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No more 18 minute intermissions?!?! But what about the 6 Toyota commercials! I'm looking forward to seeing how a properly run team does in Arizona. I'm also very much looking forward to this review change. Hopefully it helps avoid that garbage with the CCHA final last season, but somehow I doubt it. Also gently caress Michigan.
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Troy Queef posted:it is an absolute crying shame that Minny vs the Fighting [REDACTED] is not an annual, home-and away, series Absolutely correct. It was the best of yearly series and hotly contested. I've had more fun yelling and screaming at those games than any other games. The WCHA did eventually start getting too big when they added Bemidji and Nebraska Omaha, but before that it was some of the most consistently awesome hockey. Even the series against Alaska-Anchorage were fun. But with Minnesota, North Dakota, CC, Denver, Duluth, St Cloud, and Wisconsin you had just a ton of great hockey programs playing great series every year. Who among us can't remember Blake Wheeler absolutely steeling it against ND? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrOVhSQQN0U If you look really closely you can even see Dave Hakstol (you can't, but he was definitely there) and those series are why I can never support a Hakstol team. His tactics are still pretty close to the same! Jhet fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Oct 24, 2022 |
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Fifty Three posted:Yeah I don't know how far out college hockey gets scheduled compared to like, football, but I wonder if programs ever look at their rosters and outlook and wish they could make adjustments for the sake of strength of schedule Like most college sports you'll have guaranteed games set by the conference, and then the non-conference games that you get to schedule yourself. So some schools will have agreements for multiple year series (home one year, away the next) and some will just arrange games in the summer after they get the conference schedule too. The ADs and coaching staff will kind of know by then what they want. Conference games you get much less control over and will play everyone if possible.
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DJExile posted:yeah there's always some weird poo poo in early rankings and I believe they've also tweaked how pairwise is calculated. Pairwise is pretty useless until teams have actually played each other more. Right now it has a 5-3-1 Massachusetts team that's #8 in Hockey East winning the comparison against a whole bunch of teams you'd raise an eyebrow at. They've been getting trashed in conference games, but they beat Denver and Union in non-conference games and are getting a big boost from it. Meanwhile you get other teams playing tight and good hockey ranked below it because their non-conference schedule was difficult and they split the series. I'm not a big fan of the pairwise to begin with, mostly because of the "quality win bonus" that they use. It doesn't balance out very well, but Mass gets extra points for beating Denver in the second weekend of games from that too, but then the wins are weighted less because it was at home. It's too much like throwing darts at a board and you get inflated numbers which influence other numbers even if you don't end up playing anyone in the Big10 all year, you can end up higher with a worse record because you beat someone in the NCHA a month ago. But it gets even worse! If your win means your number would go down they just ignore it instead of fixing the system to pay attention to all the games. It should not even be possible to lose points in the standings and every win should be worth something instead of nothing. So if you have a relatively bad conference, instead of gaining points by beating your weak conference opponents, you get no benefit at all from those games. And if a bad team loses to a good team, its rating goes up while the good team doesn't get any ratings points from that game at all. Incidentally, this could make it more difficult for new programs to find regular games and even a conference. What's the point in adding bad teams to your regular schedule if it's going to hurt your postseason potential? tl;dr: If you want a ratings system that gives you a picture of the whole season, you need to be looking at the whole of the season with it and not modifying results heavily.
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That’s a really solid sweep over Michigan from the best University in Minnesota. Really a lot less emotion in these games than I’d want out of some top teams. This was also the first time I’d seen the new challenge system in play and it is absolutely awful.
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Somehow doing worse than St Thomas. It must be difficult to recruit to LSSU. Small city in the UP next to slightly large city in Canada is not going to be a huge draw. Travel for them must be horrible.
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DJExile posted:I wanna say Union has a super small enrollment too, like sub-2000, and they had a great stretch not that long ago, so yeah it's definitely possible but you need a lot to go right Yeah, I keep seeing the number in front of Minnesota and going, huh? They're flying this year, but Quinnipiac has a soft conference and according to CHN the 42nd strongest schedule compared to the Gophers with the 2nd strongest schedule. I get it too though, they're winning almost every game, but when you only play one non-conference team with a record above .500 (Sacred Heart on 1/27), that isn't really going to tell anyone a whole lot about how good your team really is. I'll give the UP schools Northern Michigan as a draw. Marquette is pretty decent as a small college town. I've not been to Houghton, so I'm not sure about that one. It's still in a bigger place than LSSU if you remember that it's probably a little more difficult to go party in Canada and then stumble through border crossing to get back to the dorms in the US. Lindenwood has been a good surprise this year. I hope they keep progressing and start causing some good standings trouble for teams that think they're going to get an easy weekend.
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I feel like it’s been a while since Minnesota finished as the #1 team in the nation. Does feel nice and they’ve been playing such great hockey it really warms the heart.
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Bip Roberts posted:I mean when did people set fire to Dinkytown last? 2003 for hockey. I assume it's been set fire to for other reasons in the intervening years for other reasons. I can think of at least a couple house fires caused by people lighting couches on fire for no discernable reason at all.
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Bip Roberts posted:Have the Minnesota players been able to cash in NIL yet? Most of them aren’t there long enough to cash in on it. The top line of Knies, Cooley, and Snuggerud isn’t even expected to be back next year. Though if I were Cooley I’d threaten to go back like Adam Fox did just to not have to play in Arizona. I’m surprised more elite college players don’t do it.
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actionjackson posted:why aren't the top players able to go right into the pros from college like in basketball? They can. There’s just not as many who can make it physically when they’re 18. You can put on a lot of muscle playing juniors or college and the two extra years make it easier to adapt to the speed and physicality of the play in the NHL. And if you can’t manage it you end up playing either back in juniors if you’re sent down and Canadian or into the AHL. Basketball doesn’t have all the development leagues like hockey either. It’s mostly just college -> pro with some more mid tier leagues mixed in some places.
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actionjackson posted:extending the OSU football helm and sticker style to the hockey helmets was a terrible idea You should see their gymnastics team spandex. The stickers are very ugly. It’s almost like all of the other conferences weren’t really as strong as they thought they were this year though. You’d think Michigan will be able to put up a touchdown on Colgate later still too. Penn State and Ohio State are the weakest of the four and someone got lucky that Michigan and Penn State are in the same regional.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Colgate scored 1 somehow Colgate took a butt-ending penalty. The sort of thing that almost never happens and Michigan took out their anger on the 5 min penalty. I very much dislike Michigan but even I wanted them to score one a minute after that garbage from Colgate.
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Bip Roberts posted:No suburbs please We aren’t talking about cake eaters today. We’re talking about how the Gophers sent the Huskies back to the pit that’s called St. Cloud. Go Gophers.
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actionjackson posted:edit: also, if a player gets a five minute penalty, are they also ejected? Sometimes the game misconduct is optional in the NCAA rules, sometimes it’s automatic 5+game misconduct. It depends on the infraction for minimum length and more options. If it especially endangers the safety of the opponent it could also be 5+match penalty which triggers a different and automatic suspension.
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BUG JUG posted:This stupid loving sport. Last year my Alma mater, this year the team I grew up idolizing. Next year the loving huskies will probably win the way its going. You should probably go wash your mouth out with soap for suggesting the huskies will win. That’s just filthy. I was phone streaming this game for most of the first period of the Chicago v Seattle game and missed four goals in person to watch the Gophers almost play the most defensive 20 minutes I’ve seen in ages. Then missed the 10 seconds overtime lasted.
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Stitecin posted:Should we just recycle this thread for '23/'24? Seems like a thread with just 6 pages could be renamed and carry on being a place for the six of us to post about this stupid sport. It does seem a little like playing prevent hockey for a whole third period of a national championship game, but no one in here would do that. (Same thread is probably fine.)
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How about some good college hockey news. Arizona State is joining the NCHC next year so they can loose more frequently to Minnesota and Colorado schools (and North Dakota). Augustana is in their first D1 season and I’m guessing they’ll do about as well as St Thomas did last year. Tennessee State is thinking about a D1 program. Minnesota has a bunch of new freshman coming in from… nope pretty much all from the state of Minnesota still. Only two guys that aren’t are goalies from Canada. Also Darby Hendrickson’s kid Beckett is committed for 2024. Hopefully he too can crush the dreams of the Vancouver Canucks someday. I expect Michigan‘s roster has turned over similarly. Hopefully Wisconsin is still terrible even with Mike Hastings running the program. Mankato State is now likely to be not nearly as good.
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iospace posted:EXCUSE ME? I didn’t say anything about Quinnipiac in that post. Unless you’re talking the Wisconsin women’s program? In which case, well played. They were really good last year. I’m sure the Gophers will be right back at it this year.
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Stitecin posted:Pretty stoked for this weekend! Gopher Wisconsin was not very good last year and they have a new coach. Gophers are going to be a much larger challenge (until they play a prevent structure in the third and give up the national championship no I’m not bitter please stop bringing it up). Those were always the barn burner games in my time at Minnesota too. Needs to be a yearly contest forever.
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iospace posted:Excuse me? We won the national championship last year You should, because the men’s team isn’t going to win anything for a while.
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Stitecin posted:I think the Wisconsin men's team will be better this year than you guys seem to. Hastings brought three players with him, and last year Wisconsin was a team of solid talent playing badly. No, you're very right. Hastings was a great hire, and I expect by December they'll be a difficult weekend. Plenty of uncertainty still, lots of new players replacing some really good talent in the conference too.
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DJExile posted:Almost everyone’s is. ESPN+ is almost always local contracted producers/workers, or college students themselves. Talent is a mix of locals or remote studio broadcasts. ESPN does not care at all about the product they dump onto E+. It amazes me that they televise these things. Coming from the former WCHA most of the teams had some sort of professional broadcast.
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Stitecin posted:This didn't age well. Idk, try again in April. Both Michigan and Minnesota lost top lines and d pairs, but are right back there at 6 and 12. Ask Penn State how the early season turned out when it came time to win trophies. I’d guess they’re playing better than that, but it’s a long season and I haven’t had a chance to watch much college hockey yet this year. I’d still put it to year 3 of Hastings before the program is really solid again.
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habeasdorkus posted:I'm really enjoying this run for UMass. It's nice to have an alma mater that's won a natty in recent memory! You hear that Minnesota? No, not you, women's Gophers, you're cool, even if it has been a whole 8 years since the last title at this point. I was talking to the goobers who get to play in the bigger and fancier arena next door to you despite not winning jack or poo poo in more than 20 years. You’re right. It’s been too long for either one to win the National Championship. I blame the Big10. Surely they can’t lose to Omaha (unless they play like they did against Michigan). They’re clearly not as good as they were last year, but that means they’ll play better right. Right?
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habeasdorkus posted:At least 95% sure the Denver goalie's family is sitting in front of me. Gonna make sure they hear me call their son a sieve if he gives up another goal. Lols. I was working an adult league game one night and there was a single person in the stands. This guy comes over before the game and apologizes for how annoying his mom's chirping is going to be. At least you're in a slightly more full rink, but there are a lot of empty seats for what's near enough to a home game for the #4 (16) team.
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habeasdorkus posted:Tickets were 55 bucks for the second level, and you had to buy for both games. UMass should have bought up seats and bussed down students, it's not like we're good at any other sport. That makes sense and is also crap. I want to be able to leave in between games, but then you get overtime in this one anyway. It's only the bottom bowl that I can see on the broadcast.
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habeasdorkus posted:Double overtime motherfuckers. Pretty sure the Denver goalie's family is ignoring me because i said I didn't realize their son was Domenic Hasek and they didn't flinch. They should have won that game 4-5 different times in the 2OT. Just couldn't get the puck through. No Interference at the end though, he's outside and pushed into the goalie by his defender.
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Then they don’t immediately wave off this puck that goes in off the referee’s butt? Why did they even call that a goal. I don’t care that the announcers had never heard about that rule, it’s been there for years now.
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Good college hockey scrum. That'll be the game.
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I want an all-former WCHA frozen four, but I Wisconsin and North Dakota need to win for that to happen too.
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wandler20 posted:This is kind of surprising. Figured he'd be gone. Not complaining, just surprised. I was expecting him to try to burn a year of an ELC at the end of the season here.
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DJExile posted:I realize scheduling any holiday-time tournaments is never easy but whooo boy I love hockey and very much miss D1 college hockey in person. I still think I’d be hesitant to buy tickets for that. Especially with it being the same ownership group as the Kraken running the over priced concessions.
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DJExile posted:If you're in the area then go for it. I realize we've all got our red lines but if concession prices are your sticking point then just have a nice meal before you go to the game, and rest assured that a bottle of water and box of buncha-crunch are less than a rounding error to jerry bruckheimer's group. No, I'm Seattle. They fleece me enough already.
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What a tight timing at the end of the 2nd for OSU with the time running out on the puck going in. Yikes.
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This is what happens when the Gophers try to play too much defense and stop skating. Motzko special.
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TrixR4kids posted:Supposedly they got replaced by CCHA refs for the WMU/Umass game. Does not really surprise me.
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