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Well CO2 levels would have dropped in the last decade or so so who knows what that means for winter.
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I like to imagine that all the infected outside Jackson were the relatives to other people that Joel and Ellie had killed during their journey, and there’s actually a slew of revenge quests going on, but only Abby makes it to the endgame.
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zelah posted:Well CO2 levels would have dropped in the last decade or so so who knows what that means for winter. Have they? I get less people using cars and electricity and factories and all that would reduce it, but with all the apocalypse going on I figure a lot of industrial stuff and volatile stuff also went up burning with nobody to put it out. Plus so many of the global warming effects are runaway where even if we stopped all carbon output immediately, the disaster will keep accelerating badly for the foreseeable future.
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Khanstant posted:Have they? I get less people using cars and electricity and factories and all that would reduce it, but with all the apocalypse going on I figure a lot of industrial stuff and volatile stuff also went up burning with nobody to put it out. Plus so many of the global warming effects are runaway where even if we stopped all carbon output immediately, the disaster will keep accelerating badly for the foreseeable future. Keep in mind the outbreak happens in 2003, so two decades where 99.9% less of the coal & oil that would otherwise have been burned stayed in the ground. Plus deforestation would have plummeted, along with many previously inhabited areas likely growing forests. Agreed there would probably be some forest fires going unchecked but that wouldn’t come close to matching human carbon output.
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I was more thinking of like all the burning nuclear, coal, gas plants and fertilizer and chemical stockpiles and such, pipelines and such leaking out unstopped, seems like having a big bonfire of a lot of that stuff would be one hell of an extra last kick. If we reduce human output to 0 today it would still be centuries to reach pre-industrial levels and for ice caps to reform and such. They aren't quite 0 but certainly much lower than before day to day. Scientists haven't factored in mushroom people so maybe they accelerate the recovery. I suppose those calculations also don't take into account billions less people even if they could somehow output 0, and not about sudden reforestation.
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Apr 15, 2025 22:25
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It would actually be really funny if Joel lives through the entire season, and every week the thread is just full of people who are increasingly confident that this episode is gonna be the week he dies, and increasingly furious when he doesn't.
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Apr 15, 2025 23:14
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Plot Twist: Joel survives in this version thanks to Show Abby’s weaker upper body strength
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Apr 15, 2025 23:16
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Could you imagine if they do the whole golf scene and then pull a “somehow he survived”and we get coma Joel I would laugh so much if that somehow happened It won’t but it would be funny if it did
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Apr 15, 2025 23:20
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Maybe they'll do what the game-trailers implied and kill off Dina instead
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Kazzah posted:Maybe they'll do what the game-trailers implied and kill off Dina instead They'll do what I did in the game and have Ellie accidentally throw a brick through some tripwire when she's standing next to the explosive.
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Apr 15, 2025 23:36
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Henchman of Santa posted:They'll do what I did in the game and have Ellie accidentally throw a brick through some tripwire when she's standing next to the explosive. Everything will be zany what-ifs presented blooper reel style.
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Kazzah posted:Maybe they'll do what the game-trailers implied and kill off Dina instead I've wondered about that once or twice, but don't see any universe in which a show like this takes a risk like that. As for Episode 1: I'll withhold overall judgment on this season until I've seen more than one episode, but so far my thoughts can be summarized by cross-posting from the Startfield (lol) thread. quote:Not for nothing, but the writing in this is one of the main things pulling me away from this loving industry. I hate it so much. Apologies for quoting Harlan Ellison, but if the word HATE was engraved on every atom of the universe, it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate that I feel for this kind of writing. Everything's a super heckin' funny joke, random NPC/companion barks that reveal nothing interesting about either themselves or the world they exist in, voice actors clearly given no direction whatsoever, companion barks at the worst possible times, but fails to comment on something actually important (killing a story NPC near the end of the video) etc. etc. etc. I've fought against this kind of thing for as long as I could, but to say the least it has been a long and fruitless effort. Constant levity is exhausting and stupid. It's been over 10 years since the marvel quipfest began; enough is enough! It's cool and good for characters to hold things back, sometimes! It's ok for a situation to be sad and complicated for more than 2 minutes!
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my friend still doesn't know what happens and i was like "oh yeah just make sure you make it through the week with your head down" and she's like "oh the thing everyone's mad about happens in a week?" and im like  so yeah if they wind up not going with it at all im going to be very confused lol
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I dunno I think I just didn't actually like season 1 because I've come into this fairly hostile, sort of loaded up with 'oh great more of this' mentality. A lot of lines annoyed me that wouldn't have like "i'm infected wooo" after some commonplace emotional awareness in 2025 "are you in loving therapy *laughs*" i've seen this so many times the whole catherine o'hara scene of her being an anti-counsellor and i was pre-disposed to like this because it's catherine o'hara. the moments of levity landing like dad jokes written by actual dads. like not cute but trying to be cute and it's asking me to meet them more than halfway. i turned it off 30 minutes in. I dunno. I'm just not into this show really. I was never that into last of us 1, really only a last of us 2 fan. s1 was a worse version of the game on pretty much every level, but i actually LIKE tlou2, so i don't want to see a version of it which falls flat. the only thing in this i think is actually good is pedro and even he is like, an acceptable substitute and not redefining the role.
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Weird take sorry for your unenjoyment maybe season 3 will be for you.
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i saw an advance screener of the next episode and the change they made to compensate for swole deficit is that now abby leaps out into a doorway with a tiny derringer, shouts "gently caress you pussy malanga!", shoots joel in the tummy, then runs and hides in a cupboard
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BigglesSWE posted:I like to imagine that all the infected outside Jackson were the relatives to other people that Joel and Ellie had killed during their journey, and there’s actually a slew of revenge quests going on, but only Abby makes it to the endgame. In the game Ellie says that Joel killed so many people that it is next to impossible to figure out who it was that wanted revenge.
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Alhazred posted:In the game Ellie says that Joel killed so many people that it is next to impossible to figure out who it was that wanted revenge. Joel may have gone too far that time he went out of his way to herd five enemies together so he could hit them with a Molotov as he thought it might get him an achievement trophy.
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The line of people with enough grudge against Joel that they wanna kill him:
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I liked this episode, though i kinda wonder if Bella Ramsey is going to actually be able to pull off the Ellie stuff in this story because it requires a lot more emoting than Part 1 did.
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Panzeh posted:I liked this episode, though i kinda wonder if Bella Ramsey is going to actually be able to pull off the Ellie stuff in this story because it requires a lot more emoting than Part 1 did. Bella was in Game of Thrones, I think they can emote just fine if needed
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Larryb posted:Bella was in Game of Thrones, I think they can emote just fine if needed I might be misremembering but I don't think their character in GoT had too much emotional weight? If you really want to a showcase of Bella's acting ability watch Time season 2. (Watch both seasons of Time anyway because they're great).
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They’re good in the animated series Hilda as well (which was actually my first experience with them to be honest which made watching Last of Us later even funnier) Either way, I’m pretty confident Bella will be able to hack it (perhaps not as well as Ashley did but still passable at the very least)
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Man I was on Reddit looking at stuff and every Last of Us topic I saw was just wretched. People saying the cruelest and grossest things about Bella. I don't even really like this show or this franchise that much but I feel like I'm going to end up digging in in favor of it just as a counter to those assholes, similar to The Last Jedi
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I dunno man, it seems like you should stop reading reddit and just watch things you actually enjoy
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Wish they’d set the season a year earlier and had it be nothing but Joel supervising construction projects & pausing to explain to the audience the mechanics of stuff like circuits breakers, roof flashing, & installing nonslip bars in bathrooms. Have Offerman come back as his own brother to demonstrate woodworking, why not. Just a cozy season before moving ahead with offing him. Was rewatching S1E1, still good & I forgot how the day before the outbreak Joel & co kept narrowly avoiding eating pancakes, cookies, & cake.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:I dunno man, it seems like you should stop reading reddit and just watch things you actually enjoy I mean I do like the show; what I meant to communicate was I don't like the show that much that I'll argue in defense of it. But feel like I'm going to end up arguing out of proportion to how invested I'd otherwise be because grognards are going to be so virulently over the top about how much they hate certain actors.
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Reddit is a wretched place, there's no sense trying to be a stick in a flood of poo poo on website designed to facilitate poo poo flooding. Even for reddit, TLOU in particular has an extremely toxic history. Just block those subs if you can't just get away from reddit.
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I mean, SA has pockets of being better than Reddit, but there's a poo poo ton of toxic here too. this thread is borderline, with a ton of people being sexist as poo poo about BR not looking the part or not being good at acting (which is laughable but you do you goons) while Daddy Padro who doesn't really look the part either is just universally loved because both of them are very good at their roles.
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Here you can call them out, identify them, notice a pattern, and if they're consistently shits they'll get mocked by others or probe/ban, and this forum doesn't reactively let hateful people who were called out create their own subforum or thread specifically for fostering hate of that thing, with the most virulently angry and vile become the new mods enforcing their bigotry, and post visibility isn't supported by a miserable time-based popularity contest of active jerks amplifying nastiness while burying anyone daring to call put shittiness.
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Khanstant posted:Here you can call them out, identify them, notice a pattern, and if they're consistently shits they'll get mocked by others or probe/ban, and this forum doesn't reactively let hateful people who were called out create their own subforum or thread specifically for fostering hate of that thing, with the most virulently angry and vile become the new mods enforcing their bigotry, and post visibility isn't supported by a miserable time-based popularity contest of active jerks amplifying nastiness while burying anyone daring to call put shittiness. why quote a post when you can just vaguely scold "goons" like a boomer vagueposting about her DIL on Facebook?
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I don't hate Ramsey in the role but I definitely have to mentally separate their performance from Johnson's. Ramsey is coming across as a lot more petulant, which isn't itself a problem, it's a fine enough interpretation of Ellie, but Johnson played those sardonic/bitter moments less... idk, harshly? I get the impression that Ramsey's Ellie is a legitimately angry person from the jump. It's not really an indignant or righteous kind of anger either, the show pretty clearly thinks she's kind of a brat, which is backed up by the mean, violent streak the show has been running with for her since season 1. Don't know what to think about it yet.
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I feel like based on the season trailer, there is potentially going to be more cutting back to things going on in Jackson than we got during the actual game. I could certainly be wrong but there are definitely at least a few things in that trailer that appear to be in Jackson that weren't in the game. We got a bit of a teaser in this last episode where you saw those infection tendrils or whatever you call them coming in through the pipes.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like based on the season trailer, there is potentially going to be more cutting back to things going on in Jackson than we got during the actual game. I could certainly be wrong but there are definitely at least a few things in that trailer that appear to be in Jackson that weren't in the game. We got a bit of a teaser in this last episode where you saw those infection tendrils or whatever you call them coming in through the pipes. Yeah, I feel like there's going to be an infected attack on Jackson that is going to result in Ellie, Dina, Joel and maybe Tommy meeting up with Abby and co - and that's when the golf tournament happens - instead of the game having Joel and Tommy out looking for Ellie and Dina when they stumble upon Abby during an attack and save her.
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Panzeh posted:I liked this episode, though i kinda wonder if Bella Ramsey is going to actually be able to pull off the Ellie stuff in this story because it requires a lot more emoting than Part 1 did. watch the scene where Ellie stabs the cannibal nonce again, they can sell it when the scene needs them to
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ulvir posted:watch the scene where Ellie stabs the cannibal nonce again, they can sell it when the scene needs them to that's a fair point, it'd been a while since i saw that part
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hawowanlawow posted:live 2 scold Considering who is doing the scolding that's pretty funny too
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