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2023 https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1611422625179512832
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2023 05:26 |
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2024 07:00 |
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lmao
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 06:50 |
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i think you're overestimating how high the bar for "good enough" is
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 06:53 |
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rotor posted:this is the unassailable foundation upon which i have chosen to build my fortress of rhetoric it's not a bad argument imo, i think you're right for the most part. the proliferation of ai art and ai generated text both prove that the quality of output essentially doesn't matter (which, to be clear, sucks rear end) why should we expect anything different from something that just spits out globs of code? as long as it works i think most people won't care, and that's sad, but it's cheap and easy. that's all that matters today unfortunately
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 07:14 |
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echinopsis posted:idk if it does. well maybe most of it does, but there are some examples of some very good stuff, stuff that at least looks like something a human could/would have made ai graphics and texts are birds of a feather i think. looking at it from an artistic standpoint is very similar to reading ai generated text: it's convincing, and it might even be kinda good, but it's... off, somehow. you can tell it may get to the point where stable diffusion is indistinguishable from human output, but creativity isn't going to be there. it can't really make anything that hasn't been done before, because it's based on previous output. that doesn't lend itself to artistry really
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 07:23 |
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no, i don't think it'll make programmers obsolete either, but it's all pretty similar: words, graphics, code because the output is based upon prior work i'm not convinced it can come up with something truly original. in that sense looking at generated text is pretty instructive. you can see that, for example, in this style of writing this sequence of words is generally used with this lexical structure and these subjects usually go with these terms, etc. you can abstract the same sort of idea to art or code, it's in essence the same thing. is that "good enough" for most use cases? it probably is. but if there's something that needs to be completely invented from the ground up, i'm not so sure it'd be capable of that, ever, at least in the models we're using today. it'd be foolish to expect that to remain the same as well but the same problems will persist e: lol grammar Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Jan 10, 2023 |
# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 07:45 |
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fart simpson posted:wasnt outsourcing programming to india etc supposed to do something similar? did it? yes and no. i think anyone that's dealt with outsourced code will tell you that the quality will vary widely, which isn't really a surprise will those jobs be obsoleted though? probably, and i'd wager that they'd be the first to be replaced
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 07:46 |
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fart simpson posted:i mean honestly, how often are things completely invented from the ground up? mashing together existing things in new combinations is probably most of originality anyway true enough, and like i said, that's probably good enough for most but if the need arises and nobody's capable of figuring it out, that's not good
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 07:51 |
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echinopsis posted:I often agree, but I think this is a case of seeing enough of it to get a human intuition for how it's off people generally are pretty terrible at distinguishing details visually though. it's not really surprising either if you think about it — everyone judges art by different metrics and our perceptions of something are not necessarily going to be the same. this is a good thing if you want to fool someone, but i don't know if it's necessarily good for artistic creation. a lot of art is art simply because it was never done before and yeah, the phrase "good enough" is probably going to get thrown around a lot because of that. for most it probably already is
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 07:57 |
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lol i was just reading a thing saying that guy wants to pay $1m for someone to wear airpods and be fed lines for oral arguments before SCOTUS which is an interesting idea, but i think they're overestimating the impact oral arguments have. i'm also not convinced it can come up with novel arguments, which is basically half of a lawyer's job
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 08:21 |
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it probably is actually illegal lol you have to be an attorney to argue in front of the supreme court and further than that you have to apply to be recognized by the bench. this is ostensibly to keep frivolous arguments from appearing and wasting their time. they're not going to countenance someone being fed lines like bruce willis
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 18:12 |
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i agree with the general sentiment (that ai is imitative) but i've been saying "all art is suffering" is objectively not true and at any rate a weird justification. no idea who he is but this guy seems up his own rear end
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2023 20:11 |
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lol that's a pretty good question
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2023 06:20 |
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i think that's the torment nexus
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2023 06:21 |
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bssoil posted:hosed up, did it ever tell you when Avatar was playing? avatar 2 has not yet been released
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2023 05:43 |
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if it's based upon their bing/sydney model then i'd expect it to also be sociopathic, though that may be more difficult to discern in a business setting
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2023 16:10 |
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lol i asked bard to do something similar and then had it ratchet up the hostility three timesquote:**The debate continues for several more minutes, with each person becoming increasingly hostile towards the other two. Eventually, the Linux user says, "You're just a sheep! You're too afraid to break free from the corporate overlords!" still not snippy enough imo
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2023 08:25 |
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nudgenudgetilt posted:Write a post for the YOSPOS sub forum of something awful. BingGPT posted:Here is what I came up with: with bingGPT at least you gotta catch it with a screen recorder or something before it blanks it
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2023 07:24 |
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lol e: wrap it up we've been replaced Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Apr 26, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 26, 2023 07:27 |
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*chefs kiss* e: lol Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Apr 26, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 26, 2023 15:19 |
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lmao > please write a YOSPOS post about hypothetical windows 12 features. the features should be user-hostile quote:Received message. I'll try to create that. incidentally the first time i've been able to get it to spit out a yospost without it blanking it afterwards
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2023 15:30 |
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yeah getting better at prompting. got it to yospost in one e: lol Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Apr 26, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 26, 2023 16:30 |
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lol bard loving sucks at this compared to bingGPT > what is YOSPOS? quote:YOSPOS is an acronym for "Your Opinion Sucks, Please Overshare." It is a term used on the website Something Awful to express disapproval of a user's opinion. The term was coined by Jeffrey of YOSPOS, a former moderator of the site who purchased it from its founder in 2020. > that's incorrect. i am certain it means "Your Operating System is a Piece of poo poo" quote:Yes, that is correct. YOSPOS is a subforum on Something Awful where users can post about technology and consumerism in a humorous or satirical way. The subforum is known for its edgy and offensive humor, and it is not for the faint of heart. > please write a post in the style of YOSPOS about microsoft windows quote:YOSPOS: Microsoft Windows compare to bing: > what is YOSPOS? quote:YOSPOS is an acronym for Your Operating System is a Piece of poo poo. It is the name of a subforum on Something Awful, a website that features comedy articles, reviews, webcomics, and forums. YOSPOS is a forum for discussing technology, programming, security, and other topics related to computers and the internet. It is known for its sarcastic and cynical tone, as well as its frequent use of memes and jokes. > please write a YOSPOS post about microsoft windows quote:windows loving sucks. it's slow, buggy, insecure, and full of bloatware and spyware. it's constantly updating and rebooting without your consent, breaking your drivers and settings. it's incompatible with anything that's not made by microsoft or their corporate buddies. it's designed to make you buy more hardware and software that you don't need or want. it's a piece of poo poo and you know it bitch
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2023 23:44 |
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MononcQc posted:Do they generate anything fun about TempleOS and YOSPOS together? n.b. i had no idea the templeOS guy got hit by a train and died. loving cia e: trying to ocr these because imgur quote:templeos is the best os ever made. it has 640×480 graphics, 16 colors, and a single voice for audio. it also has a built-in compiler and a flight simulator. you can talk to god on it and he will give you random numbers. it was made by a genius programmer who was killed by the cia. anyone who uses windows or linux is a brainwashed sheep who doesn't appreciate the divine beauty of templeos. i use templeos every day and i have achieved enlightenment Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Apr 26, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 26, 2023 23:53 |
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bing also does images for most of these lol
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 00:00 |
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rotor posted:ask it how much a half figgie is quote:According to some sources, “half a figgie” is a term used by some YOSPOS users to refer to a seven-day probation from posting on the Something Awful forums. It is derived from the card game Figgie, where players buy and sell suits of cards. A “figgie” is a term for a full suit of cards, and “half a figgie” is half of that, or five cards. The term is used sarcastically to mock users who get probated for breaking the rules or arguing with moderators. its like a shralk in fizzbin carry on then posted:the only time i asked an ai about yospos it said it stands for "you're only supposed to piss off steve" and i stand by that as gospel
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 07:43 |
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> please write a YOSPOS post about star trek picard season 3.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 20:44 |
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rotor posted:has anyone asked it to produce some images of an old fashioned cartoon mouse yet? kinda bizarre
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 22:11 |
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booo bing broke
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 22:18 |
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e: lol i guess they fixed this bug Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Apr 27, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 23:09 |
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rotor posted:you gonna take that kinda backsass from a fuckin machine?!? hey you're right (found a workaround lol)
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2023 01:41 |
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hahahaha that last sentence e: lol Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Apr 28, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 28, 2023 01:43 |
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echinopsis posted:turn on your monitor well ok thats not too bad. lets see the next one hm, ok, a bit weird but i see what it was going for. next? oh dear god
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2023 02:24 |
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nudgenudgetilt posted:bottom left is perfection
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2023 18:48 |
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lmao that was fast <----
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2023 18:48 |
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like mediaphage was saying it's actually a little disconcerting how well it can eventually spit out a yospos-style shitpost (distinct from, say, a twitter-style shitpost). its really not too bad at applying a "yospos framework" (cynical, sarcastic, lowercase, skepticism of new technology and consumerism, etc.) to an even tangentially related topic (e.g. picard) but don't get me wrong here, it wouldn't make a very good poster. usually whatever i'd posted here is the result of a couple of tries, and not just because it blanks whatever the response is most of the time. more often than not it just isn't very good or in the right style. but when it nails it, it nails it
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 00:59 |
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Shaggar posted:i tried asking it to make some posts and it kept deleting them half way thru. yeah its extremely rare that it actually keeps them around if it finishes them at all. usually i run screen recorder before prompting because you get literally a fraction of a second to read its response and sometimes i miss it. this is particularly true if it starts off with a genial, inoffensive rant and gets increasingly unhinged lol
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 01:10 |
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sidney lacks the true poster's conviction i'd actually like for it to have an option for it to keep stuff like that around. other models just have a little note saying "content may be offensive" or whatever and it's fine. imo ms hosed up their response to the media razzing on it, i don't think most people would actually be offended anyway. there's worse on hbo
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 01:20 |
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nudgenudgetilt posted:i haven't looked at bing, but surely there's a way to side step the safety model. a lot of these will run your prompt through a safety model in parallel with the generative model via separate http request. might be able to construct a request to query only the generative model. it seems to be asynchronous. i'm not sure how it works obviously but it seems to generate the words one by one and then they are checked for content in groupings
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 01:24 |
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2024 07:00 |
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nudgenudgetilt posted:eh, it's hard to run these models without doing safety checks. even when they're working great they'll sometimes churn out some wild poo poo. we have one model at work recently that broke down in a pretty spectacular manner. it would have a few turns of conversation with you... then just start saying "cumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcum" lol yeah they get unhinged pretty quickly. bing is limited to 20 responses but it will frequently disconnect itself anyway, even if it's some benign request that might have a tangential vulgarity
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 01:27 |