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SyNack Sassimov posted:PC Load Letter? What the gently caress does that mean the PC needs help with... y'know... like bloodletting, but.....
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Thanks Ants posted:garbage-tier AI is unleashed on support tickets When you finally do get the buttons to render on the third browser you try it helpfully vomits KB articles that have nothing to do with the error you pasted in. Then you can actually open a ticket with the option for a human to respond. Between their support and their price gouging and license fuckery I’m glad we’re getting rid of XenDesktop next year, hopefully I can get us off NetScaler as well.
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SyNack Sassimov posted:
I thought this was a phishing attempt.
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SyNack Sassimov posted:Problem is this client is a joke of a company so there's no point forwarding to anyone and being like "shouldn't this be something this person should know how to do as part of their job?" much less "why was this a word doc to begin with" much less "this isn't in our remit, this is YOUR JOB". It's a director at a client, you do what they need. Of course, since it's a director at a client you want to make sure the ticket gets assigned to someone with the requisite experience aka has the highest available billing rate. They'll need to consult their SMEs on document handling and confidentiality, which adds some more very expensive people billing 30-60 minutes each. Then once all of the proper procedures have been verified, your most expensive tech takes exactly long enough to bump the job up another billing increment. So does the person verifying their work. Then you tell your boss how much money some dumbass at the client just made you.
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Aunt Beth posted:Today I learned that the only way you can open a ticket with Citrix support now is by engaging their chatbot, which provides you buttons for canned responses in the beginning stages of the interaction. However half the time the buttons don’t render correctly and dump a bunch of json at you and even if you read through it and type the correct response it won’t continue. We are supposed to be 90% off of citrix by end of year, although we'll still have a few Netscalers around for load balancing until we can get a replacement. Won't miss this product much, but I"m not sure what we are going to is going to be a huge improvement.
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That’s the thing. The products themselves are good but Citrix is a circling the drain wreck that just keeps getting in its own way. If their support was bad but their prices were reasonable I could deal with it, but the licensing gets worse and worse every year. What are you considering as an alternate load balancer?
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Aunt Beth posted:That’s the thing. The products themselves are good but Citrix is a circling the drain wreck that just keeps getting in its own way. If their support was bad but their prices were reasonable I could deal with it, but the licensing gets worse and worse every year. We were looking at F5, but that was right before that huge breach a few weeks ago. Citrix is extra dead to me as we started rolling out their SDWAN product a few years ago, and we were something like 80 sites in, and they announced they were cutting work on the product that instant. So we were left with a bunch of hardware that now wasn't going to get updates, support was immediately gone and we still had to deploy the rest in stock because management were dinguses.
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mllaneza posted:It's a director at a client, you do what they need. Of course, since it's a director at a client you want to make sure the ticket gets assigned to someone with the requisite experience aka has the highest available billing rate. They'll need to consult their SMEs on document handling and confidentiality, which adds some more very expensive people billing 30-60 minutes each. Then once all of the proper procedures have been verified, your most expensive tech takes exactly long enough to bump the job up another billing increment. So does the person verifying their work. I can't believe you forgot about minimum billable hours, so even those people that chip in a ten minute overview are going to cost the client an hour.
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“Nothing from my end” *charges you $300*
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Fil5000 posted:I can't believe you forgot about minimum billable hours, so even those people that chip in a ten minute overview are going to cost the client an hour. You're right. I'll expect my bonus for this quarter to reflect my shoddy posting. In other news, I once saw a line item on an MSP invoice for "0.25h Read an email". On a Sunday. I did not pay that item.
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It was a really long email ok?
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My AD account expired, cool cool Didn’t want to do too much work anyway
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mllaneza posted:You're right. I'll expect my bonus for this quarter to reflect my shoddy posting. I only bother to charge for email/slack time when the customer won't use our ticketing system. Like the guy who will raise a ticket, then slack you to organise a call
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Two weeks ago: A customer, apparently under new management, calls us to troubleshoot something with their phones. Turns out not to be the Avaya system we sold them ages ago, but some completely new VOIP phones from a competitor that are nothing to do with us. The staff only called us because they're used to calling us for phone stuff. We politely tell them that if they're moving to another company's service that's fine but it's not really our problem if they are having trouble getting it to work. Last week: The customer asks us how to forward their main number in the existing system to an outside line (a temp number for the new phone service they're moving to). Fine, we forward it for them. We get a few emails from various "IT" and management people there who don't seem to have a great grasp on what they're doing, the upshot of which is that they're trying to get their phone number moved to a new provider. We tell them they just need to talk to the new provider, who should be able to arrange having the number ported. Still pretty sure no one there understands how any of this works. Yesterday: We get a very curt email from the boss of the company telling us that they are moving to a new provider and that their service with us is to be terminated EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. I have a look at their system and it is very much still live with calls coming in on our trunk and being forwarded out. I explain the situation to my boss who cackles only slightly and tells me to just turn off the trunk first thing in the morning and we'll see how long it takes them to call us. 8am Today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQk7dJ6y0Xs&t=43s Today, approx 40 minutes after customer's opening time: The exact phone call expected.
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Entropic posted:Two weeks ago: Haha, let them stew
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You can’t help some people, so you just make sure cya rules are followed and do exactly what they asked for
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tactlessbastard posted:Haha, let them stew I was out on another job this morning and we had no one else at the office at the time who knows the telephony stuff, so yeah, they had to wait a few hours till I got back to un-push the button. Thanks Ants posted:You can’t help some people, so you just make sure cya rules are followed and do exactly what they asked for We were extremely kind to them IMO in that we didn't do what they technically asked for (cancel their service entirely, potentially having them lose the phone number and not be able to get it back) and instead just turned off a switch that was easy to turn back on again.
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Entropic posted:We were extremely kind to them IMO in that we didn't do what they technically asked for (cancel their service entirely, potentially having them lose the phone number and not be able to get it back) and instead just turned off a switch that was easy to turn back on again. The best way to handle it, imo. You still provide both what they asked for AND a rapid-fire solution when they realize their oops. They get to be embarrassed; you get saved a ton of work.
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I called the tech support of the vendor of one of our X-ray machines to see if they knew how to set up domain login for the software. They said they had no idea and couldn’t even provide where to look in the manual. It ended up being four mouse clicks then selecting ldap in a drop-down. Right now I’ve been waiting an hour for someone to move an inbox into the top 120 inboxes otherwise the ekg machine will never see it
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Hotel Kpro posted:move an inbox into the top 120 inboxes otherwise the ekg machine will never see it we live in the future the future is weird
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Renegret posted:we live in the future The future is the same as the past, except now the machines are 20 years old (instead of 10) and the software to run them was written 30 years ago.
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MF_James posted:the software to run them was written 30 years ago.
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A user sent an email to the VP of IT complaining about the lack of service she's getting from my team. I went to investigate and found the ticket. She's not getting calls on her work issued phone at home, but it works fine when she isn't at home. I found that we have attempted to call her like 7 times, but her phone literally never rings, just goes directly to VM. She's verified her number with us and will email every few days demanding we call her to help her with her issue. She refuses to call us when we suggest she give us a call when she isn't at her home. I finally gave her my direct number and asked her to reach out to me. A few days later she emailed me back: I'm not going to do that. I keep my phone in a Faraday cage when I'm at home because I don't want the Israelis hacking my info.I just forwarded that email to the VP as a mystery solved
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I was not ready for that last bit, holy crap.
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A Frosty Witch posted:She refuses to call us when we suggest she give us a call when she isn't at her home.
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Dog is still smarter than Witch's user in this case.
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yeah this is my anti-israel faraday cage. i call it the Iron Dome
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Didn't know Witch worked with MTG.
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If there was anybody who needed to read Mickens' "Mossad or not-Mossad" piece, it is this lady. I unironically think you should forward it to her: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf
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witch, you consistently have the most entertaining stories. if anyone else got nostalgic and wants to go back to read some of the original tv station horrors, the saga begins here..
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A Frosty Witch posted:A user sent an email to the VP of IT complaining about the lack of service she's getting from my team. I went to investigate and found the ticket. She's not getting calls on her work issued phone at home, but it works fine when she isn't at home. I found that we have attempted to call her like 7 times, but her phone literally never rings, just goes directly to VM. She's verified her number with us and will email every few days demanding we call her to help her with her issue. She refuses to call us when we suggest she give us a call when she isn't at her home. girl what the gently caress
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Being savvy enough to know about and construct or purchase a faraday cage, but then not being able to put the pieces together on why it keeps you from getting calls is some serious management material. Promote ahead of peers.
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People that paranoid are never cool about it, they should be taking it seriously like Gene Hackman's character in Enemy of the State.
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A Frosty Witch posted:A user sent an email to the VP of IT complaining about the lack of service she's getting from my team. I went to investigate and found the ticket. She's not getting calls on her work issued phone at home, but it works fine when she isn't at home. I found that we have attempted to call her like 7 times, but her phone literally never rings, just goes directly to VM. She's verified her number with us and will email every few days demanding we call her to help her with her issue. She refuses to call us when we suggest she give us a call when she isn't at her home.
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To be fair, which country does she live in?
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A Frosty Witch posted:A user sent an email to the VP of IT complaining about the lack of service she's getting from my team. I went to investigate and found the ticket. She's not getting calls on her work issued phone at home, but it works fine when she isn't at home. I found that we have attempted to call her like 7 times, but her phone literally never rings, just goes directly to VM. She's verified her number with us and will email every few days demanding we call her to help her with her issue. She refuses to call us when we suggest she give us a call when she isn't at her home. Before everyone byod devices for work phones, one of our teams had a shared cell phone for on call. They would only charge it on Monday and the battery would run out by Tuesday morning, so they'd ignore it all week. They didn't get many calls on it, so no one noticed for awhile, but then it was down for an actual outage and the on call person was out drinking. They missed multiple calls and tried to blame everyone else. Turns out they only had a single charger and left it at the office.
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We have a shared cell phone for on call. Because none of us can be bothered to carry two phones we just leave it on one person’s desk and they forward it to whoever is on call that week. We then mask our number on our personal phones to return calls if need be. Genius and insanity are two sides of the same coin.
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Are you only on-call during business hours?
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Went on a little trip down memory lane and found this ticket that I got 11 years ago, at my previous job:quote:I HAVE IN CALENDAR WEEK HAD A TECHNICIAN ONSITE BUT
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I'm too high for this
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I'm not going to do that. I keep my phone in a Faraday cage when I'm at home because I don't want the Israelis hacking my info.

















