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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
SEND THE BASS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTxOKsyZ0Lw

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JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

quote:

ENGINEERS WANTED TO LORD OVER GUNTHER

no! my secret motivation!

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

JPrime posted:

no! my secret motivation!

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

Went on a little trip down memory lane and found this ticket that I got 11 years ago, at my previous job:

Speech-to-text disaster?

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




I honestly can't remember.

MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


No no. GUNTHER SEND THE BASS.


https://youtu.be/uUYpIyWPKGk?si=SzkB3t0JXe4jzXuT

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


quote:

I'm looking at one date right now. I was sound asleep at 930 at night on the 23rd, and I've got four pages of PowerShell action.


FOUR PAGES OF POWERSHELL ACTION

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Hot pounding PowerShell action

my cat is norris
Mar 11, 2010

#onecallcat

pounded in the butt by my four pages of powershell action

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Oh jeez, that's embarrassing.

Well the important thing is I was right about Star Trek.
A major IT issue has hit upper management: The paper clip icon has disappeared from the Copilot search bar. You can still upload files to it by drag-and-drop, but that's not how it used to work, and so it must be fixed.

Fortunately it's missing no matter what device they log into, making it an account issue for the Azure team and not my area.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Is IT is the only field where people complain about third party software and expect you to be able to do something about it, or do engineers get told to make water weigh less etc.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





lol physical engineers get told poo poo like that ALL THE TIME

My best friend was present during a meeting of the local government heads (mayor, chief of police, fire marshal, etc) and the head of the local corps of engineering during a horrific flood some years back. The engineers were giving the city options on how they could direct the flood waters—essentially which neighborhoods should flood and which should not.

The city leaders were saying “no, none of these options are acceptable” and the engineer said “you have to choose or the water will choose for you.”

According to my friend it went on for a while that no, the water won’t stay contained and no, he can’t make it have less force and no, physics doesn’t give a poo poo about the optics.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Similarly, years back there was bad flooding around the river Shannon in Ireland, and the locals were screaming about Dublin not caring about them and the government should do something. So the government planned to build a set of drains that would draw the water away and conveniently fill up the reservoirs all around the country. Of course most of the reservoirs are near Dublin, which has like a quarter of the population of the country in it, so the locals all started screaming about Dublin "taking our water!!!!!" and nothing got done.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
I will never forget the time I had a particularly important client who was positive he could use HughesNet to provide internet for his temporary VoIP call centers, and it took me hours to get him to understand why, despite how magical the QoS SBC boxes we used at the time were for NAT issues and low bandwidth, there was nothing we could do under the laws of physics to eliminate GEO satellite latency.

These days the only time I have to explain basic laws of physics is when people suggest running everything on WiFi. I do not envy those working in physical engineering fields who have to deal with it all the time.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


wolrah posted:

I will never forget the time I had a particularly important client who was positive he could use HughesNet to provide internet for his temporary VoIP call centers, and it took me hours to get him to understand why, despite how magical the QoS SBC boxes we used at the time were for NAT issues and low bandwidth, there was nothing we could do under the laws of physics to eliminate GEO satellite latency.

These days the only time I have to explain basic laws of physics is when people suggest running everything on WiFi. I do not envy those working in physical engineering fields who have to deal with it all the time.

Wifi is better than it was as far as throughput and latency are concerned, but god forbid you try to explain the limits of walls to someone.

Or giant mirrors.

Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

I had a friend ask in the group chat why they shouldn't just change their internet from 100mbit fiber to cheaper 5G internet. They thought it was a good idea right until sometime piped up saying that it's ok as long as it's not raining, because apparently that interfered with the signal. And people want internet a lot more when it's raining vs when the sun is out. :v:

Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:



Sywert of Thieves posted:

I had a friend ask in the group chat why they shouldn't just change their internet from 100mbit fiber to cheaper 5G internet. They thought it was a good idea right until sometime piped up saying that it's ok as long as it's not raining, because apparently that interfered with the signal. And people want internet a lot more when it's raining vs when the sun is out. :v:

I just had my ex ask me the same question for her and the kids internet. From fiber to 5G. The salestwat said that it was better then what they had.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


A nice reliable 100Mb fibre will do that all day long at a consistent latency, I'd take it over 5G any time.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


5G is great if the only other option is satellite.

If fiber is available, even slow, it's better than anything OTA. And people overestimate their needs, usually, which is why Surf can sell my whole neighborhood of 160 units on 2Gb fiber and be able to deliver.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

AlexDeGruven posted:

5G is great if the only other option is satellite.

If fiber is available, even slow, it's better than anything OTA. And people overestimate their needs, usually, which is why Surf can sell my whole neighborhood of 160 units on 2Gb fiber and be able to deliver.

Fiber can get easily overwhelmed too, it’s just far harder. When schools went all remote here, my optical tree went from stable gigabit to hundred megs only if moons aligned.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Oversubscription is a thing, yeah. Sounds like your ISP might have overdone it a bit :v:

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Wibla posted:

Oversubscription is a thing, yeah. Sounds like your ISP might have overdone it a bit :v:

Standard split rate for Italian networks is 1:64 so 64 people sharing the 2500 downstream channel. If every household in the block is doing a videocall with desktop sharing, it’s trivial to get there.

Cool Dad
Jun 15, 2007

Look out, here come my posts
I live in an apartment and I would kill for fiber. I have Spectrum cable and it goes out nearly once a day for a few minutes.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

SlowBloke posted:

Fiber can get easily overwhelmed too, it’s just far harder. When schools went all remote here, my optical tree went from stable gigabit to hundred megs only if moons aligned.

It's also much easier to mitigate on fiber.

We have fiber customers where we'll build out 20 gigs of bandwidth and it'll average at like 7 gigs at peak times for a segment with about a hundred customers, most at 1 gig speeds. ISPs are held together by people not using what they pay for.

Which I guess to be fair is networking as a whole.

e:also COVID hosed our docsis network so much more than fiber

Renegret fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Nov 30, 2025

Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:



Renegret posted:

e:also COVID hosed our docsis network so much more than fiber

Should have installed Norton to protect from viruses.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Renegret posted:

ISPs are held together by people not using what they pay for.

Which I guess to be fair is networking as a whole.

e:also COVID hosed our docsis network so much more than fiber

I'm almost done building out an OT network with 25G aggregation and 100G backbone, with 10G to/between most edge switches... Prod-critical traffic is less than 5mbit?

CCTV on the other hand, oof... several gigabit :haw:

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Y'all are forgetting that since you're computer touchers you actually know that you need to run a speed test off of a device that is capable of doing it. People upgrading to gig+ and then going MY SPEED TEST ON MY PHONE IS ONLY 500 YOU'RE RIPPING ME OFF is stupid common lol


also WHY'S MY TV ON MY 8K STREAMING BOX I GOT OFF THE AMAZONS FOR $40 THAT GETS ALL THE CHANNELS BUFFERING

you're lucky if they actually know the word is "buffering" and not "buffing" or just "IT'S ALWAYS SPINNING"

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Yeah, I've moved to a new place and had to deal with that myself. I genuinely don't bother plugging my laptop in unless installing a game because 50% of the one gig connection is still "basically instant" for anything not bottlenecked serverside.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Also very tangentially related but I get very angry at the appallingly misleading way wifi throughput is advertised on routers/APs every time I think about it :argh:

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Shugojin posted:

Also very tangentially related but I get very angry at the appallingly misleading way wifi throughput is advertised on routers/APs every time I think about it :argh:

Agreed. Especially the ones that advertise the total combined theoretical capacity of all the radios in the AP despite it being an 802.11ac device that was designed and built before 802.11be multi-link operation was even a concept. They start with absolute bullshit claims of individual radio performance and then add them together with another layer of bullshit.

And of course inevitably these devices will have only gigabit ethernet ports so even the theoretical numbers aren't actually usable even if they were achievable over the air.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Shugojin posted:

Y'all are forgetting that since you're computer touchers you actually know that you need to run a speed test off of a device that is capable of doing it. People upgrading to gig+ and then going MY SPEED TEST ON MY PHONE IS ONLY 500 YOU'RE RIPPING ME OFF is stupid common lol


also WHY'S MY TV ON MY 8K STREAMING BOX I GOT OFF THE AMAZONS FOR $40 THAT GETS ALL THE CHANNELS BUFFERING

you're lucky if they actually know the word is "buffering" and not "buffing" or just "IT'S ALWAYS SPINNING"

Our main ISP in Italy has historically provided over-specced routers so that the number of calls for low performance on fiber were always on the user side (which is always bounced to their paid support line). One side effect of that is that every unit will be able to do full speed ookla benchmarks to their nodes, something that your average ubnt router failed to until very recently.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Shugojin posted:

FOUR PAGES OF POWERSHELL ACTION

update on FOUR PAGES OF POWERSHELL ACTION


he did finally send in his "Documentation"


which is pictures of event viewer logs from a camera phone


:allears:

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

User: When I send this email, the attachment gets removed.

Me: Huh, that's weird. Okay, we think we've fixed it - can you please try sending another email to see if it's working?

User: It's still not working.

Me: *checks the email logs and sees that she has not actually sent another email*

:dafuq:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Maybe they thought it would just attach itself to the original (delivered) email

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
It does sometimes take a moment and a half for a message to show up in message trace depending on which system you're using.

Hotel Kpro
Feb 23, 2011

all in the reflexes


Dinosaur Gum
Drove 280 miles roundtrip yesterday to put some OS updates on two Windows 7 machines. I told the Xray tech there that we were trying to move away from the old manufacturer to something newer but she didn't believe me

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




She was right not to.

One of my last-minute accomplishments was getting the firewall people to agree in principle to isolating all the Win7 machines left in research with some switch VLAN magic I don't understand and don't have to.

We "finished" the 7->10 migration in research four years ago, they still have about 100 Win7 boxes left.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
That's a difference in understanding of what "trying to" means in different contexts. For the X-Ray technician it means pressing buttons and seeing if things work, and if not then you go get help and it works next time. For the IT nerd it means arguing with a manager and asking for budget then getting that request denied over and over again.

A Frosty Witch
Apr 21, 2005

I was just looking at it and I suddenly got this urge to get inside. No, not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.
No, actually, I will not give your request special consideration and expedite it as you are the 15th person since lunch to ask if I can get a three week process done in a single day because you didn't plan ahead. The instructions plainly state that this process can take up to three weeks and to not ask for your request to be expedited and yet eeeeeeevery single time some director gormlessly oozes into my DMs to wink wink nudge nudge jump ahead in the line cause they need their request done by tomorrow morning. Do y'all realize that the time I spend responding to you to tell you no could be spent actually completing your request? That if you didn't run directly to the VP the second I don't respond to your message, I could cut the time of these requests in half?

gently caress all the way off everyone uuuuuugh

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Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


A Frosty Witch posted:

No, actually, I will not give your request special consideration and expedite it as you are the 15th person since lunch to ask if I can get a three week process done in a single day because you didn't plan ahead. The instructions plainly state that this process can take up to three weeks and to not ask for your request to be expedited and yet eeeeeeevery single time some director gormlessly oozes into my DMs to wink wink nudge nudge jump ahead in the line cause they need their request done by tomorrow morning. Do y'all realize that the time I spend responding to you to tell you no could be spent actually completing your request? That if you didn't run directly to the VP the second I don't respond to your message, I could cut the time of these requests in half?

gently caress all the way off everyone uuuuuugh

I measure the value of VPs by how prejudicially they respond to these escalations.

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