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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Schwarzegger’s not a perfect actor but you have no loving clue if your criticism is that he’s overacting. In what scenes does he even play it big?

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

He simply insists upon himself

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer
He what?

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Martman posted:

He simply insists upon himself

Been thinking i should finally watch the money pit as an adult.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Vegetable posted:

Schwarzegger’s not a perfect actor but you have no loving clue if your criticism is that he’s overacting. In what scenes does he even play it big?

he was emoting quite a bit when he was getting a handjob from locky

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019

IT BURNS posted:

One-dimensional and overacted, period.

Have you tried watching the show on your TV instead of looking at your phone tho?

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

IT BURNS posted:

One-dimensional and overacted, period.

I'm even more confused by this. drat, what happened to you.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
My head canon is that Saxon is actually all talk and has never gotten laid. His brother jerking him off was the first sexual experience of his life.

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

My head canon is that Saxon is actually all talk and has never gotten laid. His brother jerking him off was the first sexual experience of his life.

I'd say this theory is within the sphere of the perfectly possible.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

My head canon is that Saxon is actually all talk and has never gotten laid. His brother jerking him off was the first sexual experience of his life.
Yeah, that isn't a crazy read of the situation at all. I don't think it's 100% true but it's definitely plausible

IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012

ram dass in hell posted:

Have you tried watching the show on your TV instead of looking at your phone tho?

Have you?

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

A very important muscle.
Finally watched this show and all 3 seasons. Loved all of them. S1 is probably my favorite cast of characters, S2 was solid, loved the ending, S3 was just solid throughout.

S1 got me a little hooked and I was about to give up on it before I started getting into the point of the show. Jennifer Coolidge is a treasure, I wish she was in every season. Same with Natasha Rothwell. Uncle Ricos great too. Murray Bartlett killed it and reminded me so much of Basil Fawlty. Alexandra Daddario is a better actress than people give her credit for. Same with Connie Britton and Steve Zahn. I was kind of glad that the plot didn't involve Daddario getting killed like how I interpreted it in the first episode. Loved the non cathartic ending with her too, and same with Paula destroying Kai's life.

S2 was solid. Cheered for the prostitutes the entire time, loved that the manager discovered her sexuality. Hated the two couples, all four of them were repugnant people that shouldn't be together. A whole season of problems caused by adults not using their words and communication like adults. Felt horrible for Jennifer Coolidge but it was a great story. Loved her so much with the gun. Portia is the prime example of how so many tourists go missing every year. Love F Murray Abraham in everything, him and Michael Imperioli were great together, definitely reminded me of my Italian American side of the family. Love that they rehashed the go to Italy to connect with your roots and they hate you plot from Sopranos.

Slightly more boring in S3 but still pondering their endings. Managed to get through the whole season without remembering anyones names besides Mook and Gaitok. Was thrown off a bit by Jason Isaac's accent, faultered. Loved Gaitok and his story, started off bad but was a really great take on societal expectations in a different country and his ending is ultimately tragic I think. I want to watch all of the hotel lady's movies. The girl trio was a great story, loved how they presented their insecurities with each other. Love how grimy and seedy Zion is, great take on nice parent -> evil kid. Didn't really like Walter Goggins character or his story, kinda disliked his girlfriend a lot too. They filled in the miserable together quota that I thought was going to be the rich North Carolinian family's theme. It just wasn't as fun as the S2 couples, just miserable.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Doltos posted:

kinda disliked his girlfriend a lot too

:mad:

Ovenmaster
Feb 22, 2006
I am the master of ovens for some reason.
So did SNL, apparently. Always knew they weren't funny, but that was downright vile.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
It was ten seconds of making fun of her teeth. It was pointless and unfunny, basically SNL's calling card, but I didn't understand why there was so much backlash.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

A very important muscle.
Well I just didn't like that she seemed to be feeding in her own emotional attachment to a boyfriend that was uncaring and distant, as well as not really being developed that well as a character in her own right. The actress was perfectly fine, I just wish they did more with her or less with her depending on how much you liked Goggins storyline. I didn't like his character more if that helps. Making fun of her appearance is just a low blow but SNL sucks anyway.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

The Puppy Bowl posted:

It was ten seconds of making fun of her teeth. It was pointless and unfunny, basically SNL's calling card, but I didn't understand why there was so much backlash.

People really like Aimee Lou Wood.

idkacat
May 6, 2024

live with fruit posted:

People really like Aimee Lou Wood.

Also she specifically came out and mentioned she was hurt by it, and has struggled with being called ugly or gross for it, which is the big thing. She’s also said that someone inadvertently told her early on the job that Mike White had to fight for her to get the role because HBO didn’t want her, with the strong implication she was too ugly.

As someone else who never unnaturally straightened their teeth and has gotten judged for it, yeah I get it. Crooked (natural) doesn’t mean you don’t brush or whatever bullshit, and I would take my teeth or hers any day over alien Hollywood veneers.

If I feel it and I have a job where I don’t have millions of people judging my every physical imperfection. I can’t imagine what she gets.

idkacat fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Apr 16, 2025

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

bernard stieglers noetic processes of proletarization and the pharmakon, debord's spectacle, and even baudrillardian ideas of simulacra of signifiers and language are basically cybernetics.

Doltos posted:

Finally watched this show and all 3 seasons. Loved all of them. S1 is probably my favorite cast of characters, S2 was solid, loved the ending, S3 was just solid throughout.

S1 got me a little hooked and I was about to give up on it before I started getting into the point of the show. Jennifer Coolidge is a treasure, I wish she was in every season. Same with Natasha Rothwell. Uncle Ricos great too. Murray Bartlett killed it and reminded me so much of Basil Fawlty. Alexandra Daddario is a better actress than people give her credit for. Same with Connie Britton and Steve Zahn. I was kind of glad that the plot didn't involve Daddario getting killed like how I interpreted it in the first episode. Loved the non cathartic ending with her too, and same with Paula destroying Kai's life.

S2 was solid. Cheered for the prostitutes the entire time, loved that the manager discovered her sexuality. Hated the two couples, all four of them were repugnant people that shouldn't be together. A whole season of problems caused by adults not using their words and communication like adults. Felt horrible for Jennifer Coolidge but it was a great story. Loved her so much with the gun. Portia is the prime example of how so many tourists go missing every year. Love F Murray Abraham in everything, him and Michael Imperioli were great together, definitely reminded me of my Italian American side of the family. Love that they rehashed the go to Italy to connect with your roots and they hate you plot from Sopranos.

Slightly more boring in S3 but still pondering their endings. Managed to get through the whole season without remembering anyones names besides Mook and Gaitok. Was thrown off a bit by Jason Isaac's accent, faultered. Loved Gaitok and his story, started off bad but was a really great take on societal expectations in a different country and his ending is ultimately tragic I think. I want to watch all of the hotel lady's movies. The girl trio was a great story, loved how they presented their insecurities with each other. Love how grimy and seedy Zion is, great take on nice parent -> evil kid. Didn't really like Walter Goggins character or his story, kinda disliked his girlfriend a lot too. They filled in the miserable together quota that I thought was going to be the rich North Carolinian family's theme. It just wasn't as fun as the S2 couples, just miserable.
I also saw all three seasons this year in rapid succession, and I'd mostly concur except wtf Aime Lou Wood kicks rear end and was like one of the only good parts about season 3. How did you not like her??

Season 1 is easily the most dark comedic/funny and does the most with the 'luxury resort as a setting' thing. Armond is still the best character in the entire series and Murray "nailed it". I really dug the Mossbacher family, especially Quinn and Zahn, and Alexandra was great. It's also the most 'surreal' in it's ending and generally tightest plot/cast while still having good slow burning vibes the entire time.

Season 2 is the most imagery-based and vibing that they've done and really lets a lot of the combined scenery/setting+characters mesh and meld. The cinematography was great the entire time and I loved it from start to finish as it was such a treat to just watch and absorb. I also absolutely loved the prostitutes and Aubrey Plaza, and I was fully into the Ethan/Harper-Cameron/Daphne foursome thing and them all becoming basically the same in the end was great. Valentina was also fantastic even though she was no Armond. Loved that the Italian Family was basically three generations of the same patriarchy but in their own very generational way: you got the grandpa whose very old mid-century about it all "you don't rub it in her face that's disrespectful!" while still cheating and ignoring the impacts it has on family by never acknowledging it, and then you got the dad whose the same but feels remorseful instead of denial and tries to Be Better through therapy, and then you got the son whose trying to overly-academia and guilty about it while still partaking in the same behaviors like leveraging his mom's wellbeing in exchange for getting what he wants. The entire cast was the best so far. It had the most cohesive character study and best ending.

Season 3 was a tiny bit disappointing to me coming off the highs immediately after finishing Season 2 and feels like its the most spinning wheels in place (which is itself a theme I know) and a lot of the cast and plot lines were messy, underutilized, and didn't really do anything despite being an episode longer than before. The hotel (including guys like Fabian) was entirely insignificant & weak, and the best staff stuff was from Pam and even that was really brief. Walton felt mostly wasted in the end but I loved Aimee: she ended up being the highlight of the season. The gaycest plot felt like it was Mike just trying to up the antics for antics-sake but was not edgy enough to nail it nor meaningful enough to the actual show to matter. I think the Radcliffe family drama/plotline was pretty bad but I like Jason Isaacs, Patrick Schwarzenegger, and Parker Posey's accent a lot so those three carried it hard. I think it mostly lacked the dark comedy and tight cast+pacing of Season 1 and lacked the cinematography scene-chewing palpable tension of Season 2 which is a bit sad because Thailand is beautiful.

Greg The Cuck being a legit thing was pretty fun twist I didn't see coming; however, the main and most memorable highlight of the season was the Sam Rockwell / Walton ladyboy monologue, followed by Parker Posey getting excited that Piper was just like her and dropping out of the Buddha thing. I still liked season 3 because it's a great show to watch and slow cook with despite when it's not at it it's best. I'd rank them an easy 2 > 1 > 3.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

The Puppy Bowl posted:

It was ten seconds of making fun of her teeth. It was pointless and unfunny, basically SNL's calling card, but I didn't understand why there was so much backlash.

I think they also digitally edited her eyes to be all weird. it was a lovely jab.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
If Amy Lou Wood gets her teeth "fixed," she'll look like every other drat pretty actress that I can't tell apart. She sticks in my mind for that unique quality.

I have a hard loving time with the bulk of American actresses due to razor-thin beauty standards.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Xaris posted:

I also saw all three seasons this year in rapid succession, and I'd mostly concur except wtf Aime Lou Wood kicks rear end and was like one of the only good parts about season 3. How did you not like her??

Agreed. Watching her effortlessly obliterate Saxon was one of the highlights of the season, right behind Rick getting too much TMI about his buddy's journey to sobriety.

Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

The character and actress are charming. She mentions we used to have fun to Rick so we know he wasn't always so fixated on his past. It's clear she cares deeply for him. I'd argue she has the most pure motivations of anyone we see. To me she was fun to watch until her end.

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Das Boo posted:

If Amy Lou Wood gets her teeth "fixed," she'll look like every other drat pretty actress that I can't tell apart. She sticks in my mind for that unique quality.

I have a hard loving time with the bulk of American actresses due to razor-thin beauty standards.

Goon face blindness strikes again.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

AcidCat posted:

Goon face blindness strikes again.

In my case, the stereotype is totally true. I tell people apart by their hair better than their faces. It suuuuucks.

idkacat
May 6, 2024
This show has had two rich white lady celeb characters that I could have sworn were Jennifer Aniston.

In my defense at least Jaclyn also has a sort of Jennifer Aniston career path, seems like.

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

idkacat posted:

This show has had two rich white lady celeb characters that I could have sworn were Jennifer Aniston.

lol we got Mr. Magoo over here.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
My partner thought Michelle Monaghan was Sandra Bullock but she has some of the worst celeb face blindness of all time and thinks the thing that makes people look the most similar is their mouth shape.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

Worst Case Scenario

live with fruit posted:

People really like Aimee Lou Wood.

I think her character was extremely good. She'd call het boyfriend out on his poo poo, and kept him grounded as much as possible. She wasn't oblivious like some gold digging characters, and she wasn't mean and uncaring waiting for her man to die, like the rest of the gold digging characters.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah I really liked her. She was screamingly doomed, because that's how the show works, but I liked the positive effect she seemed to have on Saxon and maybe even the other lady she was always pulling around with.

I don't like using the word "wholesome" because it's so memey and denatured, but she genuinely fits the bill.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
I would be friends with Chelsea. She would nag the poo poo outta me for being down on myself and I would be grateful for it.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
Chelsea was a great character ably acted. Her arc is all about being clear eyed about the failings of others, and her own moral accounting, but being compelled by a savior complex to excuse Rick's unflappable selfishness. She is given the opportunity to compare Rick against a deeply flawed young man who is potentially growing into a better person due to her influence and to the transparently pathetic old men who buy the companionship they could never earn with their character. Yet at each opportunity for reflection on her toxic relationship, she rejects the obvious answer in favor of staying with Rick because he needs her. She makes her life about him, which is perfect for Rick because he never really considers her except as a tool for exploring his own self obsession.

Chelsea isn't a complex character, but her simple narrative is an important one. Tragically repeated innumerable times in reality.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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My ranking of character arcs this season:

1. Gaitok/Mook: At first I thought Gaitok was just a huge chump. And he was! He found his principles and then discarded them and stayed a complete chump throughout. Great fun, 10/10 would watch be a chump again.
2. Rick/Chelsea: The Darth Vader twist was super cliche but it was a fun caper and Chelsea was great.
3. The Ratliff mother/daughter: The mom's willful refusal to understand what country they were in was hilarious, she was impressively awful by the standards of a show full of awful people. I didn't find the daughter's change of heart very convincing but her mom's unrestrained glee at getting to groom her to be just as awful was worth watching.
4. Belinda/Zion/"Gary"/Pornchai: Kind of a low simmer for most of the season, Zion was hilarious and his hustle mentality was something we haven't seen much of since the show deals with people rich enough to be beyond it. Great commentary on the corrupting influence of wealth, watching Belinda turn around and ditch Pornchai the way that Tanya had ditched her (without even tipping him an envelope of cash like Tanya did) was a nice way to bring her story full circle.
5. Tim Ratliff: Spent way too long watching Tim being sleepy and/or terrified but Jason Isaacs is very watchable so whatever.
6+ All the other dumb losers from this very meh season. They dragged things out for 2 extra episodes and still felt very unfinished compared to previous seasons.

Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme
Mar 19, 2009

Gods don't make mistakes
I do think the thing that bothered me most about this season is we were primed for at least one character having a spiritual awakening. It could have been Gaitok, Piper, Lochlan, Tim, or less likely, Saxon or Rick.

For all its interest in Buddhism and spiritual growth, the only character who might follow through is Saxon. It's frustrating. I don't know what we're supposed to be getting out of it.

The son in season 1 who stayed in Hawaii might be the only character who had any real spiritual growth, who learned to leave material things behind and engage with the larger world. He should've been in this season.

I did enjoy this season because of the acting, but I'm not very satisfied with any character arcs. Gaitok might have had a complete character arc, but it sucked. He shot a man in the back and "got everything he wanted." If Rick were facing the other way and Gaitok saw a broken man carrying his dead love, it would've been a more satisfying confrontation with his beliefs vs. desires.

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004

Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:

I do think the thing that bothered me most about this season is we were primed for at least one character having a spiritual awakening. It could have been Gaitok, Piper, Lochlan, Tim, or less likely, Saxon or Rick.

For all its interest in Buddhism and spiritual growth, the only character who might follow through is Saxon. It's frustrating. I don't know what we're supposed to be getting out of it.

The son in season 1 who stayed in Hawaii might be the only character who had any real spiritual growth, who learned to leave material things behind and engage with the larger world. He should've been in this season.

I did enjoy this season because of the acting, but I'm not very satisfied with any character arcs. Gaitok might have had a complete character arc, but it sucked. He shot a man in the back and "got everything he wanted." If Rick were facing the other way and Gaitok saw a broken man carrying his dead love, it would've been a more satisfying confrontation with his beliefs vs. desires.

Tim absolutely has a spiritual awakening but it's complicated by multiple factors:

-It reifies the family's core problem (their total reliance on Tim), shifting his authority from a financial/material basis to a moral/spiritual one
-It comes in the form of a religious tradition different from the one foregrounded throughout the season
-Not only is he likely to avoid any consequences for the (semi-)attempted murder of his family, he's rewarded for doing so (in the form of said spiritual experience)

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

bernard stieglers noetic processes of proletarization and the pharmakon, debord's spectacle, and even baudrillardian ideas of simulacra of signifiers and language are basically cybernetics.

Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:

I do think the thing that bothered me most about this season is we were primed for at least one character having a spiritual awakening. It could have been Gaitok, Piper, Lochlan, Tim, or less likely, Saxon or Rick.

For all its interest in Buddhism and spiritual growth, the only character who might follow through is Saxon. It's frustrating. I don't know what we're supposed to be getting out of it.

The son in season 1 who stayed in Hawaii might be the only character who had any real spiritual growth, who learned to leave material things behind and engage with the larger world. He should've been in this season.

I did enjoy this season because of the acting, but I'm not very satisfied with any character arcs. Gaitok might have had a complete character arc, but it sucked. He shot a man in the back and "got everything he wanted." If Rick were facing the other way and Gaitok saw a broken man carrying his dead love, it would've been a more satisfying confrontation with his beliefs vs. desires.
I mean it's 'interest' is also interlinked with commoditization of said interests. like Rick had the chance to change course there at the end (and i think would have) and basically begged the spiritual advisor for help but she couldn't do it for material reasons and well, he hosed it up. And of course there's the Gaitok plotline where he sells it out for the material. I don't think Buddhism really played that much of a role in the season, the briefest segment was Jason talking to the head monk and going hmm that makes sense ok lorazepam time. but I do think it led to him starting to see things a little different.

Anyways I do think Saxon did have a spiritual awakening, or egg cracking. He's not fully there yet because he was still hiding the books and such, but it was the start of a journey which is the hardest part.

but yeah I didn't particularly care about any character arc and I think thematically it was messy and weak compared to 1 or 2

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

They could’ve had the son from s1 row his canoe from Hawaii to Thailand and suddenly appear at just in time to catch a stray round from Rick

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:

I do think the thing that bothered me most about this season is we were primed for at least one character having a spiritual awakening.

Gaitok did, he realized the Buddha's path is for losers. His eyes have been opened and he now thrives in the real world, where violence is the ultimate currency of the land.

Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme
Mar 19, 2009

Gods don't make mistakes

AcidCat posted:

Gaitok did, he realized the Buddha's path is for losers. His eyes have been opened and he now thrives in the real world, where violence is the ultimate currency of the land.

Ah yeah, I forgot about the scene where he watches Dark Helmet's speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQunC9jniqw

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IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012

AcidCat posted:

Gaitok did, he realized the Buddha's path is for losers. His eyes have been opened and he now thrives in the real world, where violence is the ultimate currency of the land.

One of my siblings is married to a Thai woman (and has actually stayed at this hotel in Koh Samui, lol) and said that the Gaitok/Mook relationship dynamic was pretty accurate in terms of what he experienced, i.e. that the woman usually pushes the man hard to succeed, get a promotion, embrace traditional roles, etc. The same could be said about lots of cultures, but he thought Gaitok's transformation was actually kinda tragic because he abandoned his beliefs and shot Rick in the back to get the girl and life he wanted.

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