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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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This is my first mafia game hello. It’s 3:30am and I have a stinking headache.

Also I’m town.

It makes sense to me that Opop would claim their role if true, but they could equally well be town or scum and still want to claim it. Guess we’ll see who gets a visit

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Also I was just thinking what pinball machine part would correspond to that role and I guess it’s the ball itself

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Toalpaz posted:

🥺 Are you also a pinball part

Are you not? :raise:

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Johnny Keats posted:

How do i do it every time?

It was such a scummy post I’m struggling to believe you’re scum because scum would be more careful. So good job there!

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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This is witchcraft. Teach me your ways

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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She clearly had instructions, voting for her makes the lights go up, trying to figure out what makes them go down

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Paranoid Dude posted:

Much like a multiball on a real pinball machine, it is merely a trick to distract you from the real objective... bouncing that sweet, sweet shiny orb.

I absolutely love seeing your username in the context of Mafia posts, tickles me every time.

Returning home from holiday tonight, looking forward to getting on my PC and doing some real (terrible) scumreads. My 3am brain was looking sidelong at Ignatius and Sandwolf for some reason.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Opopanax posted:

D1s suck and long D1s are even worse let's just do this thing

I'd personally like this day to last as lo
ng as possib
le because my kids go back to school on Monday and I might actually
have time to play

Also my cat is sitting on the enter key

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Hi, I'm a pretty decent candidate for that (unless you still think I'm obvious scum, in which case you should actually case me).

Okay I was already sus on Iggy but this post has tipped me over, why would you admit to being a non-redirector and make yourself a target for NK

Even if it’s reverse psychology and you are a town-aligned redirector it would be a p risky move with unpredictable outcomes favouring scum

##vote Ignatius M. Meen

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Hey, at least I’m trying to generate content, mr too-jaded-to-make-real-posts

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I know my newbie status is on full display here but I genuinely don’t know what argument this


is making so it’s very hard to attack it.

Best guess is that I put too much effort into a post for day 1 and that’s a faux pas?

Or my argument is obviously awful, but that cannot possibly be the case.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I do take your point though and will refrain from name-calling. Sorry binus.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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That’s useful food for thought, thanks. At the risk of soliciting more mafia dadding, why is mafia dadding considered bad?

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Opopanax posted:

Maugrim claims that this is their first game, and yet they’re posting is perfect. Curious

Why thank you :love:

If you mean my use of the lingo, I’ve been observing a couple of games for the last few days and I’m a pretty good mimic

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Johnny Keats posted:

I hear you in terms of what you are saying, but I don't like this response one bit. Having played with you before though, I think it is just how you play. Just so you are aware though, I get pinged when you talk about strategy for voting that entirely disregards the fact that we are trying to vote out scum.

I’ll defend GW here because hers is pretty much my reasoning too, there just isn’t enough info day 1 to make it better than a coin flip whether the kill is town or scum, but the idea is to generate enough interaction during the day that people can examine the known town/scum result and make further reads based on it. If you don’t have a day 1 kill then day 2 is just relitigating day 1 but with the scum one death closer to victory.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I’m not a fan of Keats vote either but I don’t (yet) have a concrete alternative to propose

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I've read over the thread again and reassessed, first off Iggy is now null for me after their explanations so ##unvote

Based mainly on gut feel:
Tentative scum reads: Infinitum, Paranoid Dude - inf has more votes right now (1!) so ##vote Infinitum, sorry dad
Strong town reads: Green Wing, Punkreas
Special mention: Idle Amalgam, brain says "lean town" but gut isn't convinced and I dunno why

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I can also see the argument for taste being scum. I'm not comfortable piling up on either Keats or Stalinator, of course I'll hammer whoever if it comes down to the wire but I really think Keats especially is gonna flip town

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Idle Amalgam posted:

I felt like I've played with them before, but maybe that was some other pbp or trad game BS. :thunk:

It was Thunderdome probably, I won a week like years ago and I think you were active then

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Sandwolf is the only one who hasn’t, you can see full breakdown if you click through the votefinder graphic in the op.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I don’t know anything about in-jokes but I didn’t take the cop claim even slightly seriously.

You’re EU time as well I take it, GW? Things move so slow in the mornings.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I wonder who is getting voted out. With only Sand not voting some people will have to switch. I’m happy to go Inf, Paranoid Dude, toal or taste but anyone else will require some persuasion.

Maybe opop too for curiosity

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Johnny Keats posted:

The deadline has apparently been stealthily moved to 8pm EDT

I believe this is an honest mistake but wow your posting does not do you any favours :v:

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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My reads haven’t changed, still won’t vote Keats or GW but fine to switch to toal, taste or paranoid if any of them makes a late push

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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wins32767 posted:

Hey folks! My company just left. What do I need to catch up on before the deadline?

There are basically two schools of thought in the voting, some say Johnny Keats and Green Wing (who both drew attention to themselves early) look incredibly scummy and some say they look incredibly town. I’m in the latter category although starting to get a bit leery of Keats finally with recent posts

Side votes have been argued for Paranoid Dude being low-key scummy, and toal and taste being lurky scummy

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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What is the definition of a power role?

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Good morning fellow pinball parts! That looks like an acceptable night result, although opop’s role looks like it was kinda useful if he decided to play along with town.

I definitely got redirected last night.

And I believe Keats did misunderstand his role PM and could easily have gotten redirected too, which to me means Keats and Iggy aren’t necessarily XOR scum.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Looking at the binus flip I’m speculating that their mason partner will be the top left flipper and also have some kind of redirection power. Since the partner is presumably town I hope they will claim when they check the thread.

Could be more than one partner I guess, dunno how big unconfirmed masonries usually are in games this size

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Rhymes With Clue posted:

Somebody crashed into me. I don't know who.

The spreadsheet for this is gonna be awesome.

I'm thinking this could easily have been Opop before he died.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Idle Amalgam posted:

I'm also in an unconfirmed masonry. That's the extent of my claiming. I won't say which beautiful nerd(s) I'm paired/grouped with. :wink:

Oh right, I was just going over my notes from yesterday and saw this - so I guess IA is binus' partner, duh

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Wow it feels bad posting several times in a row even though I know this is how Mafia is done, but things are just really quiet in the weekday mornings when I have the most time to play!

I've been going over Johnny Keats' posts with a fine-toothed comb and I have to say, despite the seemingly scattershot and aggressive style, they are extremely internally consistent, for which reason I'm inclined to believe his roleclaim. I am also, on a re-read, believing that his action does in fact resolve first in the night:

quote:

I am the "coin slot".

ability: i can ##activate a player at night (not myself). the activated player is immune from blocks/redirection and the resolution order becomes position 1. this means they go before any other role besides this one. i will also receive info about that player's power. this information will not universally apply to the action which was boosted (for example if it was the scum kill), it will only tell me the innate role.

Nothing in this description is inconsistent with anything he's said before, as far as I can tell. I guess it's POSSIBLE that a redirect action targeting Keats might be resolved before deciding Keats' target, but that would be counter to the power as described, in my opinion.

Therefore

##vote Meen

and

Toalpaz posted:

by the way we are 1000)% killing kea(ts)n if meen flips town.

(I also well remember I got a :stare: from binus when I jumped on Meen day 1 - that's right friend, discredit the posts targeting your scum buddy!)

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I currently believe Toal is town and being honest in her reads but I still don’t see Green Wing being scum. In fact she’s one of my most confident town reads. :shrug:

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Idle Amalgam posted:

I was in the unconfirmed masonry with bee and now I've entered another with someone else, but bee tried to push meen for town and put up toal, opop and win as scum.

So I'll reread all those players later to see if he was maybe bussing or trying to soft clear meen in my eyes.

Can you tell us anything about your night actions or anything that targeted you? I’m confident you’re town and trying to gather information to figure out what happened with my own action.

Same question to Toalpaz actually.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Fascinating yet annoyingly unhelpful, thanks.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I love how in tune Punkreas’ and my thoughts have been this whole game, with both of us being the newbies

Paranoid’s arguments have turned me somewhat away from them as scum, but not changed my mind on the Keats/Meen issue. I think one of them is scum and that Meen is the more likely of the two so my vote stays there.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I get that there’s no good reason for Keats to assume that Meen doubled a kill but I don’t think Keats claimed that that part was a known fact, just his belief.

What he does know, assuming he’s been telling the truth, is that 1) Meen has a doubling ability and 2) Meen is lying about being a doctor and got Inf eliminated by doing so.

The main reason I believe Keats is that nothing in his account so far as been self-inconsistent. If he’s lying, then either he was provided with or invented a fake role from scratch at the start of the game or he’s been really good at not slipping up while inventing more info about it.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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I see we’re already -1 right now so I’m going to say - hey Keats, I’ve been arguing your corner all day, if you truly have the ability you claim please lay it on me tonight :biglips:

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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wins32767 posted:

So Opop was a self aligned pseudo-rolecop per the role PM. Keats suddenly has a new part of his role that allows him to rolecop and claims he nailed Meen who counterclaimed the flipped Jailor yesterday. Do I have this all right?

Based on claims alone Keats looks worse for string claiming and having a similar role as a third party.

##vote Keats

I wouldn’t say Opop was a pseudo rolecop, more of a pseudo watcher?

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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

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Life happens sometimes, I assume.

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