Intel cRaptor Lake

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chaosbreather: Dec 9, 2001; Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

Gentle Autist posted:

my radeon works fine

omg I am so sorry dude do you have a gofundme or something

# ? Oct 6, 2022 22:57

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# ? Apr 18, 2024 14:18

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

brutal

# ? Oct 7, 2022 01:35

Best Bi Geek Squid: Mar 25, 2016

have a kid who is really into gaming? show them you don�t love them by buying them an Intel Arc

# ? Oct 7, 2022 02:06

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

now, jimmy, i know this isn't the nvidia one you wanted, but the man at best buy said this one is just as good

# ? Oct 7, 2022 02:16

mystes: May 31, 2006

mom: we have a video card at home

the video card at home: 💩

# ? Oct 7, 2022 02:20

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

have a kid who is really into gaming? show them you don�t love them by buying them an Intel Arc

lol

# ? Oct 7, 2022 02:46

chaosbreather: Dec 9, 2001; Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

it truly has been Intel�s arc. from disruptor to juggernaut to completely irrelevant. Intel is to modern computing what doki doki panic is to Mario Odyssey

# ? Oct 7, 2022 02:52

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

intel arc can briefly serve as a boat. or is that intel ark?

# ? Oct 7, 2022 02:59

mystes: May 31, 2006

chaosbreather posted:

it truly has been Intel�s arc. from disruptor to juggernaut to completely irrelevant. Intel is to modern computing what doki doki panic is to Mario Odyssey

I think for intel employees it's probably more like "constant lowkey panic"

# ? Oct 7, 2022 03:01

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWw6q6fRnnI
lmao that's a hot chip

# ? Oct 20, 2022 15:14

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

intel i9 sucked me off ???

# ? Oct 20, 2022 15:25

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

graph posted:

intel i9 sucked me off ???

it certainly sucks all the power from the grid

# ? Oct 20, 2022 15:26

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

"when we called it Hot Chips we didn't mean that as a suggestion"

# ? Oct 20, 2022 15:32

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

akadajet posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWw6q6fRnnI
lmao that's a hot chip

yowza

# ? Oct 20, 2022 16:07

Jenny Agutter: Mar 18, 2009

incel craptor bake

# ? Oct 20, 2022 18:30

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

real brute force approach on these. but with both the arc gpus and raptor lake it is some actual good boomer energy to just price your stuff according to how well it works.

which tells me that intel is probably genuinely doomed, that's not how you run a tech company. especially not now, but kind of also not ever.

e: for those not following the intel stuff is mostly a hair faster than the amd offerings, running red hot, but is actually a fair bit cheaper.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 18:34

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

What's funny is that amd will probably respond with 3d cache versions of the 7000 series and immediately leapfrog Intel again

# ? Oct 20, 2022 18:57

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

real brute force approach on these. but with both the arc gpus and raptor lake it is some actual good boomer energy to just price your stuff according to how well it works.

which tells me that intel is probably genuinely doomed, that's not how you run a tech company. especially not now, but kind of also not ever.

e: for those not following the intel stuff is mostly a hair faster than the amd offerings, running red hot, but is actually a fair bit cheaper.

they trade back and forth depending on the benchmark, but somehow intel manages to take 50%+ more current to do it, despite going apeshit with "efficiency" cores

# ? Oct 20, 2022 18:59

Best Bi Geek Squid: Mar 25, 2016

quote:

Hot Chips
A person who remains laid back, fun loving, and doesn't take themselves too serious. They usually hang loose and never get upset. And love hot tortilla chips after the game
Deanna: Man, Brendan was such a dick at volleyball today.

John: yeah I wish he was more like mark and Zak. They are so hot chips
by Two guys? September 15, 2010

# ? Oct 20, 2022 19:04

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

infernal machines posted:

they trade back and forth depending on the benchmark, but somehow intel manages to take 50%+ more current to do it, despite going apeshit with "efficiency" cores

yeah, because their fab process is garbage. what makes it interesting is how they price it considering, bang for buck kind of thing.

and that means generally that if the next intel process is garbage they're sunk, while if it is competitive they can keep this effective dumping up and amd will have a bit of a struggle.

at any rate good times for consumers, no way these are the prices intel *wanted* for these things

# ? Oct 20, 2022 19:05

Asymmetric POSTer: Aug 17, 2005

dump your hot chip load onto me daddy intel :gizz:

# ? Oct 20, 2022 19:19

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Jenny Agutter posted:

incel craptor bake

lol

infernal machines posted:

they trade back and forth depending on the benchmark, but somehow intel manages to take 50%+ more current to do it, despite going apeshit with "efficiency" cores

maybe powering a truck with 17 wankel engines isn�t a good idea

# ? Oct 20, 2022 19:32

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

# ? Oct 20, 2022 19:58

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

The new Ryzen stuff is basically designed to boost until it hits 90C and stays there, and yet it still uses less power

# ? Oct 20, 2022 20:02

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

Fabricated posted:

The new Ryzen stuff is basically designed to boost until it hits 90C and stays there, and yet it still uses less power

that's been true for everything for well over a decade though, run as hard as possible until you hit just short of where the hardware starts to melt, then back off only as needed.

only weirdo nerds on the internet ever tried to cool stuff below its designed temperature limit.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 20:05

psiox: Oct 15, 2001; Babylon 5 Street Team

dang, maybe i'm being too conservative by throttling things down until they're at least under 70�C

is there even any need for software-defined thermal control anymore or is it all handled in hardware/firmware?

# ? Oct 20, 2022 20:14

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

echinopsis posted:

maybe powering a truck with 17 wankel engines isn�t a good idea

pshaw. it's the greatest engine ever devised, clearly adding more of them will only improve things

# ? Oct 20, 2022 20:32

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

psiox posted:

dang, maybe i'm being too conservative by throttling things down until they're at least under 70�C

is there even any need for software-defined thermal control anymore or is it all handled in hardware/firmware?

unless you have an apple, you can safely assume that whoever built your computer knows more about its cooling and thermal characteristics than you do

# ? Oct 20, 2022 20:33

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

that's been true for everything for well over a decade though, run as hard as possible until you hit just short of where the hardware starts to melt, then back off only as needed.

only weirdo nerds on the internet ever tried to cool stuff below its designed temperature limit.

I don't think the previous Ryzen gens were straight up designed to run at 90C continuously even with water cooling.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 20:34

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

the "more cores" cartoon but w/ intel going "MORE WATTS :pseudo:

# ? Oct 20, 2022 22:35

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

thank the lord someone finally said craptor lake

# ? Oct 21, 2022 06:28

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

infernal machines posted:

they trade back and forth depending on the benchmark, but somehow intel manages to take 50%+ more current to do it, despite going apeshit with "efficiency" cores

turns out turning 16 weenie cores up to 11 isn�t necessarily power efficient just because there weenie cores

# ? Oct 21, 2022 07:21

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

lmao weenie

# ? Oct 21, 2022 07:33

git apologist: Jun 4, 2003

Asymmetric POSTer posted:

dump your hot chip load onto me daddy intel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hay61hokkhc

# ? Oct 21, 2022 08:28

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

fart simpson posted:

turns out turning 16 weenie cores up to 11 isn�t necessarily power efficient just because there weenie cores

yeah. and at that point, why not just make them all performance cores and be done with it?

# ? Oct 21, 2022 12:06

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

also they should make the whole plane out of black box!

# ? Oct 21, 2022 12:45

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

amd did it

presumably there will be a xeon that is like that come christmas

# ? Oct 21, 2022 12:55

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

infernal machines posted:

amd did it

presumably there will be a xeon that is like that come christmas

intel has a garbage fab process though, the efficiency cores and pushing the thermal envelope (and pricing) is the thing keeping them in the game. going all p-cores or at all imitating amd would make for a ridiculously slow thing as it immediately hits a thermal wall.

if we imagine intel building these things on a good process quite possibly they should look very different, but thinking the efficiency cores are a failure because the chip (optimized for pure performance) is hot is backwards.

# ? Oct 21, 2022 13:13

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma; Lipstick Apathy

fart simpson posted:

turns out turning 16 weenie cores up to 11 isn�t necessarily power efficient just because there weenie cores

if i'm got to use my computer to run VMs later i don't want to deal with cpu pinning or whatever workaround these weenie cores need

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akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=todoXi1Y-PI
the i5 is looking much more reasonable, shockingly

# ? Oct 21, 2022 15:52

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