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I guess Ella forgot about another time her best friend and romantic interest wandered into an uncleared building and ended up with unpleasant consequences. On the other hand she's been through a lot worse with Joey, so she just figures everything will work out and she can be the protective figure to somebody else, being that the FEDRA administration was to some extent that for her, until Joey Joe Joe Martell came along.
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live with fruit posted:I watched the Inside the Episode and the video game creator said that the guy who called Ellie a slur was just trying to protect the community in his own way, and I think I'm not going to watch any more of those. He also said that who's the hero and who's the villain is a matter of perspective, right after elucidating that Kaitlyn Dever's character is driven solely by revenge and has spent five years hunting down the man who saved a girl from having her brain fed into a blender. Sometimes it's best not to know how the sausage is made.
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The biggest problem is that nothing comes across as organic. Feels as though the writers intent is taking priority over rationale. The fight scene isn't logical. Wandering into the abandoned building gung ho contradicts the approach this structured society takes in this world. They really want to nail home the point that Ellie is a badass I guess.
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Apr 16, 2025 11:48
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Mastocator posted:The biggest problem is that nothing comes across as organic. Feels as though the writers intent is taking priority over rationale. The fight scene isn't logical. Wandering into the abandoned building gung ho contradicts the approach this structured society takes in this world. They really want to nail home the point that Ellie is a badass I guess. This is what gets me about her portrayal (and Bella Ramsey's acting) in S2. She went from a headstrong but obviously vulnerable character in S1 to an invincible Mary Sue that can out-wrestle someone a foot taller and 120 lbs heavier, stealth kill infected like a ninja, and gets to disobey orders without any consequences.
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IT BURNS posted:This is what gets me about her portrayal (and Bella Ramsey's acting) in S2. She went from a headstrong but obviously vulnerable character in S1 to an invincible Mary Sue that can out-wrestle someone a foot taller and 120 lbs heavier, stealth kill infected like a ninja, and gets to disobey orders without any consequences. They established that the guy she was sparring with would have knocked her out immediately if it was a real fight. She was bitten by the stalker and would have died if she wasnt immune. She would have been on guard duty if not for Joel. To me, it's portraying her as overconfident and arrogant.
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Apr 16, 2025 14:19
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If anything she has it easier than most, so she rebels. She doesn't want to be coddled.
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She also killed the cannibal king, who I got the impression was some sort of bad man before the outbreak, by herself when she was 14 so it's not like it's come out of nowhere. (She also put that bully in the infirmary at the military school where they were hoping she'd become an officer.) live with fruit fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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Apr 16, 2025 21:01
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huh posted:This take sucks. It's a gimmick, he's doing the same in other threads including White Lotus.
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Apr 16, 2025 23:32
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live with fruit posted:I watched the Inside the Episode and the video game creator said that the guy who called Ellie a slur was just trying to protect the community in his own way, and I think I'm not going to watch any more of those. Man, the second Robocop really got some janky programming after leaving OCP
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Apr 17, 2025 02:11
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The smart infected was also trying to protect its community. Really makes you think.
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oh jay posted:The smart infected was also trying to protect its community. Brain mushrooms?! Frankly I find the idea of a mushroom that thinks offensive
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Apr 17, 2025 04:31
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I find the idea of bear mushrooms challenging, offensive even.
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Apr 17, 2025 04:46
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Lionsmane though
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Nothing bad about this episode, but nothing excellent imo. -Catherine O'Hara owns. Her non-standard approach to therapy was the funnest part of the episode. -Abbys grief/rage in the cemetery scene was good. -Dinas actress is suitably charming -the new zombie type is a good addition. Killing the same types over and over in different scenarios or amounts could lose its appeal.
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Does the new zombie type mean the Cordyceps is evolving? Learning? Is that also signalled by the roots in the exposed pipe?
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redshirt posted:Does the new zombie type mean the Cordyceps is evolving? Learning? Is that also signalled by the roots in the exposed pipe? The roots in the pipe are the same system we saw in S1e2, in that it is now signaling some group of infected that there's trouble. So, I think we have the setup for all those preview scenes of them mobbing the wall at Jackson.
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Apr 17, 2025 19:53
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They need some flamethrowers for that poo poo.
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McSpanky posted:I'm still not sure exactly what Ellie was expecting with her rescue with the Fireflies, and why she'd be so upset if it turned out that Joel had to kill a bunch of people to rescue her. Like... he already had to, several times at that point, and she was super grateful? What makes this situation so much different? I think it’s a big case of survivor’s guilt. her being a possible cure was what helped her keep going up to that point in the first game/season, and also, as a lot of others have posted, him making that decision for her (and lied about it in such a way that she might be having a constant doubt about it in the back of her mind). the way he kept being overprotective through the episode underscores her sense that she doesn’t have any agency of her own, at an age (end of her teens going on becoming an adult) where that’s kind of the entire point
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live with fruit posted:I watched the Inside the Episode and the video game creator said that the guy who called Ellie a slur was just trying to protect the community in his own way, and I think I'm not going to watch any more of those. Yeah I had to rewind to make sure I had heard him correctly. You simply don't have to hand it to your fictional character who exists to be a strawman bigot.
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Apr 17, 2025 22:33
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The point is that these people exist now and will exist post apocalypse. There is nothing more to it than that.
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Apr 17, 2025 23:45
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I didn't watch the BTS stuff but in the podcast he says it's a reflection of the fact that wider scale social progress stopped in 2003 and that some people were able to advance and others are stuck in the same mindset they'd have had 20 years ago.
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I'm not sure what the problem is with his comment, pretty much everyone holds their opinions from the perspective that they're the good guy. If you think its a complete endorsement of a fictional bigot's two line role then you're going to struggle watching anything.
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BrownThunder posted:It's a gimmick, he's doing the same in other threads including White Lotus.
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Apr 18, 2025 11:06
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I hate that "inside the episode" poo poo. You just had an hour and millions of dollars to tell your story. Explaining yourself in your next breath is easy out. "Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet," being the most egregious example. A little segment highlighting the makeup, wardrobe, stunt department, etc. would be cool though.
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Apr 18, 2025 11:07
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stev posted:I didn't watch the BTS stuff but in the podcast he says it's a reflection of the fact that wider scale social progress stopped in 2003 and that some people were able to advance and others are stuck in the same mindset they'd have had 20 years ago. That's a weird perspective to have. That guy would still exist if the apocalypse happened in 2013 or 2023.
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It's interesting having just begun to play the second game a few days before watching the premiere. While we just saw Joel loving deck the homophobic dude, the second game begins the following the day. We see the fallout, but not the actual fight. I think it was a good move. One thing with the game is that getting a sense of the built up tension between them at the start was a little wonky. The show really drove home that there's some sort of surrogate father surrogate daughter issues going on.
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Apr 18, 2025 13:46
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FWIW, the dance/punchout scene appeared in one of the pre-release trailers, so many of the game players were aware of it going in
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Kazzah posted:FWIW, the dance/punchout scene appeared in one of the pre-release trailers, so many of the game players were aware of it going in Oh, wow, neat to know. It wasn't super confusing or anything, since you're slooooow walking through down in an exposition crawl, but that makes way more sense.
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