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Beeftweeter posted:anyone here on buspar (buspirone)? i just got prescribed it, interested to hear if it helped anyone I take it for anxiety but I’m not sure how much it helps. I don’t get any side effects and I dont want to find out what happens if I stop lol
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did they give you some time frames and expectations? glad it’s not a benzo mate, they are very very blunt tools and the costs can be high we’re discontinuing triazolam here and a lot of oldies have been on it for fuckkn donkeys and it’s not gonna be great. there’s a massive cohort of older people on benzos or zopiclone/ambien and they’ve always been a short term medication in theory but the system sucks and continuing to prescribe is the path of least resistance and you’ve got this half zombified people who can’t remember half their life and now they’ve got major falls risks due to all the CNS depression going on and now you’re gonna try and remove medications they’ve developed profound physical dependency with. I talk to older people and they say things like “i’m a worrier”, and they’re lonely and retired. no wonder they have anxiety, all they do is sit around and worry about things. and maybe it really is too late to change things, cognitive behaviour therapy to try to change their thought patterns. they just think that’s how they are and are sort of OK with being that way. sucks for everyone around them though. anyway they’re gonna have a tough tough time coming off triazolam and I bet almost all will just transition to zopiclone anyway which tbf is a better drug but it is just kicking the can down the road. but proper management of this poo poo takes more than a 15 min consult every 3 months
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Jul 27, 2023 21:20
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looks like buspirone is almost closer to a modern antidepressant (in the way you’d treat it, not the pharmacology) than an actual CNS depressant which is good. the same kinds of time frames apply too it seems, don’t expect immediate results. good luck dude. some people get huge benefit from some drugs that others don’t.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:25
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i love my benzos, but have to treat them like loving gold. i have 17 of my 20mg lorazepam left after taking 1mg monday to deal with cross country travel
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I feel like I am getting “used to” the ritalin. maybe I need a bigger dose idk. it certainly helps me focus more but emphasis also that it’s simply one part of the puzzle and am gonna have to focus on discipline like never before - that is, if I got ritalin, it’s because I actually want to progress and not get held back in life. and that means, more than just ritalin I’ve now sold my house, meaning no mortgage right and now and will pay of all my debts today. it’s a huge mental hurdle im finally over. have been putting off a lot of stuff which I am sort of dreading now having to face but that’s life. this year was always gonna be a big one. stressing about this adhd diagnoses but I got there. stressing about selling house but I got there. still living at my mums which I don’t love but let’s be real I can’t complain it’s an easy life here. professing being made on building sleepout at my gfs place and then when that’s done I can move there. we’ll be able to hammer that mortgage. winter is half over. need to get some exercise and discipline. would love to start considering a different job (not more of the same) and have been putting it off while this other stuff going on coz I don’t do well with lots going on.
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nudgenudgetilt posted:i love my benzos, but have to treat them like loving gold. i have 17 of my 20mg lorazepam left after taking 1mg monday to deal with cross country travel indeed. I had a clonazepam dropper bottle. hard to know how much is left. but they’re a bit of a nothing drug imo. a good tool. I understand people with anxiety get some recreational benefit out or them, some people call it euphoria but I’d be inclined to think that a total lack of anxiety (which is quite dysphoric) feels like euphoria to someone who has a lot of anxiety rc benzos seems like playing with fire. I follow a lot of drug subreddits and some of the experimental poo poo that’s around wow. anyone remember when tcc went thru a phase of people using flunazepam? something like that. a benzo with like a 36hr half life or something insane and active at about 1mg and people were eyeballing it and taking effectively huge doses, or even just taking small doses and then taking huge redoses once under the influence. didn’t people lose their jobs and livelihoods? come-to in a different country once I went out on the piss on 2x0.5mg clonazepams. fuckin hell that was a bad idea. went out with work colleagues at a new job and absolutely overshared .. and don’t remember doing so until coming back to work monday morning. in nz you can fire someone in the first 3 months for any reason (or quit for any reason, and tbh I think it’s quite good, after that it’s much harder) and I lost that job and while that wasn’t the cause I am sure it played a big part in the bosses decision making. I did not take that job seriously enough at all :/
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Jul 27, 2023 21:41
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yeah, i really don't get the euphoria side of it. when i take it, i'm usually pretty wound up, and the next thing i know i'm unable to stay awake, then when i wake up i'm no longer wound up.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:47
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echinopsis posted:did they give you some time frames and expectations? they didn't, just "twice a day and it'll take a while to work", which kinda sucks because i'm still waiting on the duloxetine to relieve my sciatica honestly i was hoping for a benzo and i could tell he was mentally going back and forth between thinking about giving me more clonazepam (i was on it previously) or this. he says it's similarly effective in other patients that he treats but idk, i sometimes have highly situational anxiety and taking a benzo is honestly an excellent way to short-circuit that. maybe i'll get some next month, they are cheap as poo poo here finally got some more dextroamphetamine too so i'm looking forward to actually being productive again Silver Alicorn posted:I take it for anxiety but I’m not sure how much it helps. I don’t get any side effects and I dont want to find out what happens if I stop lol one thing he did mention is that it's not addictive and there's no withdrawals or discontinuation syndrome, so you should be fine just dropping it. idk, i read a bit about it and it seems good. i hope it helps both of us
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Jul 27, 2023 21:52
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nudgenudgetilt posted:yeah, i really don't get the euphoria side of it. yep that's basically how i'd describe it too. no amount really makes me feel euphoric, it just takes the edge off and gets me to basically "normal but relaxed"
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Jul 27, 2023 21:53
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glad you’ve got at least those dexies and yeah, benzos as prn are fine, especially if the supply is limited and you’re forced to ration them, which might feel unfair but it’s for the better like sometimes it can be tempting to want to medicate away all of the human condition, I know I am like that, but some pain and suffering is actually part of a real life and I suspect it’s actually necessary to appreciate life someone addicted to opioids, a drug that can effectively emotionally stunt you, where you can lose a loved one and just take enough drugs so you don’t feel the pain of their loss - it’s tempting but I suspect it leads to a bit of a hollow life.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:58
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echinopsis posted:I feel like I am getting “used to” the ritalin. maybe I need a bigger dose idk. it certainly helps me focus more but emphasis also that it’s simply one part of the puzzle and am gonna have to focus on discipline like never before - that is, if I got ritalin, it’s because I actually want to progress and not get held back in life. and that means, more than just ritalin you've legitimately accomplished a lot in a pretty short time frame and i think that's proof positive it's helping you. i'm really glad you've been able to navigate your life issues and it seems like things are improving, that's good! honestly proud of you man echinopsis posted:glad you’ve got at least those dexies absolutely, i'm looking forward to hopefully getting my poo poo in order addictions can be weird. i do have a bit of a problem taking things uhh not as directed lol and yeah it can get bad. i still feel like i was more functional than at any point in my life when i was on a shitton of opiates for back problems, but that might've been coincidental. i was just trying to get through it. but recently i did notice that i was pushing myself too hard on them, looking back at some pictures of myself from that time period, i looked absolutely exhausted all the time. from what i remember it didn't really feel like it. pretty weird but i also noticed some gaps in my memory from when i was on heavier benzo doses though. it's genuinely scary to think about imo, obviously you don't notice that you've forgotten something and it sucks to discover that you had (because i generally think my memory is pretty good). i'd honestly like to forget this period of my life, but practically this time around i hope the buspar doesn't do that. from what i've read it shouldn't
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Jul 27, 2023 22:26
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hmm I know what you mean about getting more poo poo done under opioids. they’re a wonder drug in a way, they block everything bad, including feelings of tiredness or tedium or not wanting to do things, and they can be performance enhancing not because they give you motivation like stimulants but because they remove other psychological barriers but of course we all know these benefits aren’t free and the cost gets increasingly terrible thanks for the support brother
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Jul 27, 2023 22:39
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tomorrow I am going to my gp I have to talk to him about the diabetes drug that he put me on but I bounced off after 6 weeks due to unrelenting nausea and then say hey also I got diagnosed and now on ritalin so can u script that for me and then hey also motivation and depression is about as bad as it’s ever been how’d u feel if I tried zyban/bupropion (since I’ve always tried and really didn’t like SSRIs and also venlafaxine and also moclobemide) thankfully we have 15 minutes so should be no issue to cover all those things
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Aug 14, 2023 21:35
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dr gave me the zyban. some people report a honeymoon period. I hope I have that lol. and a friend of mine tells me it makes her mega horny and lol i’m curious about what that might be like
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Aug 16, 2023 04:35
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no one is allowed to talk about search theory 
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Aug 16, 2023 04:42
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what the heck is that
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Search theory, in the context of economics and operations research, is a field that deals with the problem of finding the optimal strategy for searching and matching items in an environment with uncertainty. It's commonly applied to situations where individuals or firms need to locate or match with a specific object, person, or information, but they don't have complete information about where or how to find it.
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Aug 16, 2023 05:49
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i started on bupropion/wellbutrin/zyban like 3 weeks ago I think it helps. compared to SSRIs it doesn’t make you less horny 😉 it’s not indicated as an antidepressant here (only as a smoking cessation tool) but I asked the dr and he said sure both bupropion and methylphenidate are dopamine and noradrenaline/norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors but seems like bupropion is relatively mild on the dopamine front so it’s got much less abuse potential (but still some) overall the combo seems pretty good, especially at increasing a general a sense of motivation, and at the very least I don’t have the same despair I was having prior.
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Sep 6, 2023 22:49
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they want to blast my head with magnets for depression lol i said i'd think about it but idk the whole idea seems a little weird and i'm not convinced it'd be effective
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Sep 6, 2023 23:36
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i thought wellbutrin *was* an ssri tms sounds neat. i'd give it a shot but my doctor said insurance probably wouldn't cover it for me
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Beeftweeter posted:they want to blast my head with magnets for depression lol sounds like quackery to me.
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Sep 7, 2023 00:41
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akadajet posted:sounds like quackery to me. I mean. I’m not a doctor so it may not be, but it’s giving me the same vibes as “head on apply directly to the forehead” from the description.
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humans seem to be able to stand in huge magnetic fields seemingly without any impact, so I can’t help by wonder how those things work maybe there’s some evidence idk nudgenudgetilt posted:i thought wellbutrin *was* an ssri no, it doesn’t have any impact on serotonin. while it’s not for everyone, it doesn’t have some of the worst side effects that SSRIs can have which means you can also take psychedelics and mdma with it. in fact bupropion inhibits the metabolism of mdma leading to higher plasma concentrations = more bang for your buck
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nudgenudgetilt posted:i thought wellbutrin *was* an ssri yeah that's the main thing, if i can't get insurance to pay for it i'm absolutely not gonna bother vs. being 50/50 on it if i can get it covered echinopsis posted:humans seem to be able to stand in huge magnetic fields seemingly without any impact, so I can’t help by wonder how those things work that was my line of thought as well but it is apparently effective against medication-resistant depression (no ssri i've ever taken has really done jack poo poo for me besides help with nerve pain while making me feel kinda weird). at the same time i'm not even sure i really meet the criteria, my therapist says i do but i think at least some of the symptoms she cites are caused by other things. obviously i can't be sure though so idk
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echinopsis posted:while it’s not for everyone heh, such an understatement. i was a suicidal 12 year old thanks to wellbutrin
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drat sorry to hear it
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i know it's yospos but y'all can actually look up data on various clinical therapies these days. anyway tms can definitely evoke brain changes and has been proven effective in depression (rah rah replication crisis, etc). so it's definitely not nothing whether it is effective for any specific individual is obv harder to pin down
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that’s what other posters are here for
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah that's the main thing, if i can't get insurance to pay for it i'm absolutely not gonna bother vs. being 50/50 on it if i can get it covered i did 7 weeks of rTMS/rTBS (theta burst stimulation), and it was one of the only things that has abated treatment-resistant depression for me. unfortunately, the effect went away after about a year, and it was pretty expensive ($40/session for 35 sessions) and time consuming. but definitely effective. that said, some of the effect is probably because i was a shut-in at the time and 7 weeks of forced daily house-leaving will do anyone some good. on that note, i had my first session with a therapist today, and it was the first time i drove in like seven months. first step to dealing with agoraphobia i hope 🤗
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godspeed
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Gnossiennes posted:i did 7 weeks of rTMS/rTBS (theta burst stimulation), and it was one of the only things that has abated treatment-resistant depression for me. unfortunately, the effect went away after about a year, and it was pretty expensive ($40/session for 35 sessions) and time consuming. but definitely effective. hmm interesting. i've never heard of rTBS but it sounds interesting too, my therapist is off this week but i'll ask about it next time thanks for sharing. honestly your endorsement might be pushing me towards actually trying it because while i'm not nearly as agoraphobic it is kind of something i struggle with because of social anxiety
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Gnossiennes posted:i did 7 weeks of rTMS/rTBS (theta burst stimulation), and it was one of the only things that has abated treatment-resistant depression for me. unfortunately, the effect went away after about a year, and it was pretty expensive ($40/session for 35 sessions) and time consuming. but definitely effective. echinopsis posted:godspeed Beeftweeter posted:thanks for sharing.
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good luck with your magnet fishing for contentment OP
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There was an ask me about therapy thread where I believe most goons in the know were endorsing some forms of treatment like that.
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felt a pukefest coming on this morning so i took an ativan have some critical deliverables due at work today, but now, the fucks, they are so fleeting
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therapy continues. i hate how short it is vs how much history and bullshit i have to get through  but in good news, it's been a much better experience so far than with the last two times i tried therapy (they did not go well).and i left the house twice last week, and i went two places today, so that's definite improvement. done with productivity today tho.
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echinopsis posted:SSRIs ... make you less horny this mostly stops after you've been taking them for a while, but at the beginning if you manage to have sex anyway, you'll last like a champ
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Gnossiennes posted:therapy continues. i hate how short it is vs how much history and bullshit i have to get through great poo poo mate DELETE CASCADE posted:this mostly stops after you've been taking them for a while, but at the beginning if you manage to have sex anyway, you'll last like a champ lol. and yeah there are some ssris that you take only when needed to prevent premature ejackin’ in other news : so far bupropion is pretty good. interesting both methylphenidate and bupropion are in the same drug category which is dopamine noradrenaline reuptake inhibitors, except bupropion is pretty mild on the dopamine side and methylphenidate mild on the noradrenaline side, but as a combo they work well for both motivation (from the noradrenaline) and ability to focus (the dopamine)
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lexapro i think did me for the surprise! climax prevention and zoloft iirc there is a plateau of excitation that's hard to get over with any stimulation and ho boy can that be frustrating, or fun if you take a positive outlook
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