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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

brain/mind chat containment thread

talk about consciousness itt

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

when I was younger I used to think I was smart but now I am worried my brain is hosed and will prevent me from succeeding in life

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

got ADHDD? tell me
about it. I wonder if I have it but because I can pay my mortgage and get to work on time then maybe itís not bad enough to warrant treatment so instead iíll just be a perpetual mild failure

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

rotor posted:

not a big fan, honestly

there are clouds outside but they are in your mind

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Video Nasty posted:

I like to think of my brain as ever-shrinking because every day I forget something important I should have known for years. Į\_(ツ)_/Į

:worship:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

your perception is a piece of poo poo

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

dioxazine posted:

the sky is blue because of rayleigh scattering, the clouds are white due to mie scattering

well yeah of course, but your perception of them is through an internal representation of them

everything out there exists, but what you experience is your own internal representation of them

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Beeftweeter posted:

for me it just means i get a billion thoughts all the time about complicated poo poo lol

if you can sort it out and connect them, it's actually helpful. i try to do this and seem to be able to harness it effectively, but ngl it makes concentrating pretty difficult at times. if you can't it sucks rear end

I think the crux of it for me is that yes my mind works like that when it has things to latch onto, but as Iíve aged, the things that provide stimulation and interest become fewer and fewer. itís like Iíve lived long enough to have explored everything that interests my brain, and there is nothing left to hyperfocus on

it feels like I just donít have control over what I can put effort into. and at least years ago I had an endless horde of things to dive into but nowadays .. Iím a motivationless husk of an individual

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Beeftweeter posted:

sounds like depression actually dude. go see a psych for a bit and try to get it sorted

maybe. probably. when I read ďdriven to distractionĒ, the book just resonated with me constantly

thereís defo high correlation with adhd and depression, and over the last year or so, Iíve slowly concluded that I am not as smart or special as I once believed, and the reality is that Iíll probably be a perpetual failure, because I can only work on something I find interesting until the inevitable time I find it no longer interesting. crime committer is the latest victim. thrust game next in line

defo need to get my self sorted by a professional rather than self diagnoseses

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Ciaphas posted:

how often do you do something like heading towards the door to go out, thinking "oh, i should grab my keys", then continue walking out the door keys ungrabbed because you forgot the thought almost as you thought it

oh lol all the time. usually not keys because ďkeys wallet phoneĒ (as I slap all three my pockets in succession) is a routine burned into my brain, but everything else yes. Iíve kind of had to learn that if I remember something I need to do I have to act on that thought NOW else Iíll forget

the worst is (for example) when Iím doing a task at work, say pouring out the methadone, and I remember another job that needs to be done so I find myself doing another task without really ďdecidingĒ to leave one task and start another. the lack of impulse control loving sucks lol, my work colleagues point out how easily distracted I get




my understanding is that, neurologically, adhd is a lack of dopamine in the reward pathway, so the brain is seeking something to stimulate it, and then it sometimes finds something it likes and can hyperfocus on it, until it no longer provides satisfaction. and stimulants work because they effectively allow the brain to find reward in almost any task.

Beeftweeter posted:


definitely see a psychiatrist, i think it'd be a big help. i don't take it for depression (nerve pain), but duloxetine is pretty good at banishing that kind of thinking for me anyway

iím intrigued

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Sagebrush posted:

is this thread going to be a cool thread about the biology of perception and cognition, or just a :2bong: thing?

I hope it doubles as a perception/cognition thread and also neurodivergernce thread


no intention to make it about tasting the rainbow cos you took sufficient acid

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

polyester concept posted:


for me the biggest problem was executive dysfunction

I totally get this, and it feels fuckin humiliating trying to explain to people how you didnít do something that is extremely straightforward and simple

Ciaphas posted:

i am not a medical professional but lol that's me & my adhd described to a fuckin T. get u a psychiatrist appt echi

funnily enough I emailed a dr who may have been helpful and he gave me the email of a clinical psychologist who may be able to help diagnose something .. but lol are you surprised to learn I havenít gotten around to emailing them? lmao

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004


:smugmrgw:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

hmmmm yeah that does keep coming up again and again. maybe there is something to it

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

DELETE CASCADE posted:

well we don't need another thread for "i'm old and have sadbrains"

youíre always free to not post

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

if you ask me we need more threads

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Share Bear posted:

ah i thought this was the sadbrains/divergent thread apologies for missing the context

oh it is, itís also consciousness etc. just brain poo poo

rotor posted:

no one knows what this thread is, post wahtever you want, thread topics are a fake idea

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

pregabalin has all but surpassed gabapentin, itís got much more favourable pharmacokinetics so dosing is far easier. itís gaining a lot of street cred for betting high in the best way so becoming a controlled drug across the world


I wonder if I was on stims if I could make more use of my time off. I dream of getting thrust master to a place where a VC will give me $100 and I can employ a person with artistic integrity to help me make the game and can progress out of my crappy pharmacy cocoon. I imagine a lot of poo poo mostly imagining being successful but then I realise my ideas or at least execution is garbage just go look at crimecommitter.com lmao clown university amirohjt

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

polyester concept posted:


when I first read this i knew i needed to see a psychiatrist

🤔

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Achmed Jones posted:

should this maybe be renamed the mental health thread?

well it was called ďmy brain is hosedĒ lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Ciaphas posted:

hadn't thought about that in a while, before the end of act 1 / beginning of act 2 in (game) CP2077 brought the nightmare literally front & center

what happens in the game?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

I am a diopter denialist

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

thatís loving sick

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

I had emailed a psychiatrist and he said he only prescribes drugs but he canít diagnose a person so he gave me an email link and so thereís this clinical psychologist who can diagnosis spicy brain disorder and itís $1550 so I better start saving

if I saved like $25 a week in less than two years I could maybe chat to this lady. who knows what sheíd say? apparently there has to be clear indication of adhd in childhood, and you might find this hard to believe but I was a weird as gently caress kid

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004


yeah itís a mess. the psychiatrist specialises in this area, and there expectation I suppose is that youíre coming to them to get medication for it.

I think the part I am ďworriedĒ about is that Iím not bad enough for treatment. which on the surface is a good thing to not be so bad, but I suppose I feel like Iím never reaching my potential and also epic failure (as Iíve elaborated) so it would kinda suck to find out that I am just a lazy fucker instead of being able to point to a cause of my uselessness, but well gotta try I guess.

thanks

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

loving lol

a) they are in the sense of flexibility but they become more concrete as we age

:argh:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

mildly hosed brain

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

thanks to sagebrush, I understand some
of those words :smugmrgw:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

oh lol now i get it

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Presto posted:

My brain lacks the "calculate how to catch a ball" hardware.

I never really played sports but somehow I am extremely adequate at throwing a ball especially overhead spiral throws of mini gridiron balls

Sagebrush posted:

multivariable calculus problem that a 3-year-old's brain can solve automatically and unconsciously.

or are our brains more like a neural network where it canít do the math, at all, but itís built up a network that can accurately predict the result of a throw. maybe this is semantics? same thing but different

dogs can do it too

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Sagebrush posted:

These are symptoms of depression and anxiety disorders.

hmm idk it seems like an effective method to increase the amount of perceived time before I have to do something I don't want to do

polyester concept posted:

look up bedtime procrastination lol. itís super common with adhd even if you have a job that you donít loathe. now that Iím on stimulants, paradoxically itís easier for me to go to bed a normal time around 10 instead of the 12, 1, 2 am nights i was pulling almost every day for years

hmm I do go to bed at those times

I've heard some things like it's the only time you're free or some other bullshit, but it's generally because at night time I have the ability to hyperfocus where I don't have any other time, and so it's effortless to stay up late

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

I think so yeah

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

I jsut want to be able to finish something

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

is it possible that drinking is bad for your mental health?


Iím trying to trick myself into believing that Iím happier when I donít drink, or more specifically, if I donít have any drinks in an evening then when I go to bed and also get up I tell myself ďIím so glad I didnít drinkĒ and I hope if I do it enough then when itís late arvo and I feel like a drink, instead of only focusing on the fun, maybe I also remember how pleased I am when I donít drink and maybe that influences myself into not drinking

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

I sent an email to some psychiatrist outfit

god I need to find a solution to this god drat piece of poo poo brain lol

I *could* be worthwhile. I really think it's possible

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

itís the right place


that sucks man. idk how to tell the difference between intrusive thoughts vs I just think bad things. my brains getting worse by the hour

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

nudgenudgetilt posted:

yeah, honestly i don't know the difference myself. i'm just thinking "i wonder if i could make it over the fence on the nearby bridge" is in the realm of intrusive thoughts rather than just bad thoughts.

yeah idk

like, the brain is sometimes a problem solving machine and sometimes existence feels very unappealing so my brain comes up with lots of solutions to that problem and hands them to me. not many of them are constructive

but yeah vent here for sure

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