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fart simpson posted:it’s not true, bob dobbs is wrong I agree, fart simpson.
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the somewhat rarer goon "in europe this is abnormal"
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I think he's probably just mid sentence in that photo I don't think thats a smile
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Apr 20, 2023 05:41
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ADINSX posted:I think he's probably just mid sentence in that photo I don't think thats a smile 
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pov: the last thing a cupcake ever sees
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Achmed Jones posted:pov: the last thing a cupcake ever sees hmm maybe it IS a threat display
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Apr 20, 2023 05:43
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you want paul ekmans experiments with just-contacted Fore tribesmen. the universal is the eye thing
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Achmed Jones posted:you hold a smile for eight hours while some nerd with a brush paints a picture and tell me how it goes at the end of my wedding photos i remember my mouth hurting from smiling for so long
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rotor posted:yeah i've always thought its weird that we have this bared teeth thing as an indicator of friendliness, what other animal does that? on that note, what other kinda animal enjoys rubbing their eat holes together for fun
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bob dobbs is dead posted:you want paul ekmans experiments with just-contacted Fore tribesmen. i dont think i do Shame Boy posted:on that note, what other kinda animal enjoys rubbing their eat holes together for fun bonobos apparently
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also peep table 7 in this chapter here and note the sumatrans were materially worse in the 80s at the happiness judgement because there was bared upper teeth https://psu.pb.unizin.org/psych425/chapter/facial-expressions-basic-emotions-theory/
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rotor posted:for instance here's a picture of some famously globalized north korean soldiers 
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bob dobbs is dead posted:also peep table 7 in this chapter here and note the sumatrans were materially worse in the 80s at the happiness judgement because there was bared upper teeth i'm not sayin its not cultural i'm sayin blaming everything on americans is dumb
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tis guy was the most americanized person i can think of, really
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he aint showin his teeth
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bob dobbs is dead posted:he aint showin his teeth are you blind
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bob dobbs is dead posted:also peep table 7 in this chapter here and note the sumatrans were materially worse in the 80s at the happiness judgement because there was bared upper teeth Participants living in isolated cultures showed high recognition rates for happiness and the majority of participants correctly identified sadness and anger For all countries, even the isolated Minangkabau, a majority of participants selected the correct emotion label. For the multiple-emotion judgment task, participants in all cultures provided the most intense rating for the emotions predicted in Table 7. For instance, in the single-judgment task, if participants checked happiness for photo A, in the multiple-judgment task for the same photo A they rated happiness as most intensely present out of all seven emotion labels. In a later study (Ekman & Friesen, 1971), Fore tribe participants (adults and children) were told a story (see Table 4) and then shown a set of three faces. Participants were then asked to select the face that matched the emotion described in the story. Table 4 and Table 5 display results from adult and child participants, respectively. The majority of adult participants selected the correct photos for all six emotions.
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lips evidently covering the teeth, to look less threatening
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fart simpson posted:Participants living in isolated cultures showed high recognition rates for happiness and the majority of participants correctly identified sadness and anger the universals are raised cheekbones and the eye thing, not the teeth, is the point i was making, not that there were not universals
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Apr 20, 2023 05:54
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 wild how american cultural influence reaches back to the 1760s
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bob dobbs is dead posted:lips evidently covering the teeth, to look less threatening Glazed ceramic sculpture of Budai. Ming dynasty, 1486. 
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Caravaggio, known US psyop agent
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take the L, bob
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we'll have to agree to disagree
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bob dobbs is dead posted:we'll have to agree to disagree Zhejiang, China. Northern Song dynasty, 11th century. 
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rotor posted:
i'm getting word that american culture reached back in time to poison Holland in the early 1600s 
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rotor posted:i'm getting word that american culture reached back in time to poison Holland in the early 1600s shocking!
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all these guys are clearly using teh internet
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rotor posted:yeah i've always thought its weird that we have this bared teeth thing as an indicator of friendliness, what other animal does that? dogs but incidentally as part of happy panting i guess?
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Shame Boy posted:all these guys are clearly using teh internet
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Shame Boy posted:all these guys are clearly using teh internet
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bob dobbs is dead posted:we'll have to agree to disagree i mean, your own study link you dropped says even the most isolated culture they found still had a strong majority of people identifying those photos as "happy" and that children did better than adults. did you expect nobody would actually skim it? it outright says their studies support the hypothesis that emotions and facial expressions are largely biological
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bob dobbs is dead posted:we'll have to agree to disagree you'll have to agree to being wrong is what we'll have to agree to
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fart simpson posted:i mean, your own study link you dropped says even the most isolated culture they found still had a strong majority of people identifying those photos as "happy" and that children did better than adults. did you expect nobody would actually skim it? it outright says their studies support the hypothesis that emotions and facial expressions are largely biological it is absolutely biological. based upon the eye thing and cheekbones, not teeth. as i said like 3 times now
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bob dobbs is dead posted:it is absolutely biological. based upon the eye thing and cheekbones, not teeth that link doesnt mention teeth. it shows pictures of people smiling showing their teeth though and says this: In addition, the overwhelming recognition rates demonstrated by children further supports evolutionary theory – which suggests emotions are biological adaptations and thus should be expressed in young children.
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Apr 20, 2023 06:06
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rotor posted:you'll have to agree to being wrong is what we'll have to agree to frankly, its this.
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citation for that formation of the happy face is ekmans 1993 review
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Shame Boy posted:on that note, what other kinda animal enjoys rubbing their eat holes together for fun lots of animals groom and preen each other with their mouths, and the lips and tongue are among the most touch-sensitive tissues in the human body i suspect that the finer details of kissing in humans is culturally absorbed, as there is considerable variation a lot of human behavior is typical primate stuff except with layers of anxiety and self-denial on top
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i kiss in a big bed with my wife
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bob dobbs is dead posted:citation for that formation of the happy face is ekmans 1993 review ekman says that showing your teeth while happy is an american cultural export? i somehow dont think thats true. evidence: that stuff rotor & i posted up page
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