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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Gnossiennes posted:

california is one of the few states you can't get spores legally lol

granted psilocybin is decriminalized in a couple of cities, but i don't live in them

come visit oakland you can legit just buy them in a shop

it's ostensibly a church but uh, yeah

on the other hand, while i havent checked in a while, a bunch of the things in TiHKAL have been readily available over the internet. i did grow shrooms once, but then discovered it was far easier to just buy a batch of 4-AcO-DMT from grey market sites. poo poo's literally recommended in scientific literature as "easier to source or synth for (actual) research than psilocybin and functionally the same thing"

the US RC market has suffered in general from a combination of darknet markets making scheduled substances with better name recognition more readily available and increased customs scrutiny trying to find anything that might be drugs due to the fentanyl crisis, but classical psychedelics have generally remained one of the easier things to find because law enforcement doesn't care that much about them compared to drugs with more abuse potential

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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

DELETE CASCADE posted:

i don't do any drugs harder than weed, but if i did, i would never buy research chemicals from the internet UNLESS i had the ability to verify that this random white powder is what it says on the bag. can you tell it's 4-AcO-DMT without expensive chem lab equipment you don't have? are there easy testing kits for these things like they have for club drugs?

one of the best things about weed (flower, not concentrates) is that you can look at it and smell it and easily get a good idea of the quality. and even an idiot can tell whether it's weed or not

grey market vendors have little incentive to not sell what they're putting on the tin in general. black market drugs step on poo poo because getting Xkg of pure cocaine is legitimately difficult (because it's literally illegal) and the customer base is more likely to be either naive or willing to buy whatever cut product they can get. if you're buying from a dealer at a club, they're likely the only option because you haven't brought your own drugs and you can't exactly step out to the nextdoor recreational drugs store to get something that's gone through appropriate regulatory vetting

historically places would sell complete bunk (like literally flour or turmeric powder), but that kinda fell way off when darknet markets appeared. there's not much point trying to scam people on the online grey market when the online black market will sell something better. the grey market vendors that remain are generally selling what they say they're selling, because they're selling to a niche market

risks are less that they're selling something entirely different than what they're saying they're selling something that isn't produced to pharmaceutical standards and contains harmful byproducts, or that they've inadvertently swapped inventory. those sorts of accidents led to the notorious MPTP and Bromo-DragonFLY incidents, but those are uncommon. it's admittedly a gamble, where you weigh that sort of thing happening versus getting a hosed street cut elsewhere

as far as testing, https://www.drugsdata.org/ (and some similar services) exist to perform the expensive chem lab testing you don't have the equipment or expertise to confirm an exact chemical match, if you want to pay a fair amount and wait a while. outside that https://dancesafe.org/test-kits-and-risk-reduction/ and similar offer basic reagent kits that will usually distinguish between "sold as MDMA but it's actually meth or fent"

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