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Baronash posted:What a mindbending amount of privilege to contain in a handful of sentences. The average price of a new car is almost $50k. I get it, most people don't drive new cars but A LOT of people do, enough that it is a significant US industry of national importance. Ok Comboomer posted:And a lot of “middle class” people are financing their $999 and $1999 full living room or master bedroom sets from Bob’s Discount Furniture or Raymour & Flanagan People throw middle class around like it has a common meaning to people and that common meaning must include people making like $40k a year. If it is just an amazing product, I promise you there is an addressable market in the US at that price. I am far from convinced that it is so amazing that it justifies the cost but there are a shitload of people wearing $800 Apple Watch Ultras with $1100 iPhone Pros. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/res...%20%2469%2C717. you need like $150,000 – $160,000 each year for a $500,000 mortgage. childcare costs 18% of the median household income for a family with children under 6 in WA
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So one thing I'm wondering is if the technology is there to create these mixed reality glasses that automagically compensate for myopia, so that Rx lenses or glasses/contact lenses aren't needed? I'm thinking about how when I get my eyes checked, I put my face on the thing and at first the image is blurry but then it measures some poo poo and adjusts some thing and bam I can see the image of the house in 20/20. Could future mixed reality headsets make use of this tech somehow so that I can just roll out of bed and put it on and viola?
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For this to sell at that price it would need to legitimately be the holodeck with full-body force feedback indecipherable from actual reality, and a pack-in voucher for your first three pornstar DLC expansion packs. Also lol at “WELL ACKSHULLY, $3500 FOR A GADGET ISN’T THAT MUCH MONEY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE PRICES OF CARS AND TEXAS LUXURY CONDOS *scoffs in trust fund*”
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Branch Nvidian posted:If this wasn’t so incredibly out of the affordability range of one of my friends that is like 85% home-bound, this would be unironically awesome for him. It’s all the stuff he wishes the Oculus Quest was, but also when you’re largely bedridden it’s hard to make the money necessary to afford $3500 electronic gadgets. Yeah this would be perfect for my dad who is disabled and stays at home. He loves tech, and consumes a ton of media. We'll wait for the non-Pro version in a year or two and probably get one for him for Christmas.
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I was speaking more to the specifics: illcendiary posted:$3499 is like a small sectional and a decent coffee table illcendiary posted:And the price of small, kinda decent furniture, as much as that sucks. All I’m saying is $3500 won’t leave you with much of a living room setup unless you’re okay with a folding chair and a big TV Boris Galerkin posted:https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/res...%20%2469%2C717. Find actual data sources: https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2022/demo/p60-276.html Median in 2021 was $70,784.
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Developer betas should be up, installing iOS, Sonoma, and watchOS and feeling like a lil freak for putting these things on my daily hardware 
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It starts at 3500. So that means the price goes up. It isn't going to even come with a battery for 3500. They are obviously going to come out with a non pro version, so I was watching it again to see what they could cut out to make it cheaper. The first thing to go is the front facing eyeball screen. Other than looking creepy, it serves no purpose. They could remove the audio and make it use headphones. The hand control cameras could go and they could sub in a mouse/keyboard/gamepad. I think I am in the same boat as a lot of people. I don't mind what this device is, but nothing they showed me said it is something that is needed. They needed to come out swinging with games, apps, and real world uses. Nobody is going to wear this around the house while they do day to day stuff and they use it when a face time call hits. They will plan on a FaceTime call and put it on. The stuff walking around the house doing normal things just blew my mind. Who did they talk to that said they would do this?
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Skeezy posted:Developer betas should be up, installing iOS, Sonoma, and watchOS and feeling like a lil freak for putting these things on my daily hardware I've been doing this since like iOS 4 and it's only bitten me in the rear end a couple times. Good luck!
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bloodysabbath posted:For this to sell at that price it would need to legitimately be the holodeck with full-body force feedback indecipherable from actual reality, and a pack-in voucher for your first three pornstar DLC expansion packs. The median home price in Dallas is $413K, I assure you plenty of people can afford $3,499 for an amazing Apple gadget, even if you think people with $400k houses are "rich" and not "middle class". Three Olives fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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I've called a lot of apple products stupid and bad and ended up liking them but the goggles are very dumb and I will never own a pair. MBA15 is pretty nice though!
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Matt Zerella posted:I've called a lot of apple products stupid and bad and ended up liking them but the goggles are very dumb and I will never own a pair. It’s quite nice, unfortunately I’m destitute from buying my Texas luxury condo and overpriced sofa and as such, I cannot afford it
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Matt Zerella posted:I've called a lot of apple products stupid and bad and ended up liking them but the goggles are very dumb and I will never own a pair. No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
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illcendiary posted:It’s quite nice, unfortunately I’m destitute from buying my Texas luxury condo and overpriced sofa and as such, I cannot afford it Staring at my smart toaster and apple goggles like King Solomon and sweating profusely.
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The inflation adjusted price of the first iPod was $850 and all it did was play music.
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The iPod loving ruled, it was better than anything out on the market like those gigantic Creative hard drives. These tethered goggles serve zero loving purpose other than to bring us closer to IRL Ready Player One and it loving stinks.
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In 2001 I reeeeeeally wanted to play music. In 2023 I am not super enthused about pawing at the air to do my forums scrolling and typing out posts on an air keyboard
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Imagine how much more annoying it’ll be to type “ducking” when you’re pawing at air on a $3500 device
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Matt Zerella posted:MBA15 is pretty nice though! Now to break the hearts of executives that it "only supports one monitor".
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incoherent posted:Now to break the hearts of executives that it "only supports one monitor". Oh my GOD 
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Matt Zerella posted:The iPod loving ruled, it was better than anything out on the market like those gigantic Creative hard drives. please do not speak ill of the Creative Nomad Jukebox, this baby got me through grade 11  (actual size)
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i don't care if this thing is the greatest computing/gaming experience ever made. i cannot for the life of me understand how anyone would even pay $3.49 to embarrass themselves so badly wearing one. not even going to get into the merits or demerits of the ar/vr. i am simply talking about the visual audacity of these. you can argue there're a lot of fashion items as bad or worse, but at least the wearer can argue artistic integrity or look or something. these do not allow you to do that. these are just violently out-of-place and seemingly useless on top of that. i guess it is another object i might see in public that i can use to tell if someone is worthwhile.
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Three Olives posted:The median home price in Dallas is $413K, I assure you plenty of people can afford $3,499 for an amazing Apple gadget, even if you think people with $400k houses are "rich" and not "middle class". guess what, dipshit, most of the people living in $400k homes in the United States are financing them with heretofore-unseen levels of lifetime debt, while amassing no real savings and living what amounts to a paycheck to paycheck existence, where more than a few weeks of unemployment would entirely ruin them and their families. When I say “middle class” and use the scare quotes, I mean “middle class” with the scare quotes, which is what the overwhelming majority of “middle class” people in this country are. It’s married school psychologists making a combined $115k annual income and struggling to save for their three kids’ college educations along with $60k in car loans, $100k in student debt, and a mortgage on a $450k house. I’m not talking about the pair of DINK trust fund gays who clear $320k annual combined and share a car and can comfortably make all of the payments on their $200k two bedroom luxury condo with ease while still dropping $10k on a lavish Tuscan cruise vacation for Two every single year
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Getting a lot of iPhone 2007 (too expensive, AT&T only) and Apple Watch 2015 vibes here. I too think the Vision Pro is a solution in search of a problem and likely doesn't have a market at the moment. I am also pretty certain we will all own one (or some version of this) in 5 - 7 years.
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Sock The Great posted:Getting a lot of iPhone 2007 (too expensive, AT&T only) and Apple Watch 2015 vibes here. I too think the Vision Pro is a solution in search of a problem and likely doesn't have a market at the moment. no no, this looks waaay more like the response the iPad launch got
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goons savaged the iPad launch people were like “I’m gonna beat up anybody who has one of these”
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Ok Comboomer posted:no no, this looks waaay more like the response the iPad launch got It's just a big phone!
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Sock The Great posted:I am also pretty certain we will all own one (or some version of this) in 5 - 7 years. Been saying this about the HomePod
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Ok Comboomer posted:guess what, dipshit, most of the people living in $400k homes in the United States are financing them with heretofore-unseen levels of lifetime debt, while amassing no real savings and living what amounts to a paycheck to paycheck existence, where more than a few weeks of unemployment would entirely ruin them and their families. It’s marketed to those who buy touchscreen refrigerators, washers/dryers, toasters, microwaves, that they use after coming home in their Tesla and sitting across from their Apple Pro Display XDR and decked-out Mac Studio that they use to make memes and really nice iMovies with.
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mawarannahr posted:Been saying this about the HomePod The HomePod was a legitimate failure, at least when grading on a curve of Apple hardware is expected to perform. However, the HomePod was extremely late to the market compared to the Amazon Echo and has an objectively worse virtual assistant. Vision Pro is also late to the party against Meta, but with a price tag 3.5x that of the Meta Quest Pro it's clearly in a different class hardware wise.
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Sock The Great posted:Getting a lot of iPhone 2007 (too expensive, AT&T only) and Apple Watch 2015 vibes here. I too think the Vision Pro is a solution in search of a problem and likely doesn't have a market at the moment. The thing with the iPhone, iPad, watch, and many other product launches is it was clear they were making the best in class product, and some scoffed at pricing. This is being sold as “what if you did everything on a tv or computer happened on a headset” without offering any truly new or exciting experiences. They didn’t show anything no one was thinking of or anyone thought was impossible. And maybe it’s just an immature launch because of Cook, but the software looks like a OSX hack or third party program.
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Ok Comboomer posted:DINK trust fund gays
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Sock The Great posted:It's just a big phone! I remember one goon was like “the only person who’s allowed to use one of these is David Byrne, preferably while on a bike” and I always thought that was funny
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i can get you a minion costume for halloween for slightly less than 3499 just sayin
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badjohny posted:It starts at 3500. So that means the price goes up. It isn't going to even come with a battery for 3500. I just hope if they do a non-Pro version I'll still be able to do professional things like.. -rewatches video- stand at my standing desk, review my todo list and notes, use Safari, write an email and listen to music.
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Three Olives posted:The median home price in Dallas is $413K, I assure you plenty of people can afford $3,499 for an amazing Apple gadget, even if you think people with $400k houses are "rich" and not "middle class". Another poster put it a lot better than I can, but people with 400k+ houses either are rich or are just scraping by on those payments because hey, gotta live somewhere. I think you may just have quite a skewed notion of what classifies as middle class. The members of your bougie rear end HOA aren’t going to be a representative sample my guy.
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Three Olives posted:The median home price in Dallas is $413K, I assure you plenty of people can afford $3,499 for an amazing Apple gadget, even if you think people with $400k houses are "rich" and not "middle class". You can't post on your main if you want people to take anything you say about money seriously
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For real tho, saying “$400k average home prices in my neighborhood means that $3500 for a headset is fine for lots of middle class people” is the most “I know nothing about how real estate is financed in this country, or how the middle class is defined and lives, yet I post” post
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Ok Comboomer posted:For real tho, saying “$400k average home prices in my neighborhood means that $3500 for a headset is fine for lots of middle class people” is the most “I know nothing about how real estate is financed in this country, or how the middle class is defined and lives, yet I post” post IYG has no mods and I hate to backseat mod, but the best thing to do is not give TO any attention.
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Jose Oquendo posted:IYG has no mods and I hate to backseat mod, but the best thing to do is not give TO any attention. Maybe it’s time to close the thread. We got what we came here with the funny googles and the (imo) actually decent iOS 17
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