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b-minus1 posted:Bif I expect more from you where are your reads Reads are like farts, if you have to force it, it's probably crap.
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Hal Insandenza posted:I was moving AN up my list, but the recent posts feel more town, AN seems like they are having fun Now see, when you relax and presume everyone is town in good faith, this allows only the most egregiously false-sounding things to trigger your alarms. If in fact ANarc is town, which I still doubt, I don't see how Hal can see what he claims to see so he might just know their alignment already. ##vote Hal Plus a townread on me this early is never a good sign either
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Dec 3, 2022 02:56
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wologar posted:
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Dec 3, 2022 03:40
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b-minus1 posted:I really don’t understand why you guys aren’t voting keane. His wologar case was one of the most flimsy cases I’ve ever seen. Wologar was posting normal reads like anyone else and keane kept trying to gotcha him over nothing. Keane called hal scum during jokephase, said he would vote him, eventually did vote after I asked him why he wasn’t, and then immediately went after wologar. Keane needs to be the vote today and if he is scum, hal is almost certainly scum. If you're that certain about Keane and that chain link, why not go for Hal first, that post of his was dodgy. Seriously you can reread AN's whole postcount in literally one minute, tell me what Hal's on about with "appreciating her joking around" or whatever. He was either defending AN as a scumbud or whiteknighting a town AN for reasons that make no sense.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:06
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Yeah I'm reading Maerlyn as town cause while I was just chilling out, she was starting up the exact same kind of slapfight with Yami that she normally gets into with me instead. But I don't think Keane is a good alternative to her at all.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:10
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CCKeane posted:b- is, once again, doing his thing where he accuses me of being scum and just says that a lot and hopes people will listen, which is of course absolutely brilliant thanks to the illusionary truth effect. Right ok but are you calling this dumb or scum
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Dec 3, 2022 18:17
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CCKeane posted:Anyway, 4 hours to spare so! Huh, so did Maerlyn not listen to the fun message, or did she get a more serious one
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Morning all, I'm really annoyed that the one time I literally sleep through deadline y'all apparently decided to only then go along with voting ANarc, and not Hal who I'd left my vote on. I'm down for trying again on ANarc today but I still think Hal's false-sounding defense is more actively scummy than AN's more generally lurky play. And it could have possibly been white knighting a town AN rather than defending a scumbro. ##vote Hal
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Dec 4, 2022 22:14
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saladscooper posted:Keane being self-aligned (lol that he rolled survivor again) is as good as a town flip when it comes to the info it gives us on scum. I have a feeling binus was killed partially to frame Hal (or potentially even Wind), What? Binus was active and wordy as hell, he prolly just got killed for everyone thinking he was town. Also he was super wrong on Keane, who I'm still mad is dead after his fun antics, so I doubt anyone cares what his reads are This is a big stretch for a justification, Salad is now third on the list
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Dec 4, 2022 22:17
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Cloacamazing! posted:I am very disappointed that after all of wol's talk, nobody with the lowest post count exploded. Hard same lol
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Dec 4, 2022 22:22
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WindwardAway posted:Which Hal post(s) are you referring to? This one here. Hal Insandenza posted:I mean I don’t have any strong scum reads at this point, but salad scooper is still on the list And after I called Hal out he followed it up with this. Hal Insandenza posted:Sorry I was just continuing the joke Just look over ANarcs whole post history, AN had barely been around too so I have no idea what would give Hal any sort of read at all, let alone "seems like they are having fun"
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Dec 4, 2022 22:24
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saladscooper posted:This is also possible. Bif what are your thoughts on my thoughts on wolo's behavior EoD? I'll have to reread the end of day first, when I caught up I was more caught up on the fact that Keane got lunched and being mad and might've missed wolo doing anything weird
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Dec 4, 2022 22:26
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saladscooper posted:I officially retract that framing, it makes zero sense and I have no idea what i was thinking 30 minutes ago when I wrote it Lol k between this and the claim Salads back off the list
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Dec 4, 2022 22:51
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shwinnebego posted:so does keane's death herald the end of bif's fartposting Yeah, I already wasn't sure if I could keep it up past D1. He really wrote a fun message to humor my request for voluntary alignment change, though. It was framed as a new wincon to post 3 fart jokes or puns per game day. Toalpaz posted:wow pretend i quoted exactly this but came to the exact opposite conclusion, i think this looks incredibly bad I'm also confused at Salad's conclusions here, yeah. Again. I want to believe he's town for that claim and that shameless "retraction" that just feels too fun to be scum but I'm keeping an eye on him. Since this is from a while back I better explain more how I disagree, but wait till I get this post down first so I can follow my own link here AnonymousNarcotics posted:I agree with this. Esp clo and plastic. Ok I agree with this reasoning here on Cloaca. AN still isn't flipped but calling it "a better case" makes little sense to me. I made a brief D1-level argument for why I thought AN was the best vote at one point, but it really didn't have much to it and no one else had much to add beyond vague "yeah I guess" kinda vibes about AN. My point I'd made about Hal was way better, and if anyone thought I had a point on AN before, the Hal case really flowed on from observing AN and could still allow for looking at AN next.
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So here's the Salad post Toal was griping about (and I also didn't think made much sense)saladscooper posted:Just skimmed the end of the day again, I think the scummiest looking people in that whole mess are wolo, Cloaca, and Plastic. Notably, Cloaca and Plastic show up for the swerve onto Anarc but don't swerve back onto Keane. I don't really follow why swerving to ANarc but not Keane is supposed to indicate anything about anybody. Like if ANarc is scum, then that would be hella town to stay put! But if not, then it didn't really matter to scum whether AN or Keane got lunched. But I do agree with Cloaca being scummy. Just for the justification given though, rather than any swerve activity.
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Hal Insandenza posted:Ha, well I just read salads cloaca case and I like the work there, perhaps I was wrong Hal agreeing here is a bit worrying though. I'm prolly gonna have a hard time paying attention to anything else until Hal dies.
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shwinnebego posted:(I often self-consciously do not have an explanation for my actions, or play based on vibes, whereas binus literally won't even acknowledge questions directed at him asking him to explain his reads. I suppose this might be six of one/half a dozen of the other to you, but I consider it qualitatively different) Just wanna say I totally get you here and agree with your self assessment
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Dec 5, 2022 04:26
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Monathin posted:I am keeping the thought in my head that the longer the game goes and bif is alive, the more likely it is that bif is scum. wologar posted:The same is true for Yami (now Wind). wologar posted:And Hal. That may be a terrible metric this game, tbh. Heh well can we go in reverse order here at least
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Dec 5, 2022 04:30
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shwinnebego posted:I know you’ve posted this before but what’s your case on Hal? I just finished lunch but if you check my posts it should be just a few back. Quick summary though, AN and Hal were my main D1 vibe reads already based on everyone else feeling like they could be town and them not giving me as much of a relaxed feeling there like it could easily be true. Then while I was sitting there on AN as the better option of the two, Hal comes in with a defense AN that I'm not saying was a strong defense or anything, just a fake sounding one.
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[quote="Maerlyn posted:I could see Bif killing binus (the ultimate ignore button). lmao Maerlyn" post="528197953"]I am still feeling Wind as scum because Toal made a good post here about Wind entering the game and her reads not evolving: Wind entering the game and seeing what Yami was thinking, sure...but if I'm town and replace town I don't think I default to the same reads as the person I'm replacing. Scum don't have the luxury of just throwing caution to the wind and coming up with some new take, there's a cautious vibe to it. I want to read more of Wind's posts after she joined the game and how deadline went down again too. There's another point I want to bring up but I need to see if I missed any other posts from Wind before I mention it (if her visitor has announced themself yet). So would vote Hal, Wind, gonna look at deadline and see what else sticks out. [/quote] Hm, this and your other post make some fair points. I was thinking Yami sounded legit in how he was annoyed at you focusing on him early, but he's pretty good at sounding indignant when he's scum too. Or it might've just been all the rl frustration seeping in regardless of alignment. I'm still hoping Hal can get over the line here but I'll at least consider Wind as an option today.
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maf edit, had to lmao so hard it broke the quote blockMaerlyn posted:I am still feeling Wind as scum because Toal made a good post here about Wind entering the game and her reads not evolving: Hm, this and your other post make some fair points. I was thinking Yami sounded legit in how he was annoyed at you focusing on him early, but he's pretty good at sounding indignant when he's scum too. Or it might've just been all the rl frustration seeping in regardless of alignment. I'm still hoping Hal can get over the line here but I'll at least consider Wind as an option today. [/quote]
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Also noting a few inconsistencies with those players. PlasticAutomaton posted:..Also guess I should clarify. I think Illusionis is also scum distancing from Anarc as they pushed and pushed but when time came to get rid of Anarc, they started desperately trying to float alternatives. One thing I'd add to this is that I'm really surprised there isn't a way bigger push to get right back onto AN to finish yesterday's business. ##vote ANarc But will you people listen to me about Hal next please
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Keane's memory already forgotten, for shame
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saladscooper posted:To me it gives the vibe of being around to swerve once and then calling it a day - not being engaged through the end of the day. I'd prefer someone who was cognizant of and reacting to both swerves rather than someone who did a swerve and then forgot about it. Ok this makes a lot more sense for why you'd think it, but I still wouldn't really draw that conclusion. A scum who's around for deadline and bothers to swerve once probably wouldn't want to actually stop paying attention in case things got to a no-lunch that made them look bad.
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wologar posted:The odd vibe I get from you goes beyond fart jokes (although I admit they were part of it). Not yet! It's nice!
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saladscooper posted:Could also be that all the potential vote leaders (keane, maerlyn, anarc, and me) were not-scum, and therefore the target of the swerve didn't actually matter Yeah that's definitely a possibility. Even in that case though, scum's job wouldn't be to keep things off a particular person, it'd be to look like they're still engaged and pretend they give a poo poo. So I think it's just background noise.
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Ugh imma just go to sleep again and wait for y'all to hopefully lunch Hal instead
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AN if you're sounding more townie does that mean you're actually scum
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shwinnebego posted:Bif on a scale of 1-5 how confident are you that Hal is scum 3.9
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wologar posted:Time for whatever this is: Feeling better about wolo since apart from not thinking Hal's a great lunch, these reads line up well with my own (plus extra credit for being paranoid about me) Would also rate Toal a bit higher
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By now another big reason I think Hal is scum is cause, usually when I got a townie lined up as my main suspect scum eat that poo poo up and it's easy as all hell to get them lunched
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I also see Hal never answered thisWindwardAway posted:Hal, I have a question. I was really interested in his answer. Not just to hear how his read on me sounded, but to flesh out that "most frustrating" label as well. I mean, I'm sure having me settle on him as my biggest suspicion based mostly on "vibe" would be frustrating of course. But Hal is familiar enough with my old-school arrogant hypertunnel ways that it seems kinda strange to be so bothered by a much more relaxed push on him.
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shwinnebego posted:bif has been marginally more convincing than other folks In this game? That's kinda messed up lol
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shwinnebego posted:and a variety of more compelling political strategies to accommodate this reality The Australian Greens are pretty big on this! Tons of door knocking (and the Brisbane floods) prolly went a long way towards that recent big win over here.
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WindwardAway posted:Idk about you but usually I see town redirectors make their claim specifically once they've caused a mech kerfuffle where theyre at fault Agreed, all this mess makes me wanna lunch Cloaca a bit more So that's Cloaca, ANarc and Wind I'd consider rn if Hal doesn't get lunched. But if we get to D3 or D4 and he's still alive, y'all are gonna wish we'd just sorted it today cause no one's still gonna have a clue about him lol
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Bifauxnen posted:Agreed, all this mess makes me wanna lunch Cloaca a bit more Just realised this wakeup post was confusing, I was agreeing on the part where a town redirector should claim ASAP once their role is creating confusion. That doesn't exactly flow logically into suspecting Cloaca, I just already suspect her a little anyway.
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Bleh fine, if that claim is legit at least scum might have to take Hal out instead of leaving him around for maximum LYLO paranoia ##unvote Maerlyn posted:Wait, AN says he's a cook and he did nothing? Well that's interesting
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Cloacamazing! posted:Yeah, there is nothing suspicious about this at all... Wind gains votes, suddenly there's a case on Hal, What do you mean suddenly I've been saying it all day ##vote Clo
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