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PostNouveau posted:You better believe it First FSU at #4? Seems ambitious. Second, Penix is still playing? I'd thought he'd run out of time.
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Sash! posted:First FSU at #4? Seems ambitious. COVID year.
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Final moon poll of the year. For the first time I think I'm satisfied with how this came out. I also included my strength of schedule rankings for every team.pre:Delta Team Record Score SOS Conferences by Avg Score +1 1. Georgia 15-0 6.6352 2 1. SEC -1 2. Michigan 13-1 4.9956 66 2. Big 10 +3 3. Tennessee 11-2 4.5254 15 3. ACC -1 4. TCU 13-2 4.4006 8 4. Big 12 - 5. Ohio State 11-2 4.1349 17 5. Pac 12 -2 6. USC 11-3 4.0682 48 6. Sun Belt +3 7. Penn State 11-2 4.0009 50 7. American +4 8. Tulane 12-2 3.7357 63 8. Conf USA +6 9. Alabama 11-2 3.6843 45 9. MAC +3 10. Oregon 10-3 3.5094 12 10. Mount West +3 11. Washington 11-2 3.4702 69 -1 12. Troy 12-2 3.4634 77 -4 13. Kansas State 10-4 3.2450 16 -6 14. Clemson 11-3 3.2402 33 -8 15. Utah 10-4 3.0914 11 - 16. Florida State 10-3 3.0560 40 +8 17. LSU 10-4 2.8267 13 -1 18. Oregon State 10-3 2.6844 36 +4 19. Mississippi State 9-4 2.3337 18 +7 20. Minnesota 9-4 2.2450 72 -3 21. Illinois 8-5 2.1903 53 +14 22. Pittsburgh 9-4 2.1774 51 +8 23. Duke 9-4 2.1703 94 +6 24. Marshall 9-4 2.1071 75 -3 25. Fresno State 10-4 1.9930 78 +1 122. Colorado State 3-9 -3.4024 88 +1 123. Temple 3-9 -3.4571 116 -2 124. Hawaii 3-10 -3.4987 102 - 125. Akron 2-10 -3.6691 82 - 126. Colorado 1-11 -3.6706 1 - 127. South Florida 1-11 -3.8781 59 - 128. Charlotte 3-9 -4.0097 119 - 129. Nevada 2-10 -4.1769 109 - 130. Massachusetts 1-11 -4.2821 97 - 131. Northwestern 1-11 -4.5532 10 pre:Delta Team Rec Score SOS +2 26. Notre Dame 9-4 1.9878 37 -7 27. NC State 8-5 1.9244 42 -9 28. UCLA 9-4 1.8567 47 -3 29. Louisville 8-5 1.8563 43 +2 30. UTSA 11-3 1.7829 103 +2 31. Cincinnati 9-4 1.7441 73 +9 32. Air Force 10-3 1.6981 131 -9 33. Texas 8-5 1.6027 34 - 34. James Madison 8-3 1.6013 96 +12 35. Iowa 8-5 1.4380 65 -15 36. South Alabama 10-3 1.3963 120 +9 37. Ohio U 10-4 1.3855 114 -9 38. UCF 9-5 1.3225 62 +3 39. Boise State 10-4 1.3190 110 +9 40. Maryland 8-5 1.3160 46 +9 41. East Carolina 8-5 1.2929 86 -4 42. North Carolina 9-5 1.2435 35 +5 43. Wake Forest 8-5 1.2264 31 -9 44. Ole Miss 8-5 1.2239 41 +7 45. Western Kentucky 9-5 1.2164 115 -6 46. South Carolina 8-5 1.1149 22 -2 47. BYU 8-5 1.1046 70 +3 48. Texas Tech 8-5 1.0671 29 -12 49. Syracuse 7-6 1.0622 21 -11 50. Purdue 8-6 0.9528 20 Delta Team Rec Score +5 51. Wisconsin 7-6 0.9041 57 -9 52. Kentucky 7-6 0.7787 19 -9 53. Coastal Carolina 9-4 0.7413 83 +7 54. Arkansas 7-6 0.7412 38 -2 55. Florida 6-7 0.6782 5 -2 56. Washington State 7-6 0.6403 44 +12 57. Middle Tennessee 8-5 0.3488 126 +9 58. Eastern Michigan 9-4 0.3144 128 +3 59. Appalachian State 6-6 0.3033 84 +3 60. Georgia Tech 5-7 0.2334 6 -6 61. Oklahoma 6-7 0.1920 60 -5 62. Oklahoma State 7-6 0.1621 67 +14 63. Memphis 7-6 0.0951 101 -4 64. Kansas 6-7 0.0692 28 -6 65. Baylor 6-7 0.0555 52 -8 66. San Jose State 7-5 0.0473 130 +1 67. SMU 7-6 -0.0373 56 +12 68. Houston 8-5 -0.0504 117 +7 69. Toledo 9-5 -0.1485 122 -6 70. Missouri 6-7 -0.1803 23 +1 71. Army 6-6 -0.2352 98 +2 72. Texas A&M 5-7 -0.2676 61 +2 73. UAB 7-6 -0.3102 108 -1 74. Southern Miss 7-6 -0.3398 90 -5 75. Liberty 8-5 -0.4267 123 Delta Team Rec Score +2 76. Michigan State 5-7 -0.4614 7 -11 77. Louisiana 6-7 -0.5091 76 +1 78. Arizona 5-7 -0.5286 24 -14 79. San Diego State 7-6 -0.5294 80 +2 80. Vanderbilt 5-7 -0.5974 14 -10 81. Wyoming 7-6 -0.6132 87 +2 82. California 4-8 -0.7400 25 +2 83. Miami (OH) 6-7 -0.7705 106 +7 84. Buffalo 7-6 -0.7827 118 +2 85. Kent State 5-7 -0.7864 49 - 86. Miami (FL) 5-7 -0.8031 55 +1 87. West Virginia 5-7 -0.8452 39 +1 88. Auburn 5-7 -0.8743 4 -8 89. Connecticut 6-7 -1.0210 74 +9 90. New Mexico State 7-6 -1.1144 129 -1 91. Florida Atlantic 5-7 -1.1156 113 -9 92. Georgia Southern 6-7 -1.1243 92 -1 93. Iowa State 4-8 -1.1948 32 - 94. North Texas 7-7 -1.2800 111 +1 95. Western Michigan 5-7 -1.2904 105 -3 96. Indiana 4-8 -1.2918 9 - 97. Nebraska 4-8 -1.4015 58 - 98. UNLV 5-7 -1.4480 125 +1 99. Rutgers 4-8 -1.5822 27 -5 100. Bowling Green 6-7 -1.5877 79 Delta Team Rec Score - 101. Tulsa 5-7 -1.5902 112 +1 102. Virginia 3-7 -1.7220 54 +2 103. Ball State 5-7 -1.7858 100 -2 104. Georgia State 4-8 -1.8022 107 +2 105. Navy 4-8 -1.8931 71 - 106. Arizona State 3-9 -1.8950 30 -3 107. Texas State 4-8 -1.9176 104 +1 108. Virginia Tech 3-8 -1.9249 68 +1 109. UTEP 5-7 -2.0093 127 +2 110. Stanford 3-9 -2.1392 3 - 111. Louisiana-Monroe 4-8 -2.1568 64 +1 112. Boston College 3-9 -2.1635 26 -5 113. Utah State 6-7 -2.3002 93 - 114. Arkansas State 3-9 -2.3214 81 - 115. Rice 5-8 -2.3334 95 - 116. Old Dominion 3-9 -2.6141 91 - 117. Louisiana Tech 3-9 -2.7650 89 - 118. Northern Illinois 3-9 -2.7696 124 - 119. Central Michigan 4-8 -2.9239 99 - 120. Florida Intl 4-8 -2.9756 121 - 121. New Mexico 2-10 -3.2062 85
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https://twitter.com/kylerowland/status/1612826521839828994?s=61&t=78LOfHKduGgs1PFD7TgWEQ Sounds right.
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Jan 10, 2023 17:15
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Sash! posted:First FSU at #4? Seems ambitious. Ya as an FSU alum I'd rather be underrated tbh https://twitter.com/PregameEmpire/status/1612636714585006080?s=20
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Jan 10, 2023 17:16
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Yeah Penix chose to come back next year. Guess he must not have liked what he heard about his draft chances. #8 to finish the year is way, way above what I anticipated going into the season, and I hope we can find a way to improve on that next year.
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Jan 10, 2023 17:18
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Henchman of Santa posted:COVID year. I thought this year was that year!
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Jan 10, 2023 17:25
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Sash! posted:I thought this year was that year! I think he had a medical redshirt at some point in Indiana. You’re a Penn State fan, you should know eligibility is a myth!
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dirty shrimp money posted:Final moon poll of the year. For the first time I think I'm satisfied with how this came out. I also included my strength of schedule rankings for every team. The only thing I'd complain about here is USC being so high after losing to Tulane and twice to Utah, a team that Penn State shithoused.
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Jan 10, 2023 17:43
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kayakyakr posted:TTU in the "also receiving votes" levels. Nice. I'll take it. In 'also receiving votes' news remember a couple of months ago when North Carolina was flirting with a top 10 ranking and then they ran into the buzzsaw that is Georgia Tech and it completely ruined their season? North Carolina State too I guess, who actually did get a top 10 ranking at one point this season before losing to just about everyone except North Carolina for the rest of the year. Wake Forest top 10 at one point too relatively late in the season and didn't even make the receiving votes part of things. The ACC was kinda a bunch of crabs in a bucket for the middle of the conference this year it seems.
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dirty shrimp money posted:Final moon poll of the year. For the first time I think I'm satisfied with how this came out. I also included my strength of schedule rankings for every team. lol Colorado
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Jan 10, 2023 17:57
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Komet posted:The only thing I'd complain about here is USC being so high after losing to Tulane and twice to Utah, a team that Penn State shithoused. Nobody really gives a poo poo about bowl game performance outside of the playoffs.
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Manoueverable posted:Yeah Penix chose to come back next year. Guess he must not have liked what he heard about his draft chances. Penix loves going deep in Seattle, I say let him.
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Jan 10, 2023 18:16
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Nobody really gives a poo poo about bowl game performance outside of the playoffs. Winning the Rose Bowl still means something
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Komet posted:Winning the Rose Bowl still means something It doesn’t
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Nobody really gives a poo poo about bowl game performance outside of the playoffs. 90% of FBS teams will never make the playoffs and those fans care about their lovely bowl games.
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Jan 10, 2023 18:29
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I’d probably go 1) Georgia 2) Michigan 3) Ohio State 4) Tennessee 5) TCU 6) Alabama 7) Penn State But you could talk me into switching 5 and 6
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Jan 10, 2023 18:41
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R.D. Mangles posted:90% of FBS teams will never make the playoffs and those fans care about their lovely bowl games. i mean they do, it's fun, but preparation and practice going in is not the same as the regular season (source lots of CU players when they got shithoused by Joey Harrington in the Fiesta Bowl)
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Jan 10, 2023 18:45
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R.D. Mangles posted:90% of FBS teams will never make the playoffs and those fans care about their lovely bowl games. Fans do, whether the players do is open to question. NIL and the transfer portal and heightened focus on the draft have made CFB more like a business for players than ever before and guys make business decisions once their season is over.
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Jan 10, 2023 18:52
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Nobody really gives a poo poo about bowl game performance outside of the playoffs. And AP voters, apparently.
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Komet posted:The only thing I'd complain about here is USC being so high after losing to Tulane and twice to Utah, a team that Penn State shithoused. There were more than a few ballots that had USC above Utah, some had them like 5 or 6 spots ahead even, which I don't quite understand. https://collegepolltracker.com/football/grid
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skylined! posted:And AP voters, apparently. AP voters barely paid attention to regular season games when their votes actually mattered, that’s not at all surprising.
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I mean do people really care about the bowls? Like when the Bowls are over so people brag about their teams winning the outback bowl
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I don't know about bragging but I sure care way more about playing a meaningless exhibition game in December against a P5 opponent than I do some FCS team in September which purportedly has "meaning"
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Jan 10, 2023 19:16
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NGL, getting ranked after FSU stings a bit.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean do people really care about the bowls? Like when the Bowls are over so people brag about their teams winning the outback bowl It's the Reliaquest Bowl, and yes I will
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I think a decent bowl win used to be a nice cherry on top for a decent season for a lot of P5 programs, but nowadays basically every team is near-certain to be down 5 starters and maybe half the coaching staff on gameday, so I think win or lose most fanbases are going to recognize the game as low-quality and low-value, unless a bowl is a once-per-decade occurrence for your program.
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I was elated when northwestern won the gator bowl for their first bowl in in 50 years and am pumped when they win every lovely bowl game they make assuming they will ever win another game.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean do people really care about the bowls? Like when the Bowls are over so people brag about their teams winning the outback bowl Uh, my team proved themselves the Cheeziest, as ordained by Prince Chedward, so what the hell do you think bucko?
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I know ESPN and the leagues are pushing the playoff as the be-all end-all but FBS is not a 32 team pro league, there's more than 120 teams and nearly all of then will never have anything to do with the playoffs, there needs to be some other thing they can do to be successful at the end if the year or they might as well just have a 20 team superleague.
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R.D. Mangles posted:I was elated when northwestern won the gator bowl for their first bowl in in 50 years and am pumped when they win every lovely bowl game they make assuming they will ever win another game. How dare you remind me that this happened & the circumstances surrounding it
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yeah i mean i'm taking every bowl win I can get as a minnesota fan, are you kidding
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PostNouveau posted:Tulane #9 I need to savor this. It probably won't happen again in my lifetime.
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I certainly like watching my team play in a bowl game, and then usually watch like the Rose Bowl or another interesting matchup or two in the bigger games. The Cotton Bowl this year was a lot of fun even if it was inconsequential.
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Traitorous Leopard posted:How dare you remind me that this happened & the circumstances surrounding it touchdown trevor
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The worst part of yesterdays game is that Notre Dame is now off the hook for worst blowout loss in a title game
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The worst part of yesterdays game is that Notre Dame is now off the hook for worst blowout loss in a title game TCU put up points
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Judgy Fucker posted:I don't know about bragging but I sure care way more about playing a meaningless exhibition game in December against a P5 opponent than I do some FCS team in September which purportedly has "meaning" They’re both about equally useful for telling how good a team was. R.D. Mangles posted:I know ESPN and the leagues are pushing the playoff as the be-all end-all but FBS is not a 32 team pro league, there's more than 120 teams and nearly all of then will never have anything to do with the playoffs, there needs to be some other thing they can do to be successful at the end if the year or they might as well just have a 20 team superleague. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with fans getting excited to see their team play one last game and maybe go out on a high note. The games are ultimately for the fans and players. I just don’t think the results are at all meaningful for determining which team (or, god forbid, conference) was better during the season and using bowl games to argue over whether you should be ranked 6th or 7th in a meaningless postseason poll made by people who don’t even watch football seems very silly to me. It’s like bragging about winning an exhibition match.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The worst part of yesterdays game is that Notre Dame is now off the hook for worst blowout loss in a title game There’s always next year
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YOLOsubmarine posted:They’re both about equally useful for telling how good a team was. Fair. With the insane amount of turnover in college football, preseason polls have reached a seemingly impossible new level of pointless essay, except for laughing when they rank Texas and Notre Dame too high.
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