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I don’t read that as saying the masonry is fake. Recall, I agreed that Josef wasn’t lying about that in particular and RWC has not so much as insinuated that I was lying
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Nep-Nep posted:I don’t read that as saying the masonry is fake. Recall, I agreed that Josef wasn’t lying about that in particular and RWC has not so much as insinuated that I was lying it is literally the same language they used here earlier Rhymes With Clue posted:The toal stuff? Orthogonal wincon for Toal?
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Tired Moritz posted:Aaah I wish I could 1v1 RWC right now Given this how did you just a bit ago forget that you used up your duel. What’s going on
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Jul 3, 2023 01:35
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I thought challenges were daily. If I 1v1 I thought I would die 
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Jul 3, 2023 01:47
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I think we should figure out who is cruel enough to kill Maugrim.
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Jul 3, 2023 10:53
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@rwc what does the flowers do
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Jul 3, 2023 13:28
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Nevermind, I reread. The flowers did nothing btw
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Jul 3, 2023 13:31
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After sleeping on it and doing some more thinking, I think there are some suspicion points for each of you. With RWC it's mainly crab's willingness to be voted d2, a little chilling knowing and having seen the effects of Josef's ability. With TM it's the lack of voting history, and not having hammered Josef d3, but for that particular point the same could be said about snooze only difference being she didn't post during that timeframe. In TM's favor, came out immediately with the dayvig, and it seems believable to have wanted to use it in concern of a n1 death. Josef was also in the big reads post doing some distancing and only claimed a lean town later on the basis of the messenger's mark nonsense. It's nothing solid but it makes me feel like they aren't connected. That leaves me with snooze cruise more or less by process of elimination, but there's also this that kinda adds to it for me: Snooze Cruise posted:i was doing a bit of a fib earlier, i can still win with town, its just that if i got named number 1 beatuy in a duel i could have absconded the game and left you three to handle this. That attitude is consistent but only feels like it was played up as like a wincon starting from day 3. Also consider: This is the duel between TM and Snooze from earlier in the game. Nothing in there about a contest of beauty, and snooze even won! It's also notable that the tone and style of the flavor changed when Shell took over the mod duties (speaking of deadmeat I hope you're doing okay). I think Snooze is just cornered and saw an opportunity to maybe make us overthink this. ##vote snooze cruise That's where I stand. Whoever wins, it's been a good game everyone.
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Votecount for Day 4  Snooze Cruise (1): Nep-Nep Not Voting (3): Rhymes With Clue, Snooze Cruise, Tired MoritzWith 4 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 04th, 2023 at 4 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 1 day, 4 hours.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:07
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I would vote snooze. I'm always sussed by anyone that won't pr claim early
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Jul 3, 2023 17:46
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Which one doesn't belong? I'm here in a game with a Tired, a Snooze, and a Nap. Oh wait, no--a Nep. Whew! I'm going by the voting record, which indicates to me that Snooze has some kind of knowledge about who's scum. Jumping on the hambeet vote with Josef when it's clear to most of the thread that hambeet is going down, at a time when scum knew hambeet wasn't really (and I apologize if this isn't what happened, it's what it looks like reading back), and then placing an early vote on Josef and retracting it and then very carefully NOT hammering as they knew what would happen to someone who hammered. TM of course has no voting record but has claimed to be a dayvig and was, in fact. Seems like along with all the other powers of scum, a dayvig would just be too much. Nep has claimed the same or a similar power to the insta-bomb, which is a little suspicious. But Nep has been probing, solving, and explaining her thinking throughout the game and Snooze has been cruising. So if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but ##vote Snooze
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Nep-Nep posted:After sleeping on it and doing some more thinking, I think there are some suspicion points for each of you. With RWC it's mainly crab's willingness to be voted d2, a little chilling knowing and having seen the effects of Josef's ability. With TM it's the lack of voting history, and not having hammered Josef d3, but for that particular point the same could be said about snooze only difference being she didn't post during that timeframe. ...because the number one beatuy has to die first, like i said earlier
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rhymes consiently making the worst posts i ever read in my life and nep nep just looking at me and TM only is one of the most frustrating things i have experienced in a game of mafia, i feel like i am being gaslit
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Jul 3, 2023 19:05
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Well if that was true, then what if punkreas visited you n1? It'd be impossible for you to achieve your condition and you'd have no agency in the matter even without dying.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:05
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like we had a whole loving convo about whether or not rhymes thinks the masonry is fake or not and they ignored it and didn't said either way lol
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Nep-Nep posted:Well if that was true, then what if punkreas visited you n1? It'd be impossible for you to achieve your condition and you'd have no agency in the matter even without dying. yes that literally happens in a lot of setups with crazy roles lol, i guess my only chance in that scenario is killing punk in a duel
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Jul 3, 2023 19:07
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unvote right now until rhymes answers whether or not the masonry is fake, i can't believe i am going have to drag the town to victory in this game
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Jul 3, 2023 19:08
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like a player geniuely got themselves trap in one of those weird bits of logic that mafia players get overly obsessed with but are rarely actually found in a game and we are just choosing to ignore it for some reason
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Jul 3, 2023 19:15
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##unvote I'll at least listen, there's no harm in continuing discussion
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Jul 3, 2023 19:18
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I don't know if the masonry is fake. Josef claimed it, his flip said nothing about it, and seems to me that Snooze knows way too much about it. Snooze, are you claiming that you are also in this masonry? The part I'm pretty solid on was my reply to Maugrim about Toalpaz (who, the moderator said early on, is not in the game) having an "orthogonal" win condition. That was what Snooze quoted. To me "orthogonal" means "contrary, and possibly harmful, to the rest of their team" whether that team is town or scum, so it's impossible for someone participating outside of the game thread, like unspoiled observers, to have one. Maybe this is just my opinion. Maybe the unspoiled observers can take the win from players who are actually playing. But that seems pretty suspect to me. I can't really see myself voting for anyone else. If it's Nep I have been fooled. Snooze is working really hard to get ME out of here and I know I'm town so naturally I find that suspicious.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:18
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I don't know if the masonry is fake. Josef claimed it, his flip said nothing about it, and seems to me that Snooze knows way too much about it. Snooze, are you claiming that you are also in this masonry? No your reply quoting maugrim saying orthogonal condition, and THEN quoting the mod that they are not in the game. This could only be read as you thinking the masonry is fake, and now that you are caught you are trying to rewrite history.
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also seriously look at this stuff...Rhymes With Clue posted:Snooze, are you claiming that you are also in this masonry? like come on...
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Jul 3, 2023 19:23
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How is RWC caught exactly? Has the masonry been proven to exist?
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Jul 3, 2023 19:24
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Nep-Nep posted:How is RWC caught exactly? Has the masonry been proven to exist? That isn't my point, my point is that RWC has repeatedly presented themselves as a player who thinks it does not exist, so when they post this: Rhymes With Clue posted:...is from the game that Toalpaz is not in, and it seems like Snooze is very familiar with what Josef is hearing from toalpaz in the scum chat. Or what Josef says he's learning in scum chat. Or at any rate stuff said elswhere other than the game thread. its total nonsense that does not make sense.
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Like the most likely scenario I see looking at all of this is that RWC knows the masonry does exist lmao. Why else jump on me out of nowhere like that despite presenting themselves as someone who doesn't believe in it, and also insisting I had inside information unless they actually had the inside information my random guesses happen to hit upon stuff said previously.
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Snooze Cruise posted:Like the most likely scenario I see looking at all of this is that RWC knows the masonry does exist lmao. Why else jump on me out of nowhere like that despite presenting themselves as someone who doesn't believe in it, and also insisting I had inside information unless they actually had the inside information my random guesses happen to hit upon stuff said previously. I am not in this masonry. How the ,hell would I know whether it exists?
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Jul 3, 2023 19:30
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Tell me a world where a town player makes a post like that? What perspective are they coming from? I keep trying to fathom it and come up with nothing.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I am not in this masonry. How the ,hell would I know whether it exists? I MEAN COME ON JUST LOOK AT THIS LMAO like this is the height of hypocrisy as i repeatedly explained to rhymes i don't need to be in the masonry to present theoretical about it lol
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Jul 3, 2023 19:31
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Snooze fighting like mad to win the game for scum and characterizing my posts as the worst they've ever seen? I feel like I've been pretty reasonable. If you agree with Snooze that my posts are terrible and I must be scum just vote me (like Snooze is NOT) and town goes down. I've been here before. The people who say my posts are dogshit have turned out to be scum.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:33
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Snooze fighting like mad to win the game for scum and characterizing my posts as the worst they've ever seen? oh my god this is one of the most beautiful arguments I have ever seen
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Nep nep the only reason why you are actually considering this is because you know in your heart of hearts I have Rhymes loving dead to rights. There is all this circumstantial stuff at the periphery you are just over thinking, and you said so yourself! So simplify it, RWC has been posting like scum. They are floundering, its ridiculous.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:36
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Also where are you TM? TM buddy please read the thread and see I am right so we can win this game lol.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:38
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There is one scum left. That player did the kill last night. I was delivering flowers.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:39
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Fragrant, NON-LETHAL flowers.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:There is one scum left. There is on scum left. That player did the kill last night. I was carrying a printer.
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I don't know why the rest of you play mafia but I play it for moments like this. When everyone has gotten stuck going with the flow and town is about to sleep walk themselves to a loss. NOT I play it for what I am doing now. When you just have a feeling, a truth, that speaks to you and you know it in your hearts of hearts. And you have to fight for it and make others see it, because that is your only chance at winning. I have Rhymes beat. They don't have any bit of truth to latch onto. They are without mast just following the flow, incapable of fighting against the current like I am doing. Trust me. We got this one in the bag.
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I play mafia because they stopped making new ace attorney and danganronpa games that’s why I always try to be a witness with a wacky name
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Nep-Nep posted:I play mafia because they stopped making new ace attorney and danganronpa games that’s why I always try to be a witness with a wacky name then you should know that the song playing as i post... is this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxnvGDK0WGM
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Snooze Cruise posted:There is on scum left. Sorry for the sidetrack at this moment in time but I couldn't help hearing a movie quote in this. "I carried a watermelon?" Okay back to the game. A player I believe to be scum says he's in a masonry with a player not known to be in the game and I am supposed to believe this? In a mafia game? That player turns out in fact to be scum, which makes it even less believable. I don't think it's at all strange that I would be skeptical. It's a mafia game! I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying I think it's unlikely. I know that unspoiled observers have had parts before but this just seems like too much. But Nep made the point that 3 players who signed up did not get into the game and when 3 players got out, those people did not get slotted in as replacements. So that made me think it might be possible. Snooze, if I'm not the last scum (and I am not), then who else would you look at? I'll go first here, if it's not Snooze then my next thought would be Nep. Snooze has done nothing, not a single thing, to convince me they're town. Nep has.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Sorry for the sidetrack at this moment in time but I couldn't help hearing a movie quote in this. "I carried a watermelon?" i guess i would look at nep because i think its bizzare that they weren't considering you at all despite how you are posting anyway i am a dummy and just realize i haven't been voting for you lol ##vote rhymes
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