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Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy
My Japanwse copy of Rain Code just unlocked on my Switch so see y'all in a while

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Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
It's hard to say, I think the final scum after Salads Cooper is maybe TPC? It's kinda has to be TPC or Potato Salad, and TPC/salad don't seem to interact much rereading post histories.

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Potato Salad posted:

I followed Chores and he didn't go anywhere. He does, however, have a tobacco habit. Whoever got him started decades ago is the poisoner.
##vote saladscooper

:hmmyes:

You've done good work Potato. I already made a mistake not trusting Chores and I don't intend to make that mistake again with you

##vote saladscooper

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Somberbrero posted:

It's hard to say, I think the final scum after Salads Cooper is maybe TPC? It's kinda has to be TPC or Potato Salad, and TPC/salad don't seem to interact much rereading post histories.

Why potato salad? Doesn't Sandwolf's flip/support of Potato clear them somewhat? Obviously I don't want to take anything for granted but I just don't get strong scum vibes

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

I did initially when we had that scrap over "confirmed town" stuff but sand wolf's death and nailing Toal makes me feel more trusting.

Also, if scum was planning to let one of their buddies play scumhunter, do we think that they would have the newest player take that role? Maybe so people would hesitate to suspect them, but it seems risky to put so much pressure on a new player when you have a small team

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
To be clear, we snooped salad and he is a poisoner.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Why potato salad? Doesn't Sandwolf's flip/support of Potato clear them somewhat? Obviously I don't want to take anything for granted but I just don't get strong scum vibes

Yep you're right, I forgot. My bad!

Not voting these people:
Potato Salad
Moritz
Hal
Idle

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
Oh it's probably squiggly actually, I forgot they were alive.

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Somberbrero posted:

Oh it's probably squiggly actually, I forgot they were alive.

Lol

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
##vote saladscooper

I've never been more wrong about an entire game

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Somberbrero posted:

To be clear, we snooped salad and he is a poisoner.

Yeah it's weird flavor, but I am a town poisoner

I've been thinking of it like a delayed vig. Someone keeps roleblocking me tho.

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019
Like come on, you seriously think chores's role would be in the game if there weren't serious misdirection around it? Town poisoner is a great way to fool everyone lol

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

saladscooper posted:

Like come on, you seriously think chores's role would be in the game if there weren't serious misdirection around it? Town poisoner is a great way to fool everyone lol

Hmm. That is a good point...

##unvote for now so we can hash things out

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


if you're a town poisoner, how come you haven't been killing suspected scum?

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

In all fairness there was a good share of suspicion/votes on chores day 2 before people switched over to Cube. Plus the desire to flip chores to verify the claim

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 2

got some chores tonight (0): Tired Moritz, Tea Party Crasher, Tea Party Crasher, JosefStalinator, CubicalSucrose, Johnny Keats, Tea Party Crasher, Potato Salad, Tired Moritz, Johnny Keats, Tea Party Crasher, Potato Salad, JosefStalinator, CubicalSucrose

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Did you poison chores for that reason Saladscooper?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

I jailed Keats last night so if there was supposed to be a scum kill it was either done by Keats or done to Keats most likely

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

saladscooper posted:

Yeah it's weird flavor, but I am a town poisoner

I've been thinking of it like a delayed vig. Someone keeps roleblocking me tho.

I jailed you N2 so is your poison fast acting or super slow acting

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

So in theory it would be a bad idea for a scum poisoner, who would know that Chores' read of roles was accurate, to kill him and verify the veracity of his claims

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Town poisoner and scum jailor would be one hell of a twist

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Tea Party Crasher posted:

So in theory it would be a bad idea for a scum poisoner, who would know that Chores' read of roles was accurate, to kill him and verify the veracity of his claims

Yeah, I really need to sit on this
##unvote

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
I'm not buying a Town Poisoner any day of the week.

Toal was part of the snoop investigation on salad night two, scum obviously knew it was going to happen and it mysteriously failed. Then with Toal gone it succeeds and oops, we found out salad is killing people.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
Me as a mod writing a role that can destroy the scum team unopposed: "hmmm yes okay good."

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Somberbrero posted:

I'm not buying a Town Poisoner any day of the week.

Toal was part of the snoop investigation on salad night two, scum obviously knew it was going to happen and it mysteriously failed. Then with Toal gone it succeeds and oops, we found out salad is killing people.

:hmmyes:

Also a good point.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


The fact that snooping Saladscooper failed night 2 when the scum still had Toal watching them but it failed night 3 is a pretty strong circumstance.

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

I'm back on the ##vote saladscooper train

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Somberbrero posted:

Me as a mod writing a role that can destroy the scum team unopposed: "hmmm yes okay good."

To be fair, friendly fire probably counterbalances it.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Potato Salad posted:

The fact that snooping Saladscooper failed night 2 when the scum still had Toal watching them but it WORKED night 3 is a pretty strong circumstance.

Edit, god help me

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer
One concern - my role kinda changed at one point in the game, beginning as one traditionally scummy role and transitioning to a helpful town role. I don't know if that effects snooping or chores initial predictions.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


JosefStalinator posted:

One concern - my role kinda changed at one point in the game, beginning as one traditionally scummy role and transitioning to a helpful town role. I don't know if that effects snooping or chores initial predictions.

why hold it close to the chest, then

with two dead scum we're pretty far into the game

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

Potato Salad posted:

why hold it close to the chest, then

with two dead scum we're pretty far into the game

My old job was cleaner - I had to clean three players in order to upgrade to my beneficial role. This is why I wanted to learn more about Keats being watched - he definitely was visited night 1.

N1: Cleaned Keats
N2: Cleaned Idle
N3: Cleaned Hal

I picked players who pinged me as townies to minimize the likelihood I'd screw up an investigation.

I'm hesitant to reveal my role now for fear it'll get me killed by scum.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

Potato Salad posted:

To be fair, friendly fire probably counterbalances it.

In theory, but to put on my mod hat you can't guarantee that. Every killing action introduces variance and you are compelled to ask yourself 'what if the worst outcome happens?'

If salads were a vigilante with a poison twist, that would be somewhat more plausible. However, you don't see Town Roles with repeatable killing actions because they can win the game on their own. Sure, they could die night one or kill the doc immediately, but they could also give the win to a Town that never lunched scum.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

JosefStalinator posted:

My old job was cleaner - I had to clean three players in order to upgrade to my beneficial role. This is why I wanted to learn more about Keats being watched - he definitely was visited night 1.

N1: Cleaned Keats
N2: Cleaned Idle
N3: Cleaned Hal

I picked players who pinged me as townies to minimize the likelihood I'd screw up an investigation.

I'm hesitant to reveal my role now for fear it'll get me killed by scum.

dis guy scum

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Somberbrero posted:

dis guy scum

:agreed:

I got this vibe while rereading the previous days posts and seeing he voted for Potato.

(In all fairness I did too but hey you already think I'm scum so:shrug:)

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

JosefStalinator posted:


I'm hesitant to reveal my role now for fear it'll get me killed by scum.

Surely saying this much would be enough to get you killed anyway right?

This feels more to me like "ooo town I'm real important but I can't say how"

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

Tea Party Crasher posted:

:agreed:

I got this vibe while rereading the previous days posts and seeing he voted for Potato.

(In all fairness I did too but hey you already think I'm scum so:shrug:)

I don't especially think you're scum now, I was just not thinking it through :shobon:

Votables in order of most preferred to least
Saladscooper
Stalin
Squiggly
(this space left empty)
TPC

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.





Grimey Drawer

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Surely saying this much would be enough to get you killed anyway right?

This feels more to me like "ooo town I'm real important but I can't say how"

I'm a cop now, for what it's worth.

I'm not scum - and I still am curious why people think Keats was unvisited night 1 when I did, but the hammer happened too fast for me to get a clarification on it.

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

JosefStalinator posted:

##vote potato salad

Cube still wins the tie presumably between him and Keats, salad still pinging scummier than kests or cube to me

Could've been a move to get rid of someone that could track his night movements

:thunkher:

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Could've been a move to get rid of someone that could track his night movements

:thunkher:

Mafia edit, potato doesn't track I think

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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


I am the only remaining Gossip.

The scum already know this, and I've been saying this since day 2.

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