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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

bob dobbs is dead posted:

this may be thiels "stole from other rich peeps" moment, now that i think about it. theres some litigated free speech carveouts specifically for causing bank runs

:allears:

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

PIZZA.BAT posted:

the problem is companies needing the money now, not 'you'll get it eventually'

i'm guessing there's a lot of short term loans and calls to investors being made this weekend

good point

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Pinterest Mom posted:

they certainly *want* that to happen.

https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1634771851514900480


they're trying to induce a generalised bank run so they get bailed out

this guy should be in loving jail.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

bob dobbs is dead posted:

i mean, svb peeps didnt line up, they got wires

well,

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1634254882046889986

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

bob dobbs is dead posted:

bank runs are generically just contagious like that, whether peeps want it to happen or not

a lot of vcs and tech folks have spent all weekend sowing FUD online.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

anyways you dont gotta hand it to them but i will definitely laugh at the vcs spending the last several years just outright supporting republican party ideals, the bank itself successfully lobbying the trump admin to lower liquidity stress requirements, and then this happens and the olive branch the Trumps extend is "your bank failed because it's TOO GAY buh bye sweetheart"

https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1634921788068204544

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

mystes posted:

I mean I think you're overthinking it kind of? It's as simple as "bad thing happened? oh, okay it's because of [insert current bogeyman/talking point]"

Trump was also constantly accusing silicon valley as being too liberal during his presidency as a way to pressure tech companies into letting him say whatever he wanted

Even people sucking up to him would be unlikely to not expect this to happen I think

i know thats not literally what happened im just having fun

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/FlatEartherKitt/status/1634906057796616192

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Beeftweeter posted:

lmao "drives a used honda odyssey" as a sympathy point

"husband works in manufacturing" (husband is ex-mckinsey consultant, now steel plant exec)

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

The_Franz posted:

https://twitter.com/ChuckVacuumBeth/status/1634781787942518784

this is totally hurting me, a poor working mother of 4 millionaire who dreams of subscription party planning services

^^:bahgawd:

she also scrubbed the pricing page after people caught it lol



https://www.strongsuit.co/strongsuit-pricing

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

this is like the exact polar opposite of the icelandic guy being hosed by musk. the absolute least sympathetic people in the universe.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1634946278269526016

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Jonny 290 posted:

ive decided to get inordinately mad about fractional reserve banking, as a stunt

good news you have company
https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1634363393498038273
https://mobile.twitter.com/_ali_taylor/status/1634266779592585216

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

rotor posted:

I think SVB failing is bad. I also think the fed should absolutely not bail them out.

yep

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

https://twitter.com/modestproposal1/status/1634948185469902850

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Mr. Nice! posted:

hey bob dobbs how is breaking quantum computing going?

you’re chicken littling like a mofo. this isn’t going to be an issue at any other banks because peter theil et al aren’t trying to withdraw $50bn at once and other banks actually have reserves to cover withdrawals.

the auction today will have a buyer for svb’s assets and all of the depositors will be made nearly if not completely whole. shareholders are eating the loss, though.

FDIC "safeguarding" uninsured deposits is a just bailout on the sly. Guaranteeing all deposits (vs FDIC) lowers SVB's liabilities, increasing the value of its assets (mostly, its stock). That means whoever buys it will likely pay more for its stock to its owners- a good deal of whom are its executives and venture capital firms who invested in the startups that bank w/ SVB.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

some banks are better at it than others.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Beeftweeter posted:

i hate to sound somewhat chuddy about this but you can't always trust the media to be objective

its not good if thats become a "chud" opinion

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Mr. Nice! posted:

no more banks are going to eat poo poo because none were in the position of svb and have people trying to withdraw $42bn at once.

jason calacancis is trying his best tho.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

rotor posted:

i feel like this is another one of those things where internet people immediately become experts in the crisis du jour and im kinda tired of it. idkwtf and i dont think anyone posting about it here k's wtf either so lets all just settle down and lol at all the bullcrap

man has an innate will to post.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

bob dobbs is dead posted:

it was mortgage securities that time, this time is long dated treasuries

its also mortgage securities this time.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1635042718484185088

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

rotor posted:

well, I;m man enough to admit when i'm wrong



it's so over.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

The_Franz posted:

markets seem convinced that all the banks collapsing heralds an imminent return to near-zero interest rates and are already pricing it in

lol
lmao

i noticed this too. the good times are back baybee :coolfish:

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

what's going on with the $6000 a month todo list woman that decided to make herself the main character yesterday? I forgot her name already

she was taken to prison this morning by federal marshals.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

(im guessing that those mortgage backed securities they holding are real fukkin bad)

funny how that can happen

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

I think we should drop a hydrogen bomb on San Mateo County, California.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i do have high hopes for some fallout in at least crypto, and quite possibly this being the little push for a lot of the worst vc garbage as well

im just excited to see what completely insane and hosed up takeaways silicon valley and VCs emerge with once the smoke clears. surely a blanket of somber introspection will drape itself over the peninsula any day now.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

there'll be a startup offering a service that splits all your deposits between hundreds of banks or something like that

lol i had that thought when i was out walking today


very reasonable expense ratio of course :mmmhmm:

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

good point. no startup has ever invented a stupider version of something that already exists.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

i'm 5926 Lonyo Ave Detroit Michigan.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

we should introduce a class of mega posts that are like 100 regular posts and make normal posts obsolete

youre describing my posts.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

@Jaso n deleted all of his panicky all caps doomsday tweets lol

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


this is like a magic eye but the longer you look at it the more it looks like a tim and eric thing.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Internaut! posted:

calling for the extermination of a group of people is cool and good so long as you're quoting a rich white guy from the 19th century

the article doesnt even use the word it was just a bad tweet. the article itself is pretty good.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

knox_harrington posted:

I can see why bottom left guy was the progressive choice. blue shirt and patterned tie??? mould -> broken

you said it brother

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

bob dobbs is dead posted:

never seen a hired ceo internal or external shorter than 6', and i dont think i ever will

founders will be 5' 6" or whatever all the time. you can always tell a room full of founders vs room full of hired ceos

funny to post this on the same page as people talking about lloyd blankfein.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

bob dobbs is dead posted:

if you want a proper toxx, i will do one and only one:

by december 31, 2025, at least 100 banks will have failed in the world (so not just usa) compared to march 1 2023 :toxx:

current count is svb, signature, silvergate, svb britain. credit suisse just issued a fuckin nutso notice

toxx 3 year out? boring.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

i might be remembering it wrong, but i think its not just retail and the overwhelming majority of all trades happen at open and close.

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

$920/mo hoa fee on that thing woof.

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