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Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you

Nodoze posted:

Ok, we can finally talk about the teams event now that the cat is out of the proverbial bag.

The Finals will be shown on ESPN2 on August 1st at 11pm EST

https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-...om-seen-sports/

Reminder this is tonight!


RBA Starblade posted:

Just so everyone sees it looks like the above is confirmed and it'll stream on Youtube in September.

They are still trying to work on a TV deal too

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Pretty bummed out that the vegas show got closed down, I wanted to go

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


It's closed? You're supposed to buy tickets there to be able to see the upcoming untelevised tournament, it's going to be a thing at least through October I thought.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

"Are you prepared to take up my burden, then? If you slay the heart, then yours must take its place—and you must take mine. The Dutchman must always have a captain."
Hair Elf
https://www.casino.org/vitalvegas/battlebots-destruct-a-thon-to-close-per-internal-memo/

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Well that's a bummer all around.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Not really a huge surprise ticket sales are down. Hard to imagine ongoing interest in a several night a week show in Vegas that isn't some washed up singer or cirque du soleil.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
F1 really did seem to gently caress them up good, too

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

They had finally gotten a license to serve alcohol, which would have massively increased profits and it's dumb it took over a year to happen

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS


That sucks, I took my kid to Destructathon for his birthday, drove all the way there from Oregon. He even got to yell "It's Robot Fighting Time" into the mike w/the announcer.

Pararoid
Dec 6, 2005

Te Waipounamu pride
It seems like things are pretty bad:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
I guess they figured it out? Or they're gonna bankrupt themselves trying to make it work.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Schedule released for the FaceOffs. I am surprised to see some of these teams because these are billed as "prequalifying matches" for the world championship, and you'd think, like, Lucky, Jackpot and Malice would not need to prequalify at all.





rarbatrol
Apr 17, 2011

Hurt//maim//kill.
A little concerning that they didn't have an actual photo of Ufwoe.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

rarbatrol posted:

A little concerning that they didn't have an actual photo of Ufwoe.

It's the first purely-digital fighting bot.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


rarbatrol posted:

A little concerning that they didn't have an actual photo of Ufwoe.

Probably still being actually built. Many teams are not able to actually build their bots until they know they are actually going to be able to compete. Ufwoe hasn't competed anywhere before.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Traves T. also looks unfinished, so I'm guessing it's a newbie battle.

Kind of curious how this was set up -- I agree that there are names here that I'm surprised to see require a play-in. Some of them are underperformers, but, like, Bloodsport is always solid.

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

Team Hypershock's pneumatic flipper.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Traves T. is also a newbie bot, but has fought a few fights during the Destruct-a-thon show. Where Ufwoe hasn't fought anything and will be a completely new bot from a rookie team (not sure who).

Also think it's probably safe to assume that these fights are more for the unknown bots than the known teams. Nothing on the Faceoffs announcements says anything about winning to get in Championship VIII.

3 out of the 4 Faceoffs posted here so far have 3 well known teams vs a team that isn't well known. So it's likely a way for the unknown bots to show they belong.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Yeah, if they're not play-ins and just exhibitions, that makes more sense. The veterans are a pretty good roster of known but not undefeatable.

Bertha the Toaster
Jan 11, 2009
What on Earth is going on with Warthog? Is it a drum spinner? A giant wheel?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Also think it's probably safe to assume that these fights are more for the unknown bots than the known teams. Nothing on the Faceoffs announcements says anything about winning to get in Championship VIII.

3 out of the 4 Faceoffs posted here so far have 3 well known teams vs a team that isn't well known. So it's likely a way for the unknown bots to show they belong.

Yeah, I guess calling them "prequalifying" doesn't actually say anything about what it means for WCVIII.

I mean, I assume they'll be taking the results into account for the newbies/weaker bots when making the field, but a lot of the established bots are probably just teams who were down to do some exhibition fights.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Dude Perfect & Mark Rober recently did a Battle Bots battle... with the assistance of Ray Billings and Aren Hill.

Here's their video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_a1GJWaH70

and Ray Billings discussion of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTlfXYiiec4

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Dude Perfect & Mark Rober recently did a Battle Bots battle... with the assistance of Ray Billings and Aren Hill.

Here's their video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_a1GJWaH70

and Ray Billings discussion of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTlfXYiiec4

Fun but it certainly gave me a newfound appreciation for the rules and limits at Battlebots

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

RBA Starblade posted:

Fun but it certainly gave me a newfound appreciation for the rules and limits at Battlebots
Oh poo poo the arena breach right at the end had to have been a wake up call. Jesus.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The final bot just being blip in a mouse costume was pretty funny

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

What did you do, Ray?

dwarf74 posted:

Oh poo poo the arena breach right at the end had to have been a wake up call. Jesus.

Yeah that was a :stare: moment

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I always thought he'd be the major science youtuber most likely to seriously injure himself, maybe this close call will get him to tighten up safety a bit.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Tunicate posted:

I always thought he'd be the major science youtuber most likely to seriously injure himself, maybe this close call will get him to tighten up safety a bit.

The backyard scientist dude is 100% going to blow off a limb or burn down his home one day. Mark Rober is an OSHA safety video compared to him.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

PostNouveau posted:

The backyard scientist dude is 100% going to blow off a limb or burn down his home one day. Mark Rober is an OSHA safety video compared to him.
My vote is for William Osman.

https://youtu.be/YvIMIUYju1w?si=iZYAOqxrFaq3HgEX

Osman is also an old Battlebots safety guy and knows tons of them. And bought an old Red Devil for like 4 grand. And has been in Mark Rober videos. The circle is complete.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Osman's house already burned down, the odds of it happenjng to someone twice are practically null

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Tunicate posted:

Osman's house already burned down, the odds of it happenjng to someone twice are practically null
And it, shockingly, was just a boring-rear end wildfire, and not, say, a heat-activated flamethrower.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Dude Perfect & Mark Rober recently did a Battle Bots battle... with the assistance of Ray Billings and Aren Hill.

Here's their video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_a1GJWaH70

and Ray Billings discussion of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTlfXYiiec4

Finally got around to watching it and the obvious fakeness of most of it is painful

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Oh it's definitely scripted antics, no question

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you
NHRL today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfp12Dimttw

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I used to love Battlebots as a little kid, like the early seasons, got the toys you could build. like the old vintage Backlash and Deadblow metal ones which apparently I shouldve saved so I could sell them on ebay in 2024. Loved Toro.
I've kind of been catching up to some of the later seasons available on Discovery, and am I right in thinking that eventually people kind of figured out an optimal battle bot model and there stopped being more of the goofy ones? I don't even see a lot of pure "send them to the sky" flippers like Toro. I guess there's goofy stuff like Huge that I see, but watching a lot of these more recent seasons I'm disappointed by the fact it just seems like there's 7 more or less similar wedges with saws on them often just competing against each other. That's why it's almost refreshing when that one that's just like a mobile gun with those twin lawyers shows up, even if it doesn't really seem like something that ever wins.
With that said though, drat that one tournament where Hypershock just tore through robot after robot with super fast knock outs was loving awesome.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Punkin Spunkin posted:

I used to love Battlebots as a little kid, like the early seasons, got the toys you could build. like the old vintage Backlash and Deadblow metal ones which apparently I shouldve saved so I could sell them on ebay in 2024. Loved Toro.
I've kind of been catching up to some of the later seasons available on Discovery, and am I right in thinking that eventually people kind of figured out an optimal battle bot model and there stopped being more of the goofy ones? I don't even see a lot of pure "send them to the sky" flippers like Toro. I guess there's goofy stuff like Huge that I see, but watching a lot of these more recent seasons I'm disappointed by the fact it just seems like there's 7 more or less similar wedges with saws on them often just competing against each other. That's why it's almost refreshing when that one that's just like a mobile gun with those twin lawyers shows up, even if it doesn't really seem like something that ever wins.
With that said though, drat that one tournament where Hypershock just tore through robot after robot with super fast knock outs was loving awesome.

As far as flippers go, Bronco and Hydra both showed up in the discovery seasons and did fairly well, and Blip is pretty good as a new bot

Vertical bar spinners are definitely on-meta right now, but I think a big part of that perception for the discovery season is Bite Force being incredibly good as a robot. It has an almost perfect record, only losing once, against Awakened Chomp.

They're definitely talking about rules tweaks to make the forks/wedglet four wheels vertical spinner a little less effective. One thing is adding some 'gopher holes' and a less perfectly flat arena to make forks more of a liability

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Oct 3, 2024

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Punkin Spunkin posted:

I've kind of been catching up to some of the later seasons available on Discovery, and am I right in thinking that eventually people kind of figured out an optimal battle bot model and there stopped being more of the goofy ones?

There is a meta you can see appear, but there're also a lot of very effective robots you could easily bet on taking the win who won't fall into the "wide base vertical spinner" category.

Hypershock succeeds through driving and tenacity as much as through having a vertical spinner, and Whiplash only has a spinner for style points when you compare it to something like Biteforce.

There is a lot of tech progression under the hood, and a lot of new or revisited design concepts (Blip and Hydra mentioned as flippers but way more powerful than old systems). Blip team also makes a robot that punches, and both are designs around component miniaturization, which also gives a robot like Copperhead robustness.

Tombstone is a tried and true, brutal industrial design from a prior era and while it'll look the same, it is apparently currently undergoing modernization with 3D printed rubberized fire-reducing internals.

Meanwhile, Sawblaze looks like an evolution of Comedy Central designs (angry dust pan) but with next-level efficiency from armor to drive to positioning and weapon strikes. Similarly, Huge just looks silly but gets very deadly as it evolves.

Oh and Claw Viper is also a loving terror now despite being a control bot. There are some good bitey designs for that matter.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016


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I was, in a way, the one who had to leave.

i like gary gin :)

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
The vertical spinner meta has gotten pretty overwhelming, but they also deliver the destruction, so it's hard to complain too much.

Also people have gotten a lot of success with anti-verts like Sawblaze and Huge, so it's not "optimal" in that it's unbeatable.

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Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I don’t remember what the robot was called but it was super fast and had the control arm. I could see super fast robots being a thing for just how much control you have.

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