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Lockback posted:The whole point of taking hostages is you don't just give them up. Russia would want something in return. In the case of Paul Whelan, the Russian authorities are still calling him a spy and they will probably never ever release him.
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If the merchant of death was so bad you would have already written your congressperson to sentence him to death or compromise him to a permanent end or whatever.
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Fast Luck posted:yeah but if nobody cares about him couldn't he just be thrown in as like a prisoner to be named later? Not nice to leave him rotting in jail No the Russians care or they wouldn’t have arrested him, it’s just the US really doesn’t. This Griner thing has been a story for months so bringing her home actively accomplished something
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Tae posted:Tuesdays and Fridays Yeah those dudes are the worst nba content I've ever actually listened to and mega suck.
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It's fine to notice that trading a notorious arms dealer for someone who brought weed into a country with strict drug laws feels lopsided; it doesn't make you a bad person. You can even do this while recognizing that Britney Griner rotting away in a Russian prison camp is bad and its good that she avoided that.
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It's more that Griner is a polarizing figure because she's a domestic abuser. People don't exactly want to trade for a poo poo head that would have been left to rot if they weren't a minorly famous person putting pressure on an administration.
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fast cars loose anus posted:It's fine to notice that trading a notorious arms dealer for someone who brought weed into a country with strict drug laws feels lopsided; it doesn't make you a bad person. You can even do this while recognizing that Britney Griner rotting away in a Russian prison camp is bad and its good that she avoided that. Agreed, weed is a schedule 1 federally banned substance and selling guns is protected by the 2nd amendment
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Lockback posted:The whole point of taking hostages is you don't just give them up. Russia would want something in return.
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Whelan would need a more blockbuster trade, you're not getting an (alleged) superstar spy for just some minor Griners. At least star (Robert Hanssen) for star with some future pick swaps. I do feel for Griner in that not being able to play in Russia significantly damages her potential earnings going forward all for what we ALL can agree is a victimless crime.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Edit Doltos posted:It's more that Griner is a polarizing figure because she's a domestic abuser. People don't exactly want to trade for a poo poo head that would have been left to rot if they weren't a minorly famous person putting pressure on an administration. While abroad with a friend, my friend was arrested in a US friendly country on obviously false charges (which were thankfully dropped after spending a week in prison) and I called the US embassy to see what sort of help they could provide (even for something like how to contact a lawyer who spoke English) and they basically told me to gently caress off because they "don't interfere or assist with" justice systems in other countries, not even for American citizens. Which is obviously bullshit in more ways than one. I guess if my friend was rich and famous, they would have done whatever they could to help out. ihatepants fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Dec 8, 2022 |
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JackBandit posted:I have a friend who was traveling in India and hit an unexpected checkpoint or something and had to do a bunch of acid to finish his stash. He definitely came back changed. Lol how was he expecting them to find his acid? It’s not weed, there are no acid sniffing dogs Fast Luck posted:he's just a nobody, i don't think they even arrested him to be a hostage and anyway they're getting back an arms dealer that you say is gonna tilt the balance of the war in Ukraine! throw him into the package! Danny would have got it done. mdemone posted:In the case of Paul Whelan, the Russian authorities are still calling him a spy and they will probably never ever release him. Paul Whelan is a scam artist and career thief who almost definitely misrepresented himself and then got in way over his head. He’s probably not a CIA asset, but he probably claimed to be (just like he faked half his police credentials and the experience he used to get his job in Russia in the first place). He’s a dipshit who hosed around and found out. Marc Fogel is the teacher who just had some weed in his bags and the US hasn’t even negotiated for him because he’s not classified as wrongfully detained.
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Isentropy posted:Whelan would need a more blockbuster trade, you're not getting an (alleged) superstar spy for just some minor Griners. At least star (Robert Hanssen) for star with some future pick swaps. I sort of wonder how many US players are gonna play in Russia going forward, either out of solidarity with Griner or paranoia that they might be next
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Paul Whelan got dishonorably discharged by the marines for stealing crayons
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hifi posted:If the merchant of death was so bad you would have already written your congressperson to sentence him to death or compromise him to a permanent end or whatever. It's too bad that the only two options for anyone is to have them murdered by the state or give them to a dictatorship that desperately wants their expertise to provide some measure of help in waging an unlawful expansionist war. That's literally all. Shame.
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DC Murderverse posted:I sort of wonder how many US players are gonna play in Russia going forward, either out of solidarity with Griner or paranoia that they might be next any American with any level of fame should not be traveling to Russia at all
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Britney griner is getting a hero’s welcome from all the male domestic abuser athletes. Kareem hunt throwing ticker tape and giving her a big hat
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DC Murderverse posted:I sort of wonder how many US players are gonna play in Russia going forward, either out of solidarity with Griner or paranoia that they might be next Don't know how much it will change if that's their best chance at making a living. Maybe solidarity with Griner knocks it down a bit, but for the paranoia part, the US/Canadian governments both put out GTFO warnings to players in the Russian hockey league and the number of players this year is pretty steady from the last couple of years.
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mdemone posted:any American with any level of fame should not be traveling to Russia at all Yeah no poo poo. Considering I would bet money she was setup specifically by her local handler there is no reason anyone should ever take money from oligarchs to play overseas, especially in Russia itself.
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It’s being held prisoner in Russia are you not reading the thread
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DeimosRising posted:Lol how was he expecting them to find his acid? It’s not weed, there are no acid sniffing dogs
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here to bless page 134.
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Someone start a December thread for christ sakes
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America got fleeced
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Away all Goats posted:America got fleeced
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Awesome
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That's too much!
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Ken is an underrated baller. Chun-li is much better.
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Blanka is Zion.
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