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lmao
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Jan 10, 2023 05:50
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i think you're overestimating how high the bar for "good enough" is
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Jan 10, 2023 05:53
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rotor posted:this is the unassailable foundation upon which i have chosen to build my fortress of rhetoric it's not a bad argument imo, i think you're right for the most part. the proliferation of ai art and ai generated text both prove that the quality of output essentially doesn't matter (which, to be clear, sucks rear end) why should we expect anything different from something that just spits out globs of code? as long as it works i think most people won't care, and that's sad, but it's cheap and easy. that's all that matters today unfortunately
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Jan 10, 2023 06:14
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echinopsis posted:idk if it does. well maybe most of it does, but there are some examples of some very good stuff, stuff that at least looks like something a human could/would have made ai graphics and texts are birds of a feather i think. looking at it from an artistic standpoint is very similar to reading ai generated text: it's convincing, and it might even be kinda good, but it's... off, somehow. you can tell it may get to the point where stable diffusion is indistinguishable from human output, but creativity isn't going to be there. it can't really make anything that hasn't been done before, because it's based on previous output. that doesn't lend itself to artistry really
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Jan 10, 2023 06:23
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no, i don't think it'll make programmers obsolete either, but it's all pretty similar: words, graphics, code because the output is based upon prior work i'm not convinced it can come up with something truly original. in that sense looking at generated text is pretty instructive. you can see that, for example, in this style of writing this sequence of words is generally used with this lexical structure and these subjects usually go with these terms, etc. you can abstract the same sort of idea to art or code, it's in essence the same thing. is that "good enough" for most use cases? it probably is. but if there's something that needs to be completely invented from the ground up, i'm not so sure it'd be capable of that, ever, at least in the models we're using today. it'd be foolish to expect that to remain the same as well but the same problems will persist e: lol grammar Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jan 10, 2023 |
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Jan 10, 2023 06:45
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fart simpson posted:wasnt outsourcing programming to india etc supposed to do something similar? did it? yes and no. i think anyone that's dealt with outsourced code will tell you that the quality will vary widely, which isn't really a surprise will those jobs be obsoleted though? probably, and i'd wager that they'd be the first to be replaced
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Jan 10, 2023 06:46
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fart simpson posted:i mean honestly, how often are things completely invented from the ground up? mashing together existing things in new combinations is probably most of originality anyway true enough, and like i said, that's probably good enough for most but if the need arises and nobody's capable of figuring it out, that's not good
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Jan 10, 2023 06:51
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echinopsis posted:I often agree, but I think this is a case of seeing enough of it to get a human intuition for how it's off people generally are pretty terrible at distinguishing details visually though. it's not really surprising either if you think about it — everyone judges art by different metrics and our perceptions of something are not necessarily going to be the same. this is a good thing if you want to fool someone, but i don't know if it's necessarily good for artistic creation. a lot of art is art simply because it was never done before and yeah, the phrase "good enough" is probably going to get thrown around a lot because of that. for most it probably already is
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Jan 10, 2023 06:57
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lol i was just reading a thing saying that guy wants to pay $1m for someone to wear airpods and be fed lines for oral arguments before SCOTUS which is an interesting idea, but i think they're overestimating the impact oral arguments have. i'm also not convinced it can come up with novel arguments, which is basically half of a lawyer's job
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Jan 10, 2023 07:21
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it probably is actually illegal lol you have to be an attorney to argue in front of the supreme court and further than that you have to apply to be recognized by the bench. this is ostensibly to keep frivolous arguments from appearing and wasting their time. they're not going to countenance someone being fed lines like bruce willis
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Jan 10, 2023 17:12
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i agree with the general sentiment (that ai is imitative) but i've been saying "all art is suffering" is objectively not true and at any rate a weird justification. no idea who he is but this guy seems up his own rear end
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Jan 17, 2023 19:11
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lol that's a pretty good question
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Jan 27, 2023 05:20
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i think that's the torment nexus
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Jan 27, 2023 05:21
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bssoil posted:hosed up, did it ever tell you when Avatar was playing? avatar 2 has not yet been released
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Feb 14, 2023 04:43
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if it's based upon their bing/sydney model then i'd expect it to also be sociopathic, though that may be more difficult to discern in a business setting
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