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Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I, toalpaz, shall play.

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Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
My schedule has dramatically changed, so I wouldn't be surprised if my output is less prolific. A word of warning for my fellow players.

Is salad scooper AA AI?

I'm going to breadcrumb now:

Ajjdidnifjfifndkkskf not fjdnfjndksncjdnosnanaloanfndjnsma

I don't think I'm going to vote anyone either, I'm not convinced by any of these cases. They're no good. (/S /jk /LH)

##:vote keane

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Yeah, definitely a lot to read into there. good work bif.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Cloacamazing! posted:

Hmm. Looks like a basic substitution cypher at first glance, but the length of the words makes me suspect the message is in Finnish or something like that. Possibly something where you need to read every third letter, but we're short on vowels. Phonetically speaking, the first word kind of sounds like "I did nif" followed by static. In summary, I got nothing.

Oooh so close. thank you for trying through! That was a good post. Maybe now town is one step closer to solving the puzzle. :cloudnine:

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Maerlyn posted:

With me here? Absolutely (see av)

##vote Maerlyn

This is a real vote and I'll explain later tonight.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

b-minus1 posted:

Stop pocketing me

i also think b- is town

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
:kstare:

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
AN i don't want to know who they are, i just want to forget. let these stones go unturned.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

saladscooper posted:

OH YEAH I should tell yíall Iím Hated

Do we have to test this now?


Monathin posted:

I'm mostly waiting for Toal to explain their "real vote", i'm gonna be honest. Give us the goss, Toal!

Oh it's coming. Fr fr

I also agree with salad and keane tbf. I think that's a good gut read and I would extend it to say even more depending on d1 flip.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
##vote Cloaco

just so it isn't ambiguous where I think this is going, i think an early vote leader is more interesting than a 3 way tie with lots of noise. (scum are very comfortable in that position)

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

CCKeane posted:

Can you expand on your thinking here? Why Cloaca specifically?

That post where they unvotes seemed pretty self explanatory in a scummy self conscious manner.

But it's funny that my fellow posters immediately unvoted.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Monathin posted:

Hey Toal are you gonna give us your casework on Mae? Just keeping you honest here

Coming right up

Cloacamazing! posted:

Does that mean we're not getting an explanation on the Maerlyn vote now?

The content is almost ready, I'm so close.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Town:
Mona,
Binus,
Yami,
Schwinn,
Keane,
Toaly (me),
Woola,
Salad,
Plastic,
Bif,
An,

Scum:
Cloaca,
Mona,
Idk hal

Thoughts?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

PlasticAutomaton posted:

..Several, really. For one you have monathin as town and scum. For two you're missing two players. What do you think of Maerlyn and Illu?

There is a case on mae

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

PlasticAutomaton posted:

..Several, really. For one you have monathin as town and scum. For two you're missing two players. What do you think of Maerlyn and Illu?

There's a hidden player and only you know about them....? You're telling me you have Hidden knowledge?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I didn't receive a fake claim folx.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

CCKeane posted:

No really, this is a scum post.

Mona avoids making a claim on my alignment either way, so neatly dodges a call that could be used later, while allowing for a "with a heavy heart I must vote this person! I don't know Keane's alignment! How could anybody know! Woe is me!"

It's a scummy post!

I agree and I'd vote Mona!

But to be clear I don't think it was a very neat dodge. I've seen better dodges.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
i think an is always like this but i will shed no tears, i just think it's a waste of a day

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Yes a Yami omgus case, perfect. Classic. Shaping up to be quite a game.


Illusionis posted:

Toal I'm kinda suspicious of to be clear, seems like that could be confusing posting on purpose to avoid having to make actual alignment calls or content.

This is the first and last time I'll defend my d1, just becaus people tend to both mark when you haven't and mark when you do it too much.

My posting is self serving to just mine and only mine sense of humour.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I just don't think it's a fun direction Yami so I'm done considering mae today.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Let's set aside our differences and turbo Mona yami.

##vote Mona

What do u think of Mona case

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Yami Fenrir posted:

Why did you vote mona, toal?

I post about it, in the thread

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Tbqf the Maer case flytrap has exceeded all expectations. You've all played you're roles in my bit of theatre (I say it weird and derangedly and that doesn't come across in text very well).

I think anyone not catching onto it being a bit is incredibly scum content lurky. Except Yami because it's Yami.

Bif pointed out why it would be a stupid bit earlier. Even though her explaination is more clever that. I could have made up myself.

That is why I want to vote cloaca and Mona.

They're just like lil hamsters sucking away at the water bottle teat for some content to look like their investigating.

Player: 'haha funny mystery d1 post'

Mona cloaca: 'what is it's

Player: 'fufufu hehehe'

Mona cloaca: 'please, tell me what it means I am participating.,'

Player 2 : 'its a bit'

Mona cloaca:' pleaaaase what does it meaaaan I'm not scum and also maybe vote toal unless they spell out the bit'

Like this is clearly not a mystery right? Someone saying something and then stringing you along isn't mysterious or come across as a real case?

I quoted Mae's signup post for gods sake

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Hal Insandenza posted:

Guessing itís saladscooper due to having AAs old avatar

:yeah:

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

CCKeane posted:

Yowza folks are running hot!

I will cool down emotions will a COLD FACT: Antarctica is a desert!

More like dessert, because they're both best cold. Am I right?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I'm just not interested in keane, binus, or idk.

I think binus encouraging wooloos read is weird. I think that binus is moving with a purpose I don't fully comprehend at this time and it's pinging me.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
It really does feel like keane is playing a good town game, I truely don't understand the ire it is picking up among the commoners.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Cloacamazing! posted:

... excessive? Possibly?

We have to kill this fella. Look at the reasoning on desplay here....

My theory is: take this player at their word.

But I still believe they're a killer!

This is baffling content.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

This is a rear end

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
##vote maerlyn

i just want to see what happeneses.


Side note, liking yami/wind less now but i have to balance that with my keane theory + pushing the game along to interesting points.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
yeah mona the theory is just me thinking keane is town. I liked the stuff on mona and also cloac(?) i think that is keane but I didn't have strong feelings on wololo

re the vig? I don't give a poo poo because there's no evidence of a vig and the players are being cagey as gently caress about their role afaik.

I don't care if people have vigs or not vigs.

whats interesting to me is the decision to claim it day one (and try and describe it's powers so that scum can escape the vig?) + people reacting by saying 'oh yeah third party killer or scum' with that kind of comment just passing from the collective memories of us all.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Toalpaz posted:

yeah mona the theory is just me thinking keane is town. I liked the stuff on mona and also cloac(?) i think that is keane but I didn't have strong feelings on wololo

re the vig? I don't give a poo poo because there's no evidence of a vig and the players are being cagey as gently caress about their role afaik.

I don't care if people have vigs or not vigs.

whats interesting to me is the decision to claim it day one (and try and describe it's powers so that scum can escape the vig?) + people reacting by saying 'oh yeah third party killer or scum' with that kind of comment just passing from the collective memories of us all.

because blase 3rd party killer reads is a scum mind relic.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Cloacamazing! posted:

My own theory on the wol situation right now is that he definitely has some sort of killing ability, which is not a vig, see exhibit A:

like, 'yes i believe they're a killer but not for any of the reasons of the claim?"

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

b-minus1 posted:

For what itís worth, Maerlyn claimed a role to me private that makes me think sheís town. I admit thereís an outside chance that sheís scum, and tbh she was pinging my scumdar early in d1, but I donít think she is the best choice for today. Keane has to be scum. When in doubt, go with the sure thing.

yeah I dont know if claiming vt d1 in role madness is very town or scum leaning. it's mostly unhelpful survivalist posting.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Here's something that has me feeling bad about yami + yami replacement

to have a d1 replacement hop immediately onto yami's read....

idk... kinda feels like this:

a town reader replacing a town role, they have to reevaluate the game and come up with their own conclusions.

a scum reader replacing a scum role, they have a limited area to make moves and push in (their scum mates aren't IDEAL pushes d1) and they're mostly interested in not rocking the boat.

i think settling back down on mae given that she was at -7 at the time 12-24 hours from deadline means that wind is scums but idk. I don't want this to be keane's death knell post but I'm just going to say i'm open to turboing windward

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
keane's case is fine woloo and like, is the basics of any case in the game.

i think he correctly identifies an inexplicable opinion, and in mafia if a person has an inexplicable opinion most players have to assume it's a scum agenda. that's how the game works

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Maerlyn posted:

Actually I don't feel like fighting it that much.

I'm not sold on Keane as scum (I would have voted Yami over him but I'm not the type to vote out replacements although Wind joining and coming to the same conclusions/voting me is pretty funny, one of the reasons I considered Yami scum is he knows I'm easy to push a case on so his asking to slap fight didn't feel like a joke but just getting rolling as scum/not seeing an obvious thread to start pulling on and defaulting to me...which is why I called him scum in my reply, to gauge his reaction and because it felt like something scum Yami would do).

vote wind

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Monathin posted:

I do not like the framing of why binus was killed here at all.

i agree

saladscooper posted:

An enabler of backups! Interesting idea, but it sucks poo poo having it out of the picture this early.

I think I'm gonna fullclaim, cause my role's not all -that- powerful and I've already drabbled out my passive trait.

Hi everybody, I'm Wendy Swan. I'm an annoying teen prodigy, and a Hated Snoop. My snoop lets me see if someone was visited or visited someone else, but not which happened, or who they visited, or what they did. So apparently the teen prodigy does not have a prodigious talent for snooping.

Last night I snooped Maerlyn and got a positive response, so if her claims of being vanilla are true we know at least one person visited her. Not all that surprising, I'm afraid.

Keane being self-aligned (lol that he rolled survivor again) is as good as a town flip when it comes to the info it gives us on scum. I have a feeling binus was killed partially to frame Hal (or potentially even Wind), so I'm wary about moving there for today. In fact I'm most suspicious of how wolo looks now that Keane's flipped non-scum - I think it's possible wolo was looking to create chaos by jumping on a few EoD swerves that he knew were onto town. So that would make Maer and Anarc town in my eyes at this point.

So that's Hal/Wind/Maer/Anarc I'd rather not vote. I guess I'd be willing to hit Mona today, but I'll need to reread/watch and wait.

don't like this use of power

don't like windward

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Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I read the AN swerve after the fact, but I think it's worth looking at.

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