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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

endlessmonotony posted:

They cannot analyze the impact of their actions on the world ahead of time, they're not thinking at all.

I'm not making the argument that chatgpt is intelligent, i'm making the argument that we dont really know what intelligence is. We do, as you note, have some ideas what its NOT, but generally people have a lot of intuition about what they think intelligence is and i think that intuition frequently gets in the way of the discussion.

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
one good question to ask yourself might be "does something have to be sentient to be intelligent?"

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

endlessmonotony posted:

That's every concept.

ok

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I have chatted to it a few minutes and it is indeed very dumb.

yes i agree, very humanlike.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
its very much ducktyping to me. If it displays the attributes of intelligence, as most people would understand it, then its intelligent. I dont really think that you need to get into ontologies and whether pattern-matching is knowledge or whether it "knows" things or any of these other questions that I have never heard resolved to anyones satisfaction for humans either.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
if you showed chatgpt to an AI researcher from the 80s or 90s or even early 00s and asked them if it was an AI I think they'd have said yes. We know how it works so we're inclined to say that no its not intelligent but I am not sure whether knowing how it works should factor into the decision.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

we can agree to disagree.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

sure ok

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

endlessmonotony posted:

Things aren't working better now, we're hitting the same wall we did back then, the wall we knew existed well before we had the computing power to test it.

Understanding the world requires a mental model of the world, and without it, you've got a system that repeats what it hears, and nothing else.

It's not a natural language processing breakthrough because it can't extract meaning from the words used, it can't translate what you want into controlling some other system.

Sagebrush is, very unfortunately, right. In that specific post. People thinking something seems intelligent is a stupid metric.

and I think the point people - or at least me - are making is that "understanding the world" is a very vague concept and that if it acts in all cases as though it is intelligent then perhaps it "understands the world" albeit in a way that you're not prepared to accept as "understanding"

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

also lets move to the chatgpt thread please, i love the cyberpunk thread for *not* being about extremely shallow current tech garbage.

fair enuf

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

RokosCockatrice posted:

both parties coming to an agreement that each other is unsalvagably stupid does imply some level of understanding

:rolleyes:

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sagebrush posted:

you can see a metal barrel sticking out. i'd imagine they are basically just printed plastic housings over real gun parts.

since it is a guerilla group, perhaps the intention of the wild colors is subterfuge or smuggling

i would wager metal smoothbore barrel and bolt with plastic everything else.

for a fun time, look up “gun barrel electrochemical machining”

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
id be pretty shocked if those printed magazines worked at all well.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
idk for me its just a given that any gun media person is gonna be lovely, its just a question of how lovely they are and how well they keep a lid on it.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
i have guns but theyre largely symbolic and havent left the safe in years.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
oh man it never ocurred to me to try nerf darts with the cats, ima try it

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Midjack posted:

you got a permit for those small arms?

*oohhhhhhh*

 

 

 

             *oooohhhhhh*

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

huh, i guess the metaverse is good now

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
my data is protected

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
hubless wheels are fine, i want to see what they did with the front

$5 says its just plastic around a normal front suspension

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

there is so much about that bike that’s not fine. like the box section tube from Home Depot that makes up the swingarm

lol i didnt notice the 1" box section swingarm

box section swingarms are fine, just not that small

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
people need to calm down

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Chris Knight posted:

hey I did it again?! like I think awful.app is playing the embed and then also showing it full screen so I get two audios

yeah it does that sometimes idk why

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
im the v o i d b a r

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

recognizable silhouette is one of the most important aspects of character design

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

iirc forums poster thug bonnet did this way back when

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
i like it

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Beeftweeter posted:

that thing would be amazing if it were maybe 5% smaller overall

maybe you should just get 5% bigger

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

honestly would it have killed them to add two more?

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
does anyone know what happened to mark pauline?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cp7aD0q63g

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

haveblue posted:

you should be able to find a smart TV that defaults to an HDMI input on boot

i havent seen a lot of tvs but all the tvs i have just boot up to whatever input was last active

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Jabor posted:

wish i could get one that just started pushing frames from the input to the screen without having to "boot up" first, but what can you do?

just dont turn it off i guess

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
theres a lot of dumb poo poo about smart tvs but i dont really feel like a couple of seconds of boot time is one of them

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

infernal machines posted:

protip: do not buy samsung products

we have a whole dang thread about it

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Beve Stuscemi posted:

sarnsung megathread: do not buy

here's the thread to bitch about whatever shitheap samsung product you hate at the moment

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4030917

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

infernal machines posted:

well it's either that or gpt is killing chickens

its a typo, it was supposed to be killing childrens

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

these are so good

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
im gonna order my boy one of these ridiculous jackets and maybe pants as well

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