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B33rChiller




Hey, problem solved!
Have a little of this
https://voca.ro/15k1Mzr7yCbb


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B33rChiller posted:

Tried a new patching idear I picked up on the youtubes the other day:
High speed clock into a euclidean rhythm generator. Set to whatever odd length, and the steps somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4. Then feed the output of the rhythm generator into a clock divider. basically an unsteady clock running the divider. Get you some drunken time signatures.
https://voca.ro/13BPhoUXgnsG

Really neat rhythm on the snap/snare around the 1:30 mark. Wonder if you could high pass isolate it then use an envelope follower to play another instrument with that rhythm. I'm saying that as a reminder to try it myself as much as anything, but have a go!

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Ha! Yeah, extraction is the only way I could recreate that. Nearly everything I make has some sort of generative element to it, either probability gates cutting triggers, bpm swung by chaotic lfo, s&h modulating the pattern on a rhythm generator, all kinds of things that make it functionally impossible to play the same way again.


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B33rChiller




https://vocaroo.com/1oCV2tmaXuS4
Attempts to make a 303 acid tone ended up getting derailed into this. Very satisfied with the bass sound in this. It's mostly droning, but has stereo flavour. Messing around with using a folded wave to modulate the panning at audio rate.


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Finger Prince


my brain died and forgot how to use VCV rack mostly, but it did make me learn one thing... how to use the mod matrix on my Virus! I understand routing LFOs to envelopes and things like that now, and now I can do even more wild stuff on that thing!

I really need to figure out my cobbled together sounds and signals from different things go into computer somehow and then the computer plays back the sound, maybe using the same device? Or not?
I feel like I need to reconfigure my whole setup just to use a different input device. I feel like I'm missing some kind of fundemental multi-input hardware interface thing.
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B33rChiller




Taking wild guesses here, but there's a bunch of different ways to do it. You could mix everything outside your computer, and send it all in as a single stereo signal, you could have an interface with an input for every instrument / microphone, and mix in your computer. You could get fancy, and have a mixer that works as a multichannel interface / recorder, and do all of that at once. You could record every sound / part / instrument separately on a field recorder, and put the SD card into your computer to assemble music.
There's lots of options. Some cheap, some free with a webcam, some low cost(different from cheap), and there's probably no top on the cost either. Probably a lot of costly options if you're looking to send more than stereo into your computer simultaneously.
I have a small mixer that sends the final mix in, and plays the stereo out from the computer in the mix that goes to the monitors and headphones. So if I enter to do anything with it in a daw, I wouldn't be able to apply ffx to single instruments, it would be on the entire stereo in.
I think the mixers and interfaces that send each channel separately would need individual analog to digital converters for each channel, bumping the cost every time you build in another port.
I mostly mix in the hardware, and record to an SD card now, apart from vcv rack.
This looks pretty wicked hot
https://youtu.be/VDjXpacyg9Y?si=5Dx7QyyHOavwWCKk


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B33rChiller posted:

Taking wild guesses here, but there's a bunch of different ways to do it. You could mix everything outside your computer, and send it all in as a single stereo signal, you could have an interface with an input for every instrument / microphone, and mix in your computer. You could get fancy, and have a mixer that works as a multichannel interface / recorder, and do all of that at once. You could record every sound / part / instrument separately on a field recorder, and put the SD card into your computer to assemble music.
There's lots of options. Some cheap, some free with a webcam, some low cost(different from cheap), and there's probably no top on the cost either. Probably a lot of costly options if you're looking to send more than stereo into your computer simultaneously.
I have a small mixer that sends the final mix in, and plays the stereo out from the computer in the mix that goes to the monitors and headphones. So if I enter to do anything with it in a daw, I wouldn't be able to apply ffx to single instruments, it would be on the entire stereo in.
I think the mixers and interfaces that send each channel separately would need individual analog to digital converters for each channel, bumping the cost every time you build in another port.
I mostly mix in the hardware, and record to an SD card now, apart from vcv rack.
This looks pretty wicked hot
https://youtu.be/VDjXpacyg9Y?si=5Dx7QyyHOavwWCKk

I woke up in the middle of the night, and among the 1000 other things my brain decided 2am was the ideal time to think about, I think I realized my stuff is just hooked up in a dumb kind of way. But now I think about it, I feel like it's hooked up like that for a reason and I'm pretty sure "because you were being thick when you did it" isn't the reason (though not outside the realm of possibility).
Like I can picture how it makes sense logically in my brain, but in practice it's just a cobbled together hodgepodge and it takes me 20 minutes of loving around to get sound from one thing to come out of my speakers or headphones, but then something else won't play nice.
What I would like is a magic box that I can plug my USB midi controllers, 5 pin midi cable, stereo audio patch cables, etc in to, and then plug that in to the computer via USB C or firewire or whatever, and record both audio and midi data into the DAW.
I've thought about mixers, like that zoom mixer, but recording to SD and then plugging the SD in and importing the files seems like a pointless extra step, and won't include the midi stuff.
My audio interface purports to do this, but in practice it kind of wants to be an external sound card and gets weird if you don't exclusively use it for everything. Why don't you use it for everything, you ask? Because it's just.... It's not great. The knobs don't make sense. Which is probably more on me than the equipment.

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Yeah, the all in one with midi is a bit of a unicorn I think. That zoom mixer works as a 12 channel interface as well as onboard recording, so you could just record in the DAW, or use it standalone to mix and record live.
Way above my use case anyhow. You might want to look at different interfaces that make more sense to you. I think some of them have 5pin midi too.


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Yeah, the all in one with midi is a bit of a unicorn I think. That zoom mixer works as a 12 channel interface as well as onboard recording, so you could just record in the DAW, or use it standalone to mix and record live.
Way above my use case anyhow. You might want to look at different interfaces that make more sense to you. I think some of them have 5pin midi too.

Maybe what I need is just a powered USB hub and a newer interface that can do everything over USB instead.
I have a Virus Ti, so it can do the whole USB midi thing on its own, but the problem is when you plug it in to the computer it goes "oh you must want to use the Access Virus VST!". No bitch I bought you for the knobs, if I wanted to use a plug-in I'd have got a plug-in! So I use the regular dumb midi to record midi notes with it. Or just forget midi altogether on it and treat it like a regular audio input and not try to get too clever, because I am not when it comes to this stuff.

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I should have guessed Arturia makes the thing I want, given their whole deal is interfacing, and it isn't even that expensive.
https://www.arturia.com/products/audio/minifuse/minifuse4
This is what I want my ancient TC electronics interface to be. Technically unit can do most of that, on paper, but I dunno. It came out 20 years ago, I've had it for 15, and based on nothing I just feel like the drivers for it just aren't up to the task. The hardware is solid, I'll still keep it in a drawer somewhere if I upgrade.

B33rChiller




just hit record as I was messing around setting up a voice. I mapped a knob on a midi controller to range across 3V, and put that into a quantizer, then through a slew limiter for long glide, but make sure it lands on something chromatic. The 16th note modulation is 2 oscillators modulating each other, the primary voice being FM'd, and in turn, providing audio rate pwm to the modulating oscillator. Both of these are going through vcas for variable indexing.
https://voca.ro/14MRMJbWP2H9

gate-> envelope gen -> opens VCA to allow random voltage to open another vca, allowing audio to FM input or PWM input.

Then I took the output of that and did a bunch of funny stuff with it. octavers, filters, comb filters, mixer with feedback, a bunch of ring mod and rectification.


It was initially an attempt at putting together a noise machine in vcv rack, LOL


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B33rChiller




Befaco kickall does lasers real good
https://voca.ro/1e3k8mHV9e2T


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B33rChiller




Squelch squawk
https://voca.ro/1gD8yRsibZlk


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B33rChiller




I'm liking how the bass voice changes over time. There's like 3 other, higher register voices that I still want to tweak (one is just raw square waves), but I like how this patch is coming together.
https://voca.ro/1lBo4VxfqKX7
The noise swell is actually a couple rhythms with gate signals hitting low pass gates (fed with a variety of noises) at 24X the master clock.
Befaco Noise Plethora is a super varied noise generator. Almost tempted to get the hardware version. Actually, that's true of all the Befaco stuff in VCV Rack. Freaking DivKid got me with 0chd. May Émilie Gillet live a long and happy life. Grids is in there with 0chd in the "Can't patch without it now" category.

ETA another doot
https://voca.ro/17WSCoPJiX5S

B33rChiller fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jan 16, 2024


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watho


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

https://voca.ro/14IsHu1yOUNV

working on something chill for once



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BigClutteredJoey-mobile.mp4
thank u vanisher for the sig
and thank u nesamdoom for the good loops

B33rChiller




Something different for today.
I've been watching zoom court on youtube, and a fella decided that he couldn't pay his fines, and just said to the judge that he has more time than money, so he decided to just go to jail.
The judge was not having it, and said some powerful stuff in his decision.
I sampled it, and cut out the guy's name and interruptions, and played it through some delays and reverb and chorus, with a slow lfo slightly modulating the sample playback speed.
https://voca.ro/1mPIvsYe4eLA


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casio digital piano through guitar pedals.
Tryn'a discover chords through denial and error
https://voca.ro/1f3xFG2ICcnv


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B33rChiller posted:

casio digital piano through guitar pedals.
Tryn'a discover chords through denial and error
https://voca.ro/1f3xFG2ICcnv

what you wanna do with this is record a single C and let it ring out and then sample the tail and play chords with



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BigClutteredJoey-mobile.mp4
thank u vanisher for the sig
and thank u nesamdoom for the good loops

watho


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

also put a bangin donk onit



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BigClutteredJoey-mobile.mp4
thank u vanisher for the sig
and thank u nesamdoom for the good loops

B33rChiller




Those are good idears, but I don't have a sampler. I was messing with my piano ( the only truly polyphonic instrument I have.)(ok, fine, I have a bass guitar. That's not the same)

I could mix this signal with some donk doots, if I bust out the modular gear, and mix it in the box.
That's another experiment for the to do list.


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Cabbages and Kings


Shall we be trotting home again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTDcdcSxuUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXdRPHscZkc

extending my ability to be annoying deeply into the video realm

Somehow I've already hemmorhaged the roughly $3000 I was told it would take to make a "complete" LZX system but there's easily another $3k in gen3 modules I would buy right now if I had the cash and that does not include vaporware like Chromagnon or whatever Mempal MK2 ends up being when it launches in 2027 for $5000.

Lars@LZX is helpful and super responsive. The two existing video synthesis discords are great hugboxes wooing me down a weird path where I now own, uh, 2-3 camcorders, VCRs, and a half mile of RCA and BNC cable.

e: yes, I was inspired to aim a camera at an oscilloscope by that new Squarepusher video. His is much better but I owned my own scope and he had to borrow one, which I guess says something about the GAS habits of actual musicians vs overly resourced tone deaf computer touchers.

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Cabbages and Kings posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTDcdcSxuUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXdRPHscZkc

extending my ability to be annoying deeply into the video realm

Somehow I've already hemmorhaged the roughly $3000 I was told it would take to make a "complete" LZX system but there's easily another $3k in gen3 modules I would buy right now if I had the cash and that does not include vaporware like Chromagnon or whatever Mempal MK2 ends up being when it launches in 2027 for $5000.

Lars@LZX is helpful and super responsive. The two existing video synthesis discords are great hugboxes wooing me down a weird path where I now own, uh, 2-3 camcorders, VCRs, and a half mile of RCA and BNC cable.

e: yes, I was inspired to aim a camera at an oscilloscope by that new Squarepusher video. His is much better but I owned my own scope and he had to borrow one, which I guess says something about the GAS habits of actual musicians vs overly resourced tone deaf computer touchers.

Hey man! Thanks for dropping in to the doot thread
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Gonna read your post now.

Eta: heck yeah, keep making weird poo poo. That doot sounded good and wet.
I recorded some donks, now to put that piano track into vcv rack, and mix in the donks.

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watho posted:

also put a bangin donk onit

How's this?
https://voca.ro/1ggyPscQZv0f


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watho


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.


this what it feels like to drop e in silent hill



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BigClutteredJoey-mobile.mp4
thank u vanisher for the sig
and thank u nesamdoom for the good loops

B33rChiller




watho posted:

this what it feels like to drop e in silent hill
I hit record on my field recorder and asked my daughter what a donk was, and to make that sound. Hehehe.


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B33rChiller posted:

I hit record on my field recorder and asked my daughter what a donk was, and to make that sound. Hehehe.

oh hell yeah. a future pioneer in electronic music that one :3:



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BigClutteredJoey-mobile.mp4
thank u vanisher for the sig
and thank u nesamdoom for the good loops

Cabbages and Kings


Shall we be trotting home again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdwbX6kAvO4

A friend of mine has been getting into loop tape stuff and he sent me a 4 minute track that included him banging on a synth as well as.... uh, audio from old french cassette tapes, I think? So I chopped it up in morphagene, added some suitably dooty ambient verby bells, then took the image he had provided me along with the track and jammed through the LZX machine tied to the audio to some extent in various ways

the visual end result is a bit more stochiastic than I am really stabbing for with ambient stuff but mother of god is this poo poo twitchy to modulate, especially when you didn't have $1000 for LZX oscillators and are making do with a $200 mainbow oscillator block for the moment....

edit: actually the image was edited into a 24 frame animation in pixlr first so all of this stuff is a weird analog -> digital -> analog -> digital -> analog + digital pipeline :350:

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Wrageowrapper

DRINK! ARSE! FECKIN CHRISTMAS!
I go a bit Venetian Snares with this one.

https://voca.ro/1g60AaYfpdvr

B33rChiller




Wrageowrapper posted:

I go a bit Venetian Snares with this one.

https://voca.ro/1g60AaYfpdvr

Wraaaaagh!
I like the bit at around 1:21 or 2 when the insane Muppet on drums seems to reign it in a little, and this happy little video gamey ascending bubbly bleep bloop comes in from the background.
Hehehe. Fun.


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And here's the patch I was jamming on before shooting that little clip
https://voca.ro/1hyOinXKETy3

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B33rChiller




more drumdoots


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Music to fill out Valentines cards to


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Cabbages and Kings


Shall we be trotting home again?
someone told me video oscillators make cool sounds especially if you filter them with a LPG, so here's 3 channels of video going through a Boing! -- the Boing! is being pinged by an envelope that's being calculated off the same audio by befaco i4, and then to further make this dumb and complex the output audio is going back into the video synthesis chain

it sounds and looks like a seizure, I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED50WjmieYo

also lol a friend sent me some photos and a 20 minute mixtape which turned into 24 mins of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYpvme1gK-o&t=1s

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B33rChiller




Here's a little mess around patch I just recorded
trying out primes on one of the clock dividers, doing more screwing around with a PLL, and using the sync input on captain big O for the first time.


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B33rChiller




https://voca.ro/1gIiv6SCkNa7
In a new move for me, I played the same patch a second time, just tweaking things.
Usually I'll build a patch, play around a bit to see what it sounds like, and start from scratch again next time.
The novelty and experimentation is just so fun and rewarding, that I don't really care to build a listenable track out of it, I just want to endlessly play in the zone of "what happens if....?"


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B33rChiller




Generating rhythms from a handful of Turing machines, modulating each other in a loop, and extracting semi random cv from them for timbre and decay envelope modulation.

MEGA REVERB too. Playing with tweaking and modulating the reverb, so I had it cranked to be able to clearly hear the effect above all the racket.
https://voca.ro/1hO4FgCD73y5


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B33rChiller




https://vocaroo.com/1mHcXAvN2hSY
Threw a melodic voice on top of it.


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https://voca.ro/1a91aLHI4op7Bwomp bomp


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Did an experiment with 6 different clocks driving drum sounds, each 1 bpm apart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4EYrOV4av8


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