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Sagebrush posted:is this thread going to be a cool thread about the biology of perception and cognition, or just a I hope it doubles as a perception/cognition thread and also neurodivergernce thread no intention to make it about tasting the rainbow cos you took sufficient acid
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polyester concept posted:
I totally get this, and it feels fuckin humiliating trying to explain to people how you didn’t do something that is extremely straightforward and simple Ciaphas posted:i am not a medical professional but lol that's me & my adhd described to a fuckin T. get u a psychiatrist appt echi funnily enough I emailed a dr who may have been helpful and he gave me the email of a clinical psychologist who may be able to help diagnose something .. but lol are you surprised to learn I haven’t gotten around to emailing them? lmao
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My perception is great thanks to laser eye surgery. I didn't read the rest of this crap but if I did rest assured I would've seen it clearly
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Fortaleza posted:this crap 
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Sagebrush posted:is this thread going to be a cool thread about the biology of perception and cognition, or just a I guess it's going to be pretty subjective
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consciousness adjacent, one of the weird brain things I love is the "mandela effect", wherein enough people misremember things or conflate actual differences with a conspiracy or timeline divergence or something like that, the origin being people thinking that nelson mandela died in prison in the 1980s and banding together on the proto-internet to claim they were from a timeline wherein he actually did die in prison and that they were now living in an incorrect universe another notable example is people who are insistent that the berenstain bears series of childrens books was always actually berenstein bears (note the subtle spelling difference) and that something has happened to the timeline to cause this change all of this is clearly just your brain trying to rationalize misremembering things with a healthy dose of collective paranoia, but it's interesting nonetheless. eg for a long time I was certain that a bunch of scenes in star wars: attack of the clones were added for home video but it turned out that they weren't actually in the imax cut (which I saw in theatres) for physical film format limitation reasons but they were in the 35mm cut and the home video cut (sourced from the 35mm)
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i have adhd too and i managed to get a mortgage and hold down a job unmedicated, it was just incredibly loving stressful echi
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echinopsis posted:maybe. probably. when I read “driven to distraction”, the book just resonated with me constantly again, this sounds like depression. you’re beating yourself up for not endlessly doing something you don’t enjoy. people start and abandon things all the time, but depressed people are hard on themselves and use it like “confirmation” that they are not worthwhile I was like that for years before i finally found medication and cognitive tools that help me manage my depression. go easy on yourself, and be open minded to trying things to pull yourself out of that rut. it takes time and work to overcome it. it’s an illness and needs to be managed as such
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I’ve got brain issues and they suck.
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i've been like psychosomatically thinking about adhd a lot because many of my friends have it, but i don't i haven't had the same kind of struggles they describe, but similar ones in the context of depression (lack of motivation especially) i've been working on depression for a long time and i know exercise works really well for staving off the feelings, the hardest part is getting started i know people dont wanna hear that but it's seriously so good for that range of mental issues in that it severely distracts you enough into forgetting about them for like a day or two
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hmmmm yeah that does keep coming up again and again. maybe there is something to it
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I have a hunch that, for adhd people, the benefits of exercise are reduced or non existent
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Silver Alicorn posted:I have a hunch that, for adhd people, the benefits of exercise are reduced or non existent that would be validating because while exercise is cool and good, it does jack poo poo for my mental health
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I have a lot of adhd symptoms but my official diagnosis is bipolar type 1. I also have generalized anxiety which my doc says contraindicates getting adhd meds. that said I have everything pretty well under control at this point except I wish I could concentrate better or get motivation for anything but my current hyperfocus (pinball atm, ask me anything)
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Silver Alicorn posted:I have a hunch that, for adhd people, the benefits of exercise are reduced or non existent not for me. pedicab saved my life. having a hamster wheel to exercise and make money and friends with was critical to healthily managing my symptoms. i start every day with a two mile walk just to clear my head, set objectives and do other mindfulness exercises. i physically cannot sit still. all my meditation space comes from motion. otherwise i cant concentrate
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exercise really helps me wrangle in the wigglebrains. gotta burn off some of that bottomless pit of energy
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exercise does not do *that* much for me, i walk a lot, but extending beyond that does only one thing: better sleep. which is however in and of itself a great thing.
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Silver Alicorn posted:I have a lot of adhd symptoms but my official diagnosis is bipolar type 1. I also have generalized anxiety which my doc says contraindicates getting adhd meds. that said I have everything pretty well under control at this point except I wish I could concentrate better or get motivation for anything but my current hyperfocus (pinball atm, ask me anything) afaik anxiety is pretty common with ADHD, and can be kinda paradoxically controlled with stimulants, but if not, guanfacine or propranolol have been really effective for me at quelling the side effects with stimulants. i have to titrate stimulants very slowly tho and stimulant "vacations" (to reset/lower tolerance) aren't really an option for me. it takes more work and observation, but it's doable imo, but i'm not you or your doctor, so take ymmv of course.
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Sagebrush posted:is this thread going to be a cool thread about the biology of perception and cognition, or just a i dunno, are folks knowledgable in the biology of perception and cognition going to use it to answer any meaningful questions? because i've never seen them do that
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i dunno, are folks knowledgable in the biology of perception and cognition going to use it to answer any meaningful questions? because i've never seen them do that ?? cognitive science is a real thing that in fact does answer lots of questions. idk what you count as meaningful but
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the mind is what the brain does, you say? cool! let's use science's burgeoning knowledge of how brains work to answer some of these long-standing questions in the theory of mind! wait what do you mean you're only qualified to talk about these five genes in particular
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i'm not saying cognitive science is useless, i think it's cool actually. but i thought this was a thread on consciousness. does cog sci have answers?
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i thought this was a thread on consciousness i think that was part of Sargebushes question
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well we don't need another thread for "i'm old and have sadbrains"
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DELETE CASCADE posted:well we don't need another thread for "i'm old and have sadbrains" It's party time get your drugs out If you want to make love get your muffs out It's party time get your drugs out Do you wanna make love to a sad old man?
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DELETE CASCADE posted:well we don't need another thread for "i'm old and have sadbrains" posting cops are here
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DELETE CASCADE posted:well we don't need another thread for "i'm old and have sadbrains" you’re always free to not post
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if you ask me we need more threads
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Gnossiennes posted:afaik anxiety is pretty common with ADHD, and can be kinda paradoxically controlled with stimulants, but if not, guanfacine or propranolol have been really effective for me at quelling the side effects with stimulants. i have to titrate stimulants very slowly tho and stimulant "vacations" (to reset/lower tolerance) aren't really an option for me. it takes more work and observation, but it's doable imo, but i'm not you or your doctor, so take ymmv of course. I’m gonna ask about the adhd stuff when I see my dr next month
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ah i thought this was the sadbrains/divergent thread apologies for missing the context
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Share Bear posted:ah i thought this was the sadbrains/divergent thread apologies for missing the context no one knows what this thread is, post wahtever you want, thread topics are a fake idea
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Anyone who is interested in consciousness and likes sci-fi should read "Blindsight" by Peter Watts. Watts also has a great blog and recently(ish) posted something relevant to this thread:quote:
Seems like a fairly neat explanation for the phenomenon to me. edit: link to blog post in full: https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=10225
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pypV-JPU1k
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GoodluckJonathan posted:Anyone who is interested in consciousness and likes sci-fi should read "Blindsight" by Peter Watts. Watts also has a great blog and recently(ish) posted something relevant to this thread: lizard brain gonna lizard brain, everything is structurally on top for a reason
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rotor posted:no one knows what this thread is, post wahtever you want, thread topics are a fake idea
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Share Bear posted:ah i thought this was the sadbrains/divergent thread apologies for missing the context oh it is, it’s also consciousness etc. just brain poo poo rotor posted:no one knows what this thread is, post wahtever you want, thread topics are a fake idea
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