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Sorry just had to get that out there, really going to bed now. I don't know if we should still risk vote taste or punkreas today/vig yami tonight, or just vote yami off. How compelling is the evidence? You tell me
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Yami Fenrir posted:I do want a response to this though. I knew it was passive. I got full info on the action when received.
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Apr 27, 2023 04:40
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I think you’re the scum, Yami. But I also don’t think you have a redirect or BP right now so I’m fine to try and vig you tonight. Of Punk and taste I think taste is much more likely scum and am willing to vote them today if you and Punk are on board.
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Apr 27, 2023 05:10
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Yami Fenrir posted:Why do you think that? Because scum didn’t destroy anyone night 3 (compare with the flip flavour for night 5) and nobody has flipped a role that could prevent a scum kill on someone. Therefore scum withheld and the only reason I can think of for that is so they could carry out another action. Punk and taste are just bumpers and don’t have actions, whereas you used your action on me.
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Apr 27, 2023 05:19
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t a s t e posted:If I was scum I sure as poo poo wouldn’t target the guy I knew pulled a bumper off of me If you’re the last remaining scum you surely don’t care which townie you kill
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Apr 27, 2023 05:25
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And Yami asked me earlier if I knew my bumper would be a passive. I think they targeted me for the nk hoping like hell it was an active ability and I wouldn’t use it.
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Apr 27, 2023 05:27
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t a s t e posted:Also can we please be clear about whether punk is actually confirmed as a bumper, because him dropping off a vote early and just leaving is sus and we haven’t even talked about it! This is moving very quickly and I’m on my phone in bed. I know I believe punk is a bumper but finding the evidence will be a pain until I’m at my computer. I do find the meta “he wasn’t even around during the last night” argument unfortunately convincing though
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Apr 27, 2023 05:31
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Yami Fenrir posted:Taste is the one that asked. I just said "I would like an answer too." True, I misread, apologies I have to say I am amused by the potential scenario where we vote off taste, I vig Yami and Yami NKs me leaving Punkreas as a lone townie bumper standing in the ruins of the machine.
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Apr 27, 2023 05:35
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t a s t e posted:Why do you think yami won’t just redirect you? With what ability? The launch doesn’t redirect the targets action as far as I know. Even if it does, if they use the launch, they won’t be performing a NK so it will be 2-1 the next day and you can vote them off.
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Apr 27, 2023 05:38
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Wait no I’m wrong it will be 1-1
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Apr 27, 2023 05:39
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Okay, taste here has actually given me pause to stop and think about how Yami’s action works. I don’t think it redirects my action but I think Yami believes it does so I’ll have to check back over my notes once I’m out of bed
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Apr 27, 2023 05:41
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Just want to go back and address thisYami Fenrir posted:I think this is a bad argument. Bumpers are passive - you know this because you had an oneshot. Taste could have easily carried out a kill on top. 1st para, my whole point is yes, bumpers are passive, and yet whoever it was didn’t carry out a kill. 2nd para, because you were the last scum left and knew you had to build townie cred to have a chance of surviving. Launching a safe town bet would do that. This, while the presumed SK was still alive, was your best shot as there would always be the assumption that the SK and the scum kill both targeted the same person by sheer chance. 3rd para, nobody’s seen any kill protection from any flips so far. I think the scum kill is just fiat immune from being redirected back to scum.
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Apr 27, 2023 05:55
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t a s t e posted:Look in my eyes This is the scummiest post I’ve ever seen, haha Whether I vote you or Yami is going to come down to whether I believe Yami’s action can redirect my kill, I think.
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Apr 27, 2023 05:57
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Maugrim posted:Just want to go back and address this Okay I do see what you mean now re kill protection, if scum are immune to scum kill but not immune to having it redirected back at them then we would see a no scum kill in that circumstance. Ugh this game is doing my head in
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Apr 27, 2023 06:12
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I’m gonna go with the option that will make me feel real clever if they flip scum, and not the options that will make me feel like I shrugged and flipped a coin. ##vote Yami
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Apr 27, 2023 06:22
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I do want to see what Punk does when he actually has time to play, yeah
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Apr 27, 2023 06:30
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Punkreas posted:(I keep calling it work like they pay me for this torture) So you’ve had the most boring first game in the world whilst I’ve had something of an intense baptism into the world of Mafia And yet here we both are, alive in the final stages and still utterly confused 
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Apr 27, 2023 09:23
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I’ll take a look when I can. Teachers strike today so I have to play with the kids
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Apr 27, 2023 09:36
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Punkreas posted:Yeah I've been just kind of coasting this game whereas you have been effectively winning it single-handedly! Sorry, yes, how much more time are you likely to have before deadline? Just the last hour if shift allows?
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Apr 27, 2023 10:03
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Then I shall endeavour to marshal my thoughts and arguments into a single convenient post before then!
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Apr 27, 2023 10:12
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There is a lot of argument and I can't even parse it because you're posting too fast. I don't have time to go back and look into the remaining questions in my mind, let alone Yami's questions, because when I get a chance to glance at the thread there's 26 new posts It's almost like scum is trying to make a lot of noise to try and prevent town from thinking things through properly.
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Apr 27, 2023 13:25
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Yami Fenrir posted:My main question was regarding what result you got when I launched you. Thank you. No it didn't. It said I crashed into someone and I got a one-shot bumper from it. Meanwhile, my vig aimed at taste hit IA. Later in the thread, taste independently claimed someone crashed into them on the night in question: t a s t e posted:Someone was launched onto me N3 and it wasn’t claimed, I don’t think. I don’t like that. I'd already linked "crashed into" with your launch ability so the conclusion seemed clear from my perspective. Since I was already aiming at taste and your launch ability threw me at taste, my conclusion was that my shot got redirected to IA and wiped out their bumper for the night, while your launch crashed me into taste after that (either after deflection from one or more other bumpers or directly, since the launch target is random) and that gained me the one-shot. I can't think of any other sensible interpretation unless taste was lying about being crashed into, but I can't see any reason for that in the context, even if they're scum.
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Apr 27, 2023 13:38
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Okay so I've done some rereading and yolo motherfuckers let's finish this ##vote taste
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Apr 27, 2023 14:53
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Good game everyone, I enjoyed it even though it was super stressful at times. Yami I was really loving impressed by your play and will be extremely wary of you in any future games!
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Apr 27, 2023 20:45
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wins32767 posted:How would the scum get 1 shots? They went to the player that they randomly visited, no? Also, I definitely didn't want the kill to have yet another layer of randomness. The one shots went to the launched player. The visited player just got a "crashed into" message Yami Fenrir posted:Suffering from success Thank you, I think I will. Perhaps a short break first though 
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A fourth scum who was a bumper, like we were all assuming near the end there, would have been a good shout I'd have thought. The reason I was assuming it was because I'd read (or misremembered reading) that 3 townies to 1 scum was a more normal ratio.
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