

also i'm real close to just unsubbing from apple music because it can never understand what i want it to play. i think i've complained about this, but "play music" does not play the last playlist or song you were listening to, no it generates a new playlist for you instead. "play podcast" does the correct thing, which is load your last podcast, "play music" thinks that you want to listen to random music... does anyone really prioritize wanting to play random songs vs playing the songs they have in the playlist? i know sometimes people may just want to play jazz songs or whatever but i would assume that happens when you tell siri to "play some random jazz tunes."

another thing... some old song was stuck in my head.. i asked siri, "what song is this?" and i give it the first couple lines of the song. it gives me a snippet from a website that shows the lyrics, but the band isn't familiar, so i have to click on it for it to load the website. the article is about the song but the band who sings it was attributed to the singer's last name instead of his band. but when i tell siri to, "play the song with lyrics that start <lyrics>" it was able to easily play it.

there's just no real integration with the phone, siri and chatgpt. like they have all this data about me on my phone but i feel like they use none of it.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
General iPhone (and Android) Fyi: if you are on Verizon, they are doing a big promo push this month. Anyone on new plans, $830 trade in towards whatever new iPhone or Android. Standard catch of 36 month contract.

If switching to Verizon they’ll also buyout your current contract if you have one.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well
I cannot stress enough how much I hate the new threaded view in the Mail app. It’s threading emails together from years ago with new emails from today and presenting the whole thread as new? It’s crazy.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Duckman2008 posted:

If switching to Verizon they’ll also buyout your current contract if you have one.

Does this work if you left Verizon for AT&T?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Tiny Timbs posted:

Does this work if you left Verizon for AT&T?

Mostly Yes. For the buyout you have to have paid at least 4 months of your phone payment. If it’s like, 1-2 months then that’s a no go.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Duckman2008 posted:

Mostly Yes. For the buyout you have to have paid at least 4 months of your phone payment. If it’s like, 1-2 months then that’s a no go.

I’m at 18/36 on AT&T and now seems like a fair chance to lock in a rate and newer phone before prices get truly wild.

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

Duckman2008 posted:

General iPhone (and Android) Fyi: if you are on Verizon, they are doing a big promo push this month. Anyone on new plans, $830 trade in towards whatever new iPhone or Android. Standard catch of 36 month contract.

If switching to Verizon they’ll also buyout your current contract if you have one.

Doesn't every carrier do that whenever new phones come out?

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
Yes. But if you’re in the US and are even remotely thinking about getting a new phone, you better do it right the gently caress now. Not necessarily Verizon but, you gotta figure out the best option and pull the trigger asap.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Chemmy posted:

Doesn't every carrier do that whenever new phones come out?

For new lines yes, but not always for upgrades, and def not always on the cheaper plan. Right now the main change is upgrades you can get it on even the cheap plan.

Also, recently until 2025 phone buyouts were rare, so something different if you are looking to switch as well. You actually don’t have to trade in your current phone the switcher either.


So don’t get me wrong, maybe don’t take it as “Omg you’ll never see deals like the current ones,” but if in the market for a phone with Verizon, it’s a good time to look.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

I'll never criticize Siri again.

https://www.theverge.com/news/644446/white-house-signal-group-chat-blamed-ios-siri-suggestion

quote:

Here’s The Guardian’s description of how that happened:
According to three people briefed on the internal investigation, Goldberg had emailed the campaign about a story that criticized Trump for his attitude towards wounded service members. To push back against the story, the campaign enlisted the help of Waltz, their national security surrogate.
Goldberg’s email was forwarded to then Trump spokesperson Brian Hughes, who then copied and pasted the content of the email – including the signature block with Goldberg’s phone number – into a text message that he sent to Waltz, so that he could be briefed on the forthcoming story.

And later:

According to the White House, the number was erroneously saved during a “contact suggestion update” by Waltz’s iPhone, which one person described as the function where an iPhone algorithm adds a previously unknown number to an existing contact that it detects may be related.

lol

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


That’s not how contact suggestions work. I get spam texts and Siri asks if I want to add the contact. It doesn’t save the contact automatically…or maybe there’s a setting where it does?

rio
Mar 20, 2008

I don’t really trust any explanation excusing away what happened there, Apple intelligence or not.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's most likely that a 51 year old idiot was tapping boxes to get them out of the way and did an oopsie.

But it's much easier to blame it on the tech.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
I don’t want to drag politics into the iPhone thread but it’s absolutely insane there’s no real ramifications for people using personal devices for super duper secret government poo poo.

hatty
Feb 28, 2011

Pork Pro
In a sane world there would be

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

There actually is a very iPhone element to that story:

quote:

According to the White House, the number was erroneously saved during a “contact suggestion update” by Waltz’s iPhone, which one person described as the function where an iPhone algorithm adds a previously unknown number to an existing contact that it detects may be related.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/06/signal-group-chat-leak-how-it-happened

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Rank and file government employees get run through a ringer for security lapses like that. The old farts near the top get away with anything they want.

BadSamaritan
May 2, 2008

crumb by crumb in this big black forest


Jose Oquendo posted:

Yes. But if you’re in the US and are even remotely thinking about getting a new phone, you better do it right the gently caress now. Not necessarily Verizon but, you gotta figure out the best option and pull the trigger asap.

Been lurking in this thread for just that. My SE 2 was getting pretty laggy and the battery was cratering yet again- I wanted to put off an upgrade for another 6 months or so but welp it’s new phone time apparently.

Can’t switch phone plans though because I’m grandfathered in at a laughably low rate for two lines with T-Mobile.

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

Jose Oquendo posted:

I don’t want to drag politics into the iPhone thread but it’s absolutely insane there’s no real ramifications for people using personal devices for super duper secret government poo poo.


shrieking about buttery males for a decade straight never accomplished the stated goal of getting hillary thrown in prison but it did create an environment where absolutely nobody wants to hear about this kind of thing ever again

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


does voice control have a time limit on the phone still? On my Mac mini I have to type about a tenth of the amount considering how well it works for dictation.

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

Is there a "faster" way to have photos on my iPhone sync to iCloud Photos? After I take the photos I need, I want to upload them to various places. I usually directly e-mail, but the file sizes are too big and too many. I used to upload them to Good Drive, but it downloads into a non-jpg format and the other web services don't play well.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

obi_ant posted:

Is there a "faster" way to have photos on my iPhone sync to iCloud Photos? After I take the photos I need, I want to upload them to various places. I usually directly e-mail, but the file sizes are too big and too many. I used to upload them to Good Drive, but it downloads into a non-jpg format and the other web services don't play well.

It should be pretty drat near instant. By default if you’re on WiFi it will basically instantly upload it. On cellular, the app will nag you about not being on WiFi. You can tell it to upload if on cellular. There’s also a setting in the photos app to just do this automatically.

I’ve taken pictures and then within seconds it shows up in the photos app on my computer or iPad.

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Yeah it's really rare to have it not upload immediately.

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

Yeah I think I've just been doing it enough where I notice that it's not instant.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

obi_ant posted:

Yeah I think I've just been doing it enough where I notice that it's not instant.

Are you on WiFi or cellular? If you take just one photo, how long does it take to show up on the website or other devices?

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

Jose Oquendo posted:

Are you on WiFi or cellular? If you take just one photo, how long does it take to show up on the website or other devices?

Wifi, computer and phone are on the same network. I just did this and it took about 55 seconds from taking a picture and constantly refreshing the iCloud Photos to show up.

Sometimes it will do something stupid like upload 9/10 photos and the 10th one will take ages.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

obi_ant posted:

Wifi, computer and phone are on the same network. I just did this and it took about 55 seconds from taking a picture and constantly refreshing the iCloud Photos to show up.

Sometimes it will do something stupid like upload 9/10 photos and the 10th one will take ages.

Do you have another device that you could test with like an iPad ? You could even test it on your computer. If you’re on a Mac, take any ol jpeg and drop it into the photos app and see how long it takes to show up on the phone camera roll. On windows, add the photo to whatever the iCloud app uses (I can’t remember how the windows app behaves) and see how long that takes to show up elsewhere.

As a last resort you could disable the photos sync on your phone for a bit. Turn it back on and see what happens.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
Random Verizon question for the employee(s) here (and I guess other US carriers might be useful info for my friends), is there a way to turn off international roaming entirely? On the phone there’s only a toggle for data roaming, and on the website the only choices are paygo, day pass, or monthly. Figure I’d have to call in and ask, but don't want to bother if the support call will go nowhere (or in circles as they misunderstand and/or just try to sell me on the day/month plans).

Asking cause I'm on a trip and just discovered wifi calling isn't just for wifi apparently. Phone calls and SMS can fall back to using a secondary data SIM, but only if the home SIM gets no signal. Like the connection priority (in the case of using a home SIM and travel data SIM) goes wifi > home SIM > travel data SIM.

From what I've been able to find, if you can't disable voice roaming, the trick is to manually select a local carrier that your home carrier doesn't have a roaming agreement with. Took some trial and error but one worked here, out of the four available. Just curious if I have any options if all the local carriers have roaming agreements.

(And as for why I'm bothering with this vs just disabling the home SIM, I still want it mainly for SMS, which is annoyingly prevalent for 2FA or other security alerts and stuff. Plus it'd unlink the number from iMessage which would cause some more annoyances.)

coke
Jul 12, 2009

japtor posted:

(And as for why I'm bothering with this vs just disabling the home SIM, I still want it mainly for SMS, which is annoyingly prevalent for 2FA or other security alerts and stuff. Plus it'd unlink the number from iMessage which would cause some more annoyances.)

To keep the number tied to your imessage, you can lock the SIM and when you reboot just click on 'continue' to ignore the sim unlock.

You will still need an active or unlocked sim for SMS but at least it wont remove imessage from your account or draining your battery by connecting to multiple networks or constantly searching for tower.

Make sure you find the default pin or something first or have access to the store in case you accidentally locked it wrong.


The other option is turn on airplane mode and use wifi only for wifi calling and sms, or use a second phone for data-only tethering and forcing the verizon phone to go wifi only.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

japtor posted:

Random Verizon question for the employee(s) here (and I guess other US carriers might be useful info for my friends), is there a way to turn off international roaming entirely? On the phone there’s only a toggle for data roaming, and on the website the only choices are paygo, day pass, or monthly. Figure I’d have to call in and ask, but don't want to bother if the support call will go nowhere (or in circles as they misunderstand and/or just try to sell me on the day/month plans).

Asking cause I'm on a trip and just discovered wifi calling isn't just for wifi apparently. Phone calls and SMS can fall back to using a secondary data SIM, but only if the home SIM gets no signal. Like the connection priority (in the case of using a home SIM and travel data SIM) goes wifi > home SIM > travel data SIM.

From what I've been able to find, if you can't disable voice roaming, the trick is to manually select a local carrier that your home carrier doesn't have a roaming agreement with. Took some trial and error but one worked here, out of the four available. Just curious if I have any options if all the local carriers have roaming agreements.

(And as for why I'm bothering with this vs just disabling the home SIM, I still want it mainly for SMS, which is annoyingly prevalent for 2FA or other security alerts and stuff. Plus it'd unlink the number from iMessage which would cause some more annoyances.)

I don’t think this is possible, albeit I have never run into this issue / questions.

I would think care can put a block on international , but that might block your texting entirely, aka might as well disable SIM at that point.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

just got an iphone 16 to replace my 12 for the same reason as many others in the us. the battery was starting to go and the island is cool i guess but i really dont' see any real performance improvements as i never had any issues with my old phone. camera seems v nice tho.

on a frivolous note shame they got rid of the red tho the blue's not bad

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

coke posted:

To keep the number tied to your imessage, you can lock the SIM and when you reboot just click on 'continue' to ignore the sim unlock.

You will still need an active or unlocked sim for SMS but at least it wont remove imessage from your account or draining your battery by connecting to multiple networks or constantly searching for tower.

Make sure you find the default pin or something first or have access to the store in case you accidentally locked it wrong.
Hmm I think I heard about this trick but was a bit paranoid about trying it for the accidentally locking wrong part. Maybe experiment around with it before my next trip, whenever that is.

Semi related question, since I've managed to still have a SIM card through a few phone transitions, is there any disadvantage to converting it to eSIM at some point? Not really planning to do anything else with it besides when changing to a new phone entirely.

quote:

The other option is turn on airplane mode and use wifi only for wifi calling and sms, or use a second phone for data-only tethering and forcing the verizon phone to go wifi only.
Yeah for the future I've been considering just like a mobile hotspot thing...or maybe a cellular iPad mini next time new ones come out, since I'm bringing mine around everywhere anyway.

Duckman2008 posted:

I don’t think this is possible, albeit I have never run into this issue / questions.

I would think care can put a block on international , but that might block your texting entirely, aka might as well disable SIM at that point.
Ahh ok, doesn't seem like it's worth pursuing that then.

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EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
Is there a technical reason that Send Later in Messages is limited to other iPhone users? I don't have the option when testing green bubbles, which seems weird to me. Why does it matter who I'm sending to?

(I'm one of those people that get up at 5am and start working, so I end up relying on SL a LOT to not look like an insane person)

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