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Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Punkreas posted:

Trying to catch up as I can, again, I have long work hours - it's 4:30am right now, drinking coffee and getting a post in before heading out, which I'm on long call today until 8pm and that's if I'm lucky and we don't admit a patient right before the shift ends

Anyway, that's why I pop in and out

Not sure if bumper can be verified? If you want check posts, one of my first in the thread alluded to it (as it's completely passive, I submit nothing), and when Toal posted his role I told everyone that I could confirm that he was telling the truth about being a bumper - I didn't say why then to avoid a role claim, but it was because his description was exactly what my role was

I'll be here for an hour before leaving - I feel like this will end before the deadline but I'm hoping to check in by the final hour if not kept late at work (which I really hope not because I need sleeeeep)

You are a verified bumper, so yes.

Sandwolf targeted you Night 1 and was redirected to toal, who was then launched into RWC and received a mason recruit 1shot.

The problem is, so is Taste. Maug shot taste and it was redirected into IA.

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# ? Nov 11, 2025 07:57

Punkreas: May 13, 2013; *chews on head*; Lipstick Apathy

(I keep calling it work like they pay me for this torture)

Forgot to reinforce: I've only ever had my bumper activated on N1, every other night was even more boring on my end (as I wasn't ever in a masonry either so it was just waiting for the next day to do anything at all)

# ? Apr 27, 2023 08:42

Maugrim: Feb 16, 2011; I eat your face

Punkreas posted:

(I keep calling it work like they pay me for this torture)

Forgot to reinforce: I've only ever had my bumper activated on N1, every other night was even more boring on my end (as I wasn't ever in a masonry either so it was just waiting for the next day to do anything at all)

So you�ve had the most boring first game in the world whilst I�ve had something of an intense baptism into the world of Mafia

And yet here we both are, alive in the final stages and still utterly confused :v:

# ? Apr 27, 2023 09:23

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Hi Maugrim

Mind answering my question from earlier?

# ? Apr 27, 2023 09:27

Maugrim: Feb 16, 2011; I eat your face

I�ll take a look when I can. Teachers strike today so I have to play with the kids

# ? Apr 27, 2023 09:36

Punkreas: May 13, 2013; *chews on head*; Lipstick Apathy

Maugrim posted:

So you�ve had the most boring first game in the world whilst I�ve had something of an intense baptism into the world of Mafia

And yet here we both are, alive in the final stages and still utterly confused

Yeah I've been just kind of coasting this game whereas you have been effectively winning it single-handedly!

I've got like 10 minutes before heading out the door, any questions before I have to go?

# ? Apr 27, 2023 09:53

Maugrim: Feb 16, 2011; I eat your face

Punkreas posted:

Yeah I've been just kind of coasting this game whereas you have been effectively winning it single-handedly!

I've got like 10 minutes before heading out the door, any questions before I have to go?

Sorry, yes, how much more time are you likely to have before deadline? Just the last hour if shift allows?

# ? Apr 27, 2023 10:03

Punkreas: May 13, 2013; *chews on head*; Lipstick Apathy

Yep, I may try to sneak on this afternoon (8-12 hours from now) but don't have any guaranteed breaks

# ? Apr 27, 2023 10:06

Maugrim: Feb 16, 2011; I eat your face

Then I shall endeavour to marshal my thoughts and arguments into a single convenient post before then!

# ? Apr 27, 2023 10:12

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

I am sorry but this makes no sense.

Taste is just throwing all of the arguments at the wall and hoping one sticks.

He's accusing me of both being clever scum and then stupidly attacking Maug anyway.

He's also both arguing that I need to be killed tonight, because I may be able to redirect the vig - and then argues voting punk instead... so I can redirect the vig...?

This is, of course, also ignoring that neither punk nor taste can be targeted by vigs if they're bumpers, which HE KNOWS.

Taste isn't thinking beyond this game day, this is desperate flailing by scum.

##vote taste

At the time of this post, maugrim had concluded what he�d do was to vote me and vig you despite my objections. You know this, because it�s there on the page. Don�t act like you suddenly can�t read.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 12:55

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Okay my honest answer is...

I don't know.

I think I said so already, but it may have been in the masonry.

According to the wording, I launch a player.

The launched player then "randomly visits" another player. I have no control over the target, that's why I only ever said "I launched X" not "I launched X into Y".

My initial assumption was that I do redirect the entire action to another person. However, I've had some time to think about this while I was at the doctor and something occurred to me.

You said that you knew I launched you into taste. Did you receive a result to that sort?

Because it occurred to me that if I had redirected you into taste, which then redirected into IA, you would have gotten IA's power, not Taste's.

So I think that it may generate a secondary visit after all - i. e. the vig bounced off taste, and then my launch hit taste and gave you a bumper.

One might consider asking the mod, op. Not like we could trust you if we think you�re scum but come on

# ? Apr 27, 2023 12:56

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Here we are in mylo and there�s a lingering question about my role. Guess I�ll just never know as it was dropped from the heavens in an alien language

# ? Apr 27, 2023 12:59

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

At the time of this post, maugrim had concluded what he�d do was to vote me and vig you despite my objections. You know this, because it�s there on the page. Don�t act like you suddenly can�t read.

Which means nothing because your plan still loses town the game.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 12:59

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Which means nothing because your plan still loses town the game.

Oh, you�re admitting punk is town? Ty

##vote yami

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:00

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

Here we are in mylo and there�s a lingering question about my role. Guess I�ll just never know as it was dropped from the heavens in an alien language

Bruh if I use my action on Maug, and Maug says I redirected him into you when I haven't said anything yet at the time, I'm going to assume it redirects people. Why would I ask the mod at that point.

Just one more for the bad faith argument pile I guess.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:01

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Bruh if I use my action on Maug, and Maug says I redirected him into you when I haven't said anything yet at the time, I'm going to assume it redirects people. Why would I ask the mod at that point.

Just one more for the bad faith argument pile I guess.

For clarity, like any reasonable human being would when faced with uncertainty regarding an aspect of a role

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:02

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Waiting on the �oh, you�re voting me now??? Incomprehensible and insincere!� post

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:04

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Bruh if I use my action on Maug, and Maug says I redirected him into you when I haven't said anything yet at the time, I'm going to assume it redirects people. Why would I ask the mod at that point.

Just one more for the bad faith argument pile I guess.

Just to make absolutely sure you can�t make any further hay on this angle:

Ask him now.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:05

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

Oh, you�re admitting punk is town? Ty

##vote yami

Oh hey, yet another bad faith argument that doesn't make a lick of sense.

You "have some doubt on him" but have been primarily pushing me. Which one is it?

You're just arguing on all sides, like I said. If Punk is scum, I'm not.

If Punk is town, I'd be lying scum and able to redirect Maug away from myself.

Once again you're doing half assed gotcha arguments rather than actually thinking poo poo through, because you don't actually care about any possibilities beyond this game day.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:06

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

For clarity, like any reasonable human being would when faced with uncertainty regarding an aspect of a role

And my point is that THERE WASN'T ANY UNCERTAINTY UNTIL NOW.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:07

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Lmao 🔮

Have some dignity

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:07

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

Just to make absolutely sure you can�t make any further hay on this angle:

Ask him now.

I did. No response yet.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:08

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

Lmao 🔮

Have some dignity

Have actual arguments.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:08

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Have actual arguments.

You�ve posted nonsense since I went to sleep and I�m convinced that you�re scum in a way I wasn�t last night when you hadn�t done this weird spiral

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:09

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Whether punk will see it, who knows

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:10

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Have actual arguments.

Anyway this is the root of it, scum low-key mad that they might lose for �bad� votes instead of good ones

We�ve all been there

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:11

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

You�ve posted nonsense since I went to sleep and I�m convinced that you�re scum in a way I wasn�t last night when you hadn�t done this weird spiral

Bruh

I literally stated that I trust you and paranoid the least, but I don't think you're teamed at the time.

This is literally untrue.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:11

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Bruh

I literally stated that I trust you and paranoid the least, but I don't think you're teamed at the time.

This is literally untrue.

???

I went to sleep 6 hours ago. Paranoid was long dead

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:12

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Here, since you apparently don't even read the posts of the people you're "casing":

Yami Fenrir posted:

So I'm done rereading and I like, kind of hate how little confidence I have in my reads.

At this point I'm

From most townie to least townie:

But I don't even feel confident enough to properly call taste a full scum lean anymore and I don't feel like they're on a team with Taste either.

Also putting yourself on a read list as the most townie is cringe.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:13

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Either maugrim or punkreas is going to have to move their votes at this point, there�s plenty of evidence for them to review, I�m content to let this last flurry speak for itself

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:14

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Here, since you apparently don't even read the posts of the people you're "casing":

Anything else irrelevant from even further back you can reference?

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:15

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

You don�t think I�ve been consistently suspicious of you??? Explain this:

t a s t e posted:

I know nobody asked me but this is exactly the exchange i had with town anarc in my last game

yami seems off to me

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:17

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Maug, please do consider Taste's behavior over the last few game days.

He was laying low for most of the game until last night.

At which he pushed Paranoid as scum so hard that he practically bullied GW into voting him.

Only for then to conveniently decide "oh no maybe paranoid isn't scum after all" and walk back into a "I don't want to hold the game up reasoning."

While even setting up for a punk push the next day.

This is scum behavior.

I am done arguing this as well - if you don't see it by now, I don't know what to tell you.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:18

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

You don�t think I�ve been consistently suspicious of you??? Explain this:

Okay, I'll give you that one. I misread, I thought you were accusing ME of being inconsistent on my suspicion on YOU, not the other way around.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:20

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

I realized it was a bad vote. Granted, my preferred option was too, but having some level of hesitancy in what we all thought was the last vote isn�t indicative of a guilty heart

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:20

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

This back and forth is going to kill one or both of us over however long it takes punkreas to log back on so I�m not going to say any more about it. I�ve already been a little spicier than I think we shoot for these days and it�s not my intention to get into any real nastiness

If you win here, congratulations, sincerely

If you aren�t scum, lol, we�ve both been bamboozled

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:25

Maugrim: Feb 16, 2011; I eat your face

There is a lot of argument and I can't even parse it because you're posting too fast.

I don't have time to go back and look into the remaining questions in my mind, let alone Yami's questions, because when I get a chance to glance at the thread there's 26 new posts

It's almost like scum is trying to make a lot of noise to try and prevent town from thinking things through properly.

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:25

Yami Fenrir: Jan 25, 2015; Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Maugrim posted:

There is a lot of argument and I can't even parse it because you're posting too fast.

I don't have time to go back and look into the remaining questions in my mind, let alone Yami's questions, because when I get a chance to glance at the thread there's 26 new posts

It's almost like scum is trying to make a lot of noise to try and prevent town from thinking things through properly.

My main question was regarding what result you got when I launched you.

Did it specifically tell you you launched into taste?

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:26

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Maugrim posted:

There is a lot of argument and I can't even parse it because you're posting too fast.

I don't have time to go back and look into the remaining questions in my mind, let alone Yami's questions, because when I get a chance to glance at the thread there's 26 new posts

It's almost like scum is trying to make a lot of noise to try and prevent town from thinking things through properly.

> yami says I�m being insincere
> I say yami is being opportunistic and misrepresenting
> repeat

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# ? Nov 11, 2025 07:57

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

I don�t have anyone to blame but myself for my bad reads and absence. I had a work conference/vacation out of town and also was running my own game, not an excuse but an explanation. I should have been more active earlier in the game especially as my reads were bad and might have improved

# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:29

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